With CDPR we can relax about the whole DLC thing, their policy is to give it away for free as a form of supporting the game
With CDPR we can relax about the whole DLC thing, their policy is to give it away for free as a form of supporting the game
Wow.... yeah that is a policy I can get behind.. though for larger DLC, such as extra missions or whatever, I have no problems paying for it... but I can see now why their fanbase is so loyal.
So far they included everything as free updates or by releasing Enhanced Edition with tons of new content for free.
Dam.... that is awesome... they are awesome...
And while Fantasy is not my thing, plus I play on Playstation... I checked out some youtube vids on Wicher and Witcher 2. The graphics were impressive. I still want more of an open world, and obviously want vehicles... but if they can pull that off with their first project, I have faith they can make these things happen, or at least they seem capable of far more than I was being to worry they may be capable of... seriously I was starting to worry the game was really going to be limited...glad to see that's not necessarily the case.
Like I said, if United Front can go from Modnation racers and little big planet racing to Sleeping dogs... then I am not too worried about CDPR.
They WERE the people that made True Crime, after allLike I said, if United Front can go from Modnation racers and little big planet racing to Sleeping dogs... then I am not too worried about CDPR.
Well.... kinda....They WERE the people that made True Crime, after all
As in some of the people that work at United Front also used to work at Luxoflux, as well as Rockstar, Volition, EA Blackbox...
But CDPR is actively recruiting right ow as well. So we will see where the wind takes this title...
BTW guys, the only info about the sandbox part that we truly have is this quote:
I think that the quote is quite interesting, because it is NOT speculation and it shows the CDPR's approach to the open world.
from this article.
I think that the quote is quite interesting, because it is NOT speculation and it shows the CDPR's approach to the open world.
It definitely lends credence to them taking the GTA type approach, which makes me very very happy and optimistic...
I don't really know what to take from that quote. On the other hand they say it'll be an open world with no artificial roadblocks; then on the other hand I can also read an implication to "replace" the said roadblocks with something less artificial, and even further, right at the beginning of the quote Adam says "BOTH the city and the gameworld will be vast".
I really don't know how to interpret that the way that would give me a clear vision of the intention.
The first thing that came to my mind (intuitively, I didn't figure it out by putting pieces together) was that the "gameworld" is used to mean the areas where you do your hands-on stuff, and the "city" is the map, and you travel in the city between these "gameworld" areas through a GTA (1 and 2) style "minigame" of sorts style car driving and then disembark at the destination (at your will).
Now, I'm pretty sure that's not what he meant, but it - imo - would fit the concept given in the first sentence (vast "playable" areas in an also vast "city"), and basically the whole quote. It'd be an open world, it could allow for quite vast distances between locations giving the "big city" feeling... and now that I think of it, I think I'd probably like it that way too.
Bah. I shouldn't think of these things from my own perspective. Only leads to disappointments.
I really don't know how to interpret that the way that would give me a clear vision of the intention.
The first thing that came to my mind (intuitively, I didn't figure it out by putting pieces together) was that the "gameworld" is used to mean the areas where you do your hands-on stuff, and the "city" is the map, and you travel in the city between these "gameworld" areas through a GTA (1 and 2) style "minigame" of sorts style car driving and then disembark at the destination (at your will).
Now, I'm pretty sure that's not what he meant, but it - imo - would fit the concept given in the first sentence (vast "playable" areas in an also vast "city"), and basically the whole quote. It'd be an open world, it could allow for quite vast distances between locations giving the "big city" feeling... and now that I think of it, I think I'd probably like it that way too.
Bah. I shouldn't think of these things from my own perspective. Only leads to disappointments.
Roadblocks will probably be present in some form (the world will not be unlimited, after all), but they want to make them more natural, I think. You know these situations when suddenly the entrance is closed for the duration of the battle for no reason besides the pure gameplay one or when every potential alternative route out of a district is blocked by conventienly placed rubble? I think that they want to avoid this.
On the DLC: I remember when they were boxed, came with way more content and added to the game instead of unlocking stuff already on the game. Also known as Expansion Packs, something only a few Dev's still do, like Blizzard. And with the godly amount o' source books for Cyberpunk, little DLC packets are just not gonna cut it in my eyes.
Now for that quote and the words within. He said GTA, I point to San Andreas(again). Large cities, Large game world for it's time. Something more modern, look at Just Cause 2, XBOX HUEG game world some big cities and small towns, villages, harbors, military bases of all sizes and styles. I personally don't think there should be roadblocks of any kind, let the player run off from the mission if he wants. Like if it's a mission to guard some proto-type weapon/armor/cyber-ware, let the player grab it and run like hell with it. I've only seen that happen in one game, the first Armored Core way back on the PS1. Where you were asked to guard a proto-type radar but if you wanted you could take it for yourself.
