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Kalheim

Kalheim

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#241
Dec 20, 2020
Just to be sure : this problem occurs on 1.04 and is not linked to patch 1.05 right?
 
EnnyRose

EnnyRose

Fresh user
#242
Dec 20, 2020
Kalheim said:
Just to be sure : this problem occurs on 1.04 and is not linked to patch 1.05 right?
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This issue is on all versions at the moment.
 
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ignacioantonio04

Fresh user
#243
Dec 20, 2020
Good thing at least some of the people here are not downplaying this issue. When I read this in reddit people are downplaying it again and it's because they said people duplicated the items but we're not. I didn't do any duplication and exploitation. I'm at 5.2mb and I still have tons of things to do. It's not comfortable to play with a timer in my head. Everytime I'm doing a side job and pick some items and craft/upgrades iconics and clothes it grows bigger and bigger.
 
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FlorettaV

FlorettaV

Forum regular
#244
Dec 20, 2020
Kalheim said:
Just to be sure : this problem occurs on 1.04 and is not linked to patch 1.05 right?
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This limit is not linked to patches. This limit even existed in TW3 and is most likely the same.
 
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EnnyRose

EnnyRose

Fresh user
#245
Dec 20, 2020
Had a chat with the modding community.

TLDR: Until fixed, don't craft anything, keep component count low, clean your inventory rigorously. [stash counts too]

According to them Crafting anything causes savegame bloat. Creating consumables impacts the bloat less than creating equippable gear.
Both will increase savegame bloat.
Disassembling seems to only cause bloat by increasing the component count, decreasing component count should fix that. So it ought to be save to disassemble things.

Reducing inventory size (components are part of your inv aswell) can mitigate the issue and reduce your savegame file.
Be sure to use the wait/skip time function in game to reset store inventories/deload dropped items (components can only be sold or used, where using them would increase the "currently" permanent bloat)
In some cases selling items may get them to be stuck permanetly in a buy back inventory.
So be mindful of that too when cleaning inventory.

Anything in stash is also part of your inv, so clean that out too if like me you've got an impressive wardrobe in there.

This may help you reduce your savegame bloat to the point where you can play for a while.
 
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Azulath

Azulath

Fresh user
#246
Dec 20, 2020
Thanks for testing this and thanks for adjusting the settings additionally scherzeking.

Currently, those are the settings we can work with:
Code:
[GameServices]
MaxProfileSize = 4194304
MaxSaveSize = 8388608
MaxSaveSizeTotal = 12582912
MaxSettingsSize = 4194304
SaveCompressedChunkSize = 262144
SaveMaxCompressedChunks = 256
It might we worth having a look at the chunks as well, but I'm not certain what they accomplish. But at this point it is worth a try to go with the following:

Code:
[GameServices]
MaxSaveSize = 16777216
MaxSaveSizeTotal = 20971520
SaveCompressedChunkSize = 524288
SaveMaxCompressedChunks = 512
But to be honest, at this point I'm guessing. Also note that if those values already exist in any ini file, change them there and don't create duplicates. (We don't know how the game reacts.)

Furthermore, it could be that this only affects how savegames are loaded, but not how they are written. We need to find a way to exceed 8192KiB on a save.
 
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Duskguy

Duskguy

Fresh user
#247
Dec 20, 2020
jj284b said:
I think if you dont manufacure thousands things to sell them to get million eddies, or max out Crafting in a hour, like some youtube videos show how, you should be perfectly fine... just play the game, enjoy the story, dont exploit the glitches, they will just destroy your experience anyway... and they will be fixed in january or february in those large patches anyway...
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Comments like this frustrate me.

There are people who have not crafted, but instead hoard items, or pick up anything not nailed down that have 5+mb saves and have not finished the game. This indicates that eventually, everyone trying to 100% the game has the possibly of running into this issue.

And as stated again and again, many of us have not exploited glitches or cheated. We've used game mechanics, that are part of the game, using crafting perks to better advance our gameplay.

And to say the issues will be fixed in January or February... that is a hope. You cant tell people it will be done and not to worry, because we dont know that.

What I'm trying to say is that Everyone has a different playstyle. If you want to play the main story and nothing else, or just a few side missions or whatever, then yes, the game should absolutely be fine. You'll likely never even need to consider this problem. But some people want a 100% completion. Some people want to craft every item. Others want to complete every mission. Explore every nook and cranny of the game.

To simply tell someone this wont affect them so long as they dont craft is a terrible answer. The answer as of now, is as has been stated a few times. Limit your crafting and keep your inventory to a minimum. THEN, you shouldn't have a problem.
 
