Meccanical;n10616492 said:
CDPR has never made the same game twice, even within the same series.
I don't think they know how and I don't expect them to start now.
Agreed. I'll be playing Devil's advocate below but I fully expect CDPR to innovate in a major, impressive way.
Sardukhar;n10613772 said:
Totally disagree. I would look forward to a Witcher 3 style Cyberpunk. Absolutely. Be a lot of fun. So absolutely to consider.
I'd -prefer- something of a deeper RPG nature, but I'd be happy with the limited Witcher-style if CDPR gave me a fun game with a great story and a protagonist to sink my teeth into.
I doubt that's gonna happen, though. I think actual RPG mechanics - speech, choices, customization - are likely.
This is a perfectly reasonable viewpoint, but I agree with Metal. I have limited time and funds, and I'm going to go out on a limb and say the average working class individual is probably in a similar boat (maybe I'm totally wrong, I don't know). We can't -- at least, I can't -- buy every single new game that comes out. I played and loved the Witcher 3 because it was a significant step forward, it was fresh, it expanded upon past systems.
If CP2077 is just going to be more of the same, except hey-now-its-Cyberpunk-guys, I'll pass. I'll pick up Bannerlord or something instead. New aesthetics and guns ain't gonna be enough for me. I'll need some deeper systems to really get hooked. But, this is just one of those things where you either accept it or you don't, and I choose not to, because CDPR has the funds, the expertise (Pondsmith and a very talented team of devs) and -- now -- the experience with open world RPGs to pull it off.
If they choose to be stagnant, I'll be disappointed and definitely won't be buying, but also understanding. Game dev is risky. KCD, for example, took a huge risk and could have failed miserably. CDPR wouldn't be the devil incarnate for going a similar route to other studios.
With all of that said... I do think CDPR will at least check off the major boxes for me with 2077. At least enough that I'll pre-order it and probably buy the collector's edition and certainly any DLC/expansions.
Really, all I'm looking for here is...
- Character creation.
- Roles/classes in some form. It's OK if they aren't determined at the start, and are rather something you "grow into" or specialize into later.
- Some level of skill-based gameplay (character skills), more than TW3.
... annnnd that's about it. I don't think these are huge asks, and they'll be enough to guarantee my business, but they are incompatible with a lot of design philosophies ( Fixed protagonist), so we'll see.
metalmaniac21;n10614972 said:
The problem is, the more people go "be happy" with current twitcher state of affairs, the less reason for CDPR to go out and make different games, we sure don't want another pair of nuTES/ nuFallout of samey games, do we? And from my perspective, if the game won't deliver on gameplay, there won't much reason to play CP2077, let's play would do just fine. That means no buy.
Oh, right, multiplayer also exists.
Yeah. Lots of great games out there, all potentially deserving of one's hard-earned $. Nobody should get a free pass just because we like them. But, some people really are happy with the Call of Duty model, and that's perfectly fine. Just different audiences.
And I don't think multiplayer is the defining point, but it's definitely a mark in the "uh oh" column for me. I really hope it doesn't dominate the experience and remains a small, side portion that doesn't pull many resources from the main game's development.
sv3672;n10612442 said:
How about something like for example in Kingdom Come: Deliverance, where you play as a guy named Henry with some background story? But there is a decent amount of freedom at the gameplay level.
There will obviously be some level of customization, at least when it comes to the appearance of the character, even The Witcher 3 allows for different hair and beard styles, armor dyes, and other features that let the player's Geralt look unique. And of course things like character skills (however they are implemented) and different story branches are also basically a given, so Cyberpunk's roles can appear at least in those. Beyond that, no one knows what we will get, it could be anything up to an Elder Scrolls like "be anyone you want" character.
Not really interested in that, primarily because I'd like to play as either a female or male character during different playthroughs - especially in the world of Cyberpunk. But this is one of the better options for handling a fixed protagonist, so I'm not completely opposed to it (I loved KCD).