i would say yes, its pointless to backup saves, because only those that get over 8MB get corrupted..
Better save then sorry; until this is fixed I back up all save files and save often. Still can't believe CDPR has said absolutely nothing about this clusterfuck.
Back-ups are rarely bad practice.
It really depends on how you play the game. If you craft tons, the best advice is to save plenty. The problem is once you go over the 8MB limit, it'll save a corrupt file. So all your saves that are smaller than 8MB will still work. It's just that you lose all the progress from your last save that is smaller than 8MB to the 8MB save that got corrupted.
Backups aren't really necessary. Simply deleting the corrupt save and loading an uncorrupted save will allow you to play again. You'll just have lost a bit of progress.
So; Sure, back-up your save files. But better would be to save plenty if you craft a loooot. If you don't craft that much, I wouldn't worry too much either.
The bigger problem is that you basically have to stop playing once you reach 8mb save as even if you have some that are not corrupted any progress will get you over the corrupt file size and you just can't progress further until it is fixed.
So as it is the game has a hard ceiling for progress which once hit you might as well uninstall until its fixed.
Witcher 3 had exactly the sa
Witcher 3 had exactly the same problem, and still does... if you keep looting everything, picking up every flower etc, you will run into same save issue.. its the indexing problem, with way too many IDs in the save. other games have it too. Mount and Blade Bannerlord for example. increasing the size of save.dat file might not be the best solution, because you could eventually reach the new limit... i think they will need to add some mechanism that purges unused IDs from the save, or something...
Hi, first things first : I didn't read all the 39 pages, I'm far of being a dev and my english isn't perfect.
I had the same issue (the first time was the 15th), I first tough I did something wrong (I did not use a glitch or an exploit to duplicate items). I tried everything and I finally started a new V.
Now, I'm lvl 35 with my new V and my save's already >5Mb ... I tried a lot of things I read on reddit or here and you can decrease your sav.dat by a few Kb so ... Useless.
Here's my contribution,
Based on my experience and from what I read, sav.dat get bigger by crafting, looting, doing quests and having the inventory full of (not so) junks.
Increasing the sav.dat limit isn't a good idea because we'll be able to reach that limit.
Possible fixes.
1) Create a .dat file dedicated for almost every sort of action (craft.dat, quests.dat, items.dat, etc.).
2) Purge the save files of unused IDs (as jj284b said).
3) Change save files format to make them lighter
4) Create a "global" file for unchangeable things (like V facegen/voice/lifepath/...)
5) DELETE the dead bodies after a certain amount of time, DELETE vehicles linked to a quest when the quest is done.
I know that I'm far of being the first to have those but here's my ideas.
And I'm convinced that there's no chance I'll be read by a game dev nor a moderator but hey, I like this game and I want it to be better.
I had the same issue (the first time was the 15th), I first tough I did something wrong (I did not use a glitch or an exploit to duplicate items). I tried everything and I finally started a new V.
Now, I'm lvl 35 with my new V and my save's already >5Mb ... I tried a lot of things I read on reddit or here and you can decrease your sav.dat by a few Kb so ... Useless.
Here's my contribution,
Based on my experience and from what I read, sav.dat get bigger by crafting, looting, doing quests and having the inventory full of (not so) junks.
Increasing the sav.dat limit isn't a good idea because we'll be able to reach that limit.
Possible fixes.
1) Create a .dat file dedicated for almost every sort of action (craft.dat, quests.dat, items.dat, etc.).
2) Purge the save files of unused IDs (as jj284b said).
3) Change save files format to make them lighter
4) Create a "global" file for unchangeable things (like V facegen/voice/lifepath/...)
5) DELETE the dead bodies after a certain amount of time, DELETE vehicles linked to a quest when the quest is done.
I know that I'm far of being the first to have those but here's my ideas.
And I'm convinced that there's no chance I'll be read by a game dev nor a moderator but hey, I like this game and I want it to be better.
Thank you this file seems an excellent test case because the 1st load is working, if you immediately save and try to reload it a 2nd time this time you get a black screen. No crafting involved. The first save put the file at 8.4 MB here.
I've read this entire thread and there seems to be a discrepancy between what the devs and most of the community is saying and what we are reading here. Now can we consolidate any verifiable reports of low-crafting playthroughs that got to the size limit (not 5MB, not 7MB but 8MB) just by doing quests etc.? This might make the devs and the community take this problem more seriously as well.
Here's my contribution:
- 64 hours into the game (most of it is probably idling while the game is running in the background)
- Only used crafting once or twice for two items somewhere in the middle of the campaign I believe
- Done all Main quests up until Point of No Return and a few side quests
- Loot all corpses, items and containers I come across, not all of them, but mostly the ones I notice or the ones that are on my way
- Save filesize is 3,513 MBs currently
- 64 hours into the game (most of it is probably idling while the game is running in the background)
- Only used crafting once or twice for two items somewhere in the middle of the campaign I believe
- Done all Main quests up until Point of No Return and a few side quests
- Loot all corpses, items and containers I come across, not all of them, but mostly the ones I notice or the ones that are on my way
- Save filesize is 3,513 MBs currently
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Do you loot everything when doing side quests and missions? I.e. do you pick everything up.
Yeah I also loot items, corpses and containers, not all of them mind, but most of the ones I come across. Edited post
well if you do all of that and you've got only 3.5MB then this is quite reassuring.
It happens in our machines and it happens just as you save. We know this because the game doesn't crash during gameplay because of too much data. After you make a broken save you can continue playing as long as you don't try loading it back. This has nothing to do with cloud saving as the bug happened to people who like me have disabled cloud saves. (I disabled cloud saves when I started to get errors from the service and getting problems starting the game when it failed to reach the cloud)
Does someone here have a save.dat file where they did almost nothing, but crafted multiple times the same item? I know someone crafted 50k grenades or something like that. (Maybe this file has already been posted a while back, but currently this thread has way too many pages to search.)
At the Point of No Return. I'll be sure to get back to this thread after I finish all remaining side quests, gigs and stuff.
I think CDPR has already changed their opinion on this topic. The reason for my believe is this site here:
Error "Saved data is damaged and cannot be loaded." — Cyberpunk 2077 | Technical Support — CD PROJEKT RED
Welcome to CD PROJEKT RED Technical Support! Here you will find help regarding our games and services, as well as answers to frequently asked questions.
support.cdprojektred.com
I'm quite certain that yesterday the sentence was "Unfortunately, the corrupted files cannot be fixed but we might be looking into the save file size limit."
Furthermore it has the "contact us" button again, which shows they are interested. So please, anyone who bas bloated saves, possibly shortly before the 8MiB has been reached and afterwards, send those files to CDPR via the bug report. The more files they have, the easier it becomes to fix this issue.
Good catch, the message was updated!I think CDPR has already changed their opinion on this topic. The reason for my believe is this site here:
Error "Saved data is damaged and cannot be loaded." — Cyberpunk 2077 | Technical Support — CD PROJEKT RED
Welcome to CD PROJEKT RED Technical Support! Here you will find help regarding our games and services, as well as answers to frequently asked questions.
I'm quite certain that yesterday the sentence was "Unfortunately, the corrupted files cannot be fixed but we might be looking into the save file size limit."
Furthermore it has the "contact us" button again, which shows they are interested. So please, anyone who bas bloated saves, possibly shortly before the 8MiB has been reached and afterwards, send those files to CDPR via the bug report. The more files they have, the easier it becomes to fix this issue.