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Acksios

Acksios

Fresh user
#248
Dec 20, 2020
Azulath said:
Thanks for testing this and thanks for adjusting the settings additionally scherzeking.

Currently, those are the settings we can work with:
Code:
[GameServices]
MaxProfileSize = 4194304
MaxSaveSize = 8388608
MaxSaveSizeTotal = 12582912
MaxSettingsSize = 4194304
SaveCompressedChunkSize = 262144
SaveMaxCompressedChunks = 256
It might we worth having a look at the chunks as well, but I'm not certain what they accomplish. But at this point it is worth a try to go with the following:

Code:
[GameServices]
MaxSaveSize = 16777216
MaxSaveSizeTotal = 20971520
SaveCompressedChunkSize = 524288
SaveMaxCompressedChunks = 512
But to be honest, at this point I'm guessing. Also note that if those values already exist in any ini file, change them there and don't create duplicates. (We don't know how the game reacts.)

Furthermore, it could be that this only affects how savegames are loaded, but not how they are written. We need to find a way to exceed 8192KiB on a save.
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Thanks for this research already Azulath! Hope with the community here we can further pinpoint the root cause and maybe find a temp solution.
 
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Twtv_itsChefu

Twtv_itsChefu

Fresh user
#249
Dec 20, 2020
jj284b said:
I think if you dont manufacure thousands things to sell them to get million eddies, or max out Crafting in a hour, like some youtube videos show how, you should be perfectly fine... just play the game, enjoy the story, dont exploit the glitches, they will just destroy your experience anyway... and they will be fixed in january or february in those large patches anyway...
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even if you don't do that files size goes up no matter what you do not just crafting. Anything you do increases file size crafting is just the cherry on top, if you craft you can instantly get this result. This concerns everyone. Also if you get to 5.5 MB it gives you a black screen before loading the game that lasts 1 minute.
 
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Lantea

Lantea

Senior user
#250
Dec 20, 2020
HeringSwag said:
Does anyone else experience a 1 to 2 second freeze whenever they load a save file? I have over 100+ hours of playtime and my save file is about 5.5mb in size. I am starting to get the feeling that my save file is in the process of becoming corrupt as well. My game has been performing very strangely recently. More flickering than usual. I also encountered places in the game that will 100% crash my game whenever I get near them. Performance seems worse than it used to be.

I hope the 1.05 update is going to fix the memory leak, or whatever it is that is causing the FPS to drop over time. Hopefully better performance overall.
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If you have 100+ save files that is what is causing the the freeze when saving and loading games, at least in my experience; I had over 250 saved games, after I backed them up and deleted 90% of them the freezing during saving/loading stopped and went back to as it was at the start.

Hope this helps.
 
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FlorettaV

FlorettaV

Forum regular
#251
Dec 20, 2020
Okay. I've written a small macro and am now creating tons of items. I specced crafting but never really did any crafting, so have plenty of resources to go on.

By my calculations it's going to take about an hour and fifteen minutes to get close to the 8MB limit. From that point on I'll try a couple of different things.

For science.

I am off doing some real life shit and will sit back down in a bit. Cheers.
 
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BhodiLee

BhodiLee

Fresh user
#252
Dec 20, 2020
at 182 hours and just about to complete Act 2 i hit the max file size and now black screen.

noticed a problem starting right after i patched to 1.05 and also at that time i was 5 cars away from owning them all, as soon as i purchased the last one its where all my problems hot critical mass. I saved, as i do before every gig(at this points i have 3-4 side missions left on map), got killed in a side mission (i play on max difficulty) went to reload..black screen...

I crafted a lot... no exploit just crafting.. clicking buttons is not a big deal as i played a weaponsmith is SWG so i had no need for hacking or duping.
 
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KzarKnuckle

KzarKnuckle

Fresh user
#253
Dec 20, 2020
jj284b said:
I think if you dont manufacure thousands things to sell them to get million eddies, or max out Crafting in a hour, like some youtube videos show how, you should be perfectly fine... just play the game, enjoy the story, dont exploit the glitches, they will just destroy your experience anyway... and they will be fixed in january or february in those large patches anyway...
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Oh, gee, sorry for realizing on my own that crafting was broken in half, and I decided to use it to my advantage, didn't realize that means my save should get corrupted. "Enjoy the story" my butt. No matter how much I like the story, if I find a way to break the game, I'm going to use it.