Though of course there would be world roadblocks keeping you in the game world, like the giant oceans that surrounded the islands in GTA3 and Vice City. In San Andreas they had a mountain range and oceans as roadblocks. RDR had the same thing I believe but also had the more dangerous predators hanging around the edges of the map waiting to pounce on any one fool hardy enough to come snooping around for escape.
Now for that quote and the words within. He said GTA, I point to San Andreas(again). Large cities, Large game world for it's time. Something more modern, look at Just Cause 2, XBOX HUEG game world some big cities and small towns, villages, harbors, military bases of all sizes and styles. I personally don't think there should be roadblocks of any kind, let the player run off from the mission if he wants. Like if it's a mission to guard some proto-type weapon/armor/cyber-ware, let the player grab it and run like hell with it. I've only seen that happen in one game, the first Armored Core way back on the PS1. Where you were asked to guard a proto-type radar but if you wanted you could take it for yourself.
Though of course there would be world roadblocks keeping you in the game world, like the giant oceans that surrounded the islands in GTA3 and Vice City. In San Andreas they had a mountain range and oceans as roadblocks. RDR had the same thing I believe but also had the more dangerous predators hanging around the edges of the map waiting to pounce on any one fool hardy enough to come snooping around for escape.
RE: roadblocks
I'm perfectly fine with having roadblocks in-game, as long as they're logical.
Bridge destroyed and barricaded off while it's under reconstruction? Cool.
Knee high planter in front of a cafe that's impassible? Unacceptable.
I'm perfectly fine with having roadblocks in-game, as long as they're logical.
Bridge destroyed and barricaded off while it's under reconstruction? Cool.
Knee high planter in front of a cafe that's impassible? Unacceptable.
KING: Why have my arnies come to a halt?
General: There is a wooden fence sire....
KING: Wait.... you mean that fence over there... 3 feet high and just simple wooden pickets?
General: Yes sir, thats the one... curse the fiends for such a ploy....
KING: Its 3 feet high and made of thin plywood.... just kick it down...
General: Sire, you don't understand... it's a fence, fences are indestructible...
"KING: Oh for gods sake... just go over it...
General: Sire, we cannot, for no one in the world can jump.... not even you...
KING: Fuck it, lets just go home...
General: We can't do that either sir, we haven't activated the cut scene that will let us... It looks like we are going to have to travel all the way back, unti you find the one bloody pixel in the ffield that will activate the cutscene featuring graphics that make us look almsot like real people, as opposed to the square flat faced freaks of nature we are now...
KING: ................................................................................
*LAUGHS*
Yeah; pretty much ^^ that. XD
That's one of the things that bothered me about the older titles in the Hitman series (not sure if they ever addressed that in the newer titles.) Agent 47 could climb a ladder, but not hop over a 4 ft. railing. wtf.
Yeah; pretty much ^^ that. XD
That's one of the things that bothered me about the older titles in the Hitman series (not sure if they ever addressed that in the newer titles.) Agent 47 could climb a ladder, but not hop over a 4 ft. railing. wtf.
That's what I want, and what I feel is most likely. A collection of large city hubs we are free to explore - certainly larger than anything in TW2 which has a rather intimate feel with its level design. My speculation revolves around the fact they said it would still be a story-driven game. GTA isn't story driven, it's random events driven.
I do like that they are saying city and game world...will we go globe trotting, or have access to areas outside Night City? That might be cool.
I'm really interested in how they are going to do open-world and story-driven. Everything like that to date has been pretty weaksauce. GTA had a story -a nd a rather good one, I've liked them all so far since GTA 2 - but the world wasn't terribly affected.
Skyrim..no. Please, just no. I mean, great world, but dead. And the story was bland. As usual. fun to romp around in, but I didn't feel driven to finish it. And I didn't.
Witcher 1 and 2 - very compelling to play through. So much that 2's sudden end left me empty and weeping. WEEPING. But the world, as Slim says, was rather intimate. I.e. small.
I kind of hope they DON'T come up with an absorbing open world that has a solid story, lots of fun Witcher-style sidequests and some sort of heuristic AI that changes the world as things happen.
Because I value my family and friends and don't want to get trapped in NighT City until I die.
Skyrim..no. Please, just no. I mean, great world, but dead. And the story was bland. As usual. fun to romp around in, but I didn't feel driven to finish it. And I didn't.
Witcher 1 and 2 - very compelling to play through. So much that 2's sudden end left me empty and weeping. WEEPING. But the world, as Slim says, was rather intimate. I.e. small.
I kind of hope they DON'T come up with an absorbing open world that has a solid story, lots of fun Witcher-style sidequests and some sort of heuristic AI that changes the world as things happen.
Because I value my family and friends and don't want to get trapped in NighT City until I die.