Anyway,
I'm doing some testing, and trying to figure out why my saves are fluctuating in size. After selling a bunch of excess materials, my file size went down. But selling too many made my file size go back up. Are EDs also affecting file size?
 
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ohmrgraves

ohmrgraves

Fresh user
#254
Dec 20, 2020
is there any fix for this on ps4? literally ALL of my save files are corrupted and i cant acess a single one. even the file that was below 8mb
 
Midnight_Nova

Midnight_Nova

Fresh user
#255
Dec 20, 2020
jj284b said:
I think if you dont manufacure thousands things to sell them to get million eddies, or max out Crafting in a hour, like some youtube videos show how, you should be perfectly fine... just play the game, enjoy the story, dont exploit the glitches, they will just destroy your experience anyway... and they will be fixed in january or february in those large patches anyway...
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I find that this quite undermines the situation. Legit players are having this problem too, and others who are not affected legitimately are worried about it happening to them. And I doubt they cheated.
Best we can do is hoping CDPR includes a fix in the January patch, even if this bug is somehow PC exclusive. And/or people atleast find a temporarily solution in the meantime. Because for all the bugs this game may have left, this is seriously gamebreaking.
 
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jj284b

Forum veteran
#256
Dec 20, 2020
normal players have nothing to worry about under normal circumstances (not abusing crafting bugs).. there are tons of saves on Nexus with all possible endings, maxed out characters etc... so its obvious its possible to finish this game without encountering such a problem... BUT, until CDPR fixes the save issue, its just not recommended to HOARD things... because that will kill your save files...
 
ohmrgraves

ohmrgraves

Fresh user
#257
Dec 20, 2020
my inventory is borderline empty bar like ammo and a spare gun, maybe a spare shirt, so its happening to everyone
 
Bloodartist

Bloodartist

Senior user
#258
Dec 20, 2020
SigilFey said:
First, back up all of your save files by copying them to a folder on your desktop or something. Then, do a verify / repair of the game.
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Well, where are those savefiles?

ps. And just when I was starting to feel actually positive about the game...
pps. Im apparently at 5 MB size. I tried to delete stuff that I don't intend to use even before the news..
 
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ignacioantonio04

Fresh user
#259
Dec 20, 2020
Bloodartist said:
Well, where are those savefiles?

ps. And just when I was starting to feel actually positive about the game...
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For PC
C:\user\%userprofile%\Saved Games\CD Projekt Red\Cyberpunk 2077

Sorry no idea for consoles
 
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Duskguy

Duskguy

Fresh user
#260
Dec 20, 2020
jj284b said:
normal players have nothing to worry about under normal circumstances (not abusing crafting bugs).. there are tons of saves on Nexus with all possible endings, maxed out characters etc... so its obvious its possible to finish this game without encountering such a problem... BUT, until CDPR fixes the save issue, its just not recommended to HOARD things... because that will kill your save files...
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Again and again, you keep telling people to just play normal, do just the story and everything will be fine. Just so long as you dont abuse crafting bugs.

And again... your posts are full of misinformation.

1 - most people are not cheating or abusing "bugs". We have either used game mechanics inherent in the system, or simply crafted items for use or resale. The fact is, crafting items, whether in a short period of time or across the whole game, bloats the save file. The problem still occurs; no cheats, exploits or bugs required.

2 - what you consider "normal players" and "normal corcumstances" for a playthrough does not line up with all other players' views. As I stated in a previous response, everyone plays games differently.

If person C holds onto weapon Y because they managed to beat special enemy Q with it... why should they have to throw it away if they like holding onto items for such reasons?

Or if someone wants to complete the game 100%... perhaps that is "normal" for their play throughs.

3 - just because people have finished the game and have maxed out characters does not validate the fact that people are limited in their games. It also does not make the issue invalid just because people can do it.

I'm sure you could go through the whole game naked just using fists and stealth and pick up no items. You would never have to worry about the file size, never doing anything but running place to place and ignoring all items. And I'm sure someone has or will do so and find the game hilarious and enjoyable. But that's not for everyone.

Which falls back to the idea... everyone plays the game differently.

I for one dont enjoy just playing through the main story. I enjoy crafting and exploring the game world. If I just wanted a linear story without exploring the world created, I'd stick with a side scrolling game. That's my personal view, and in no way reflects how others will play a game.

TLDR: the 8mb save is a problem. People buy a game to play how they want. To downplay it by claiming "normal" circumstances and playthroughs will never have an issue is ignorant. Stop telling people that this isn't a problem or that cheats and exploits cause it. Both are untrue statements.
 
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