The one from my first playthrough is as well, as I said a bit earlier
.That files are not above 5mb is false.
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.That files are not above 5mb is false.
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If life thought me anything it is that continuous complaints and nagging yield better results.
This here is a case where that warrants that approach.
I repeat my previous statement, that this should be first and only severe priority fix on PC.
There will be many more than is going to unknowingly encounter this over the next few weeks.
This here is a case where that warrants that approach.
I repeat my previous statement, that this should be first and only severe priority fix on PC.
There will be many more than is going to unknowingly encounter this over the next few weeks.
You keep re-posting this, which is somewhat a forum rule violation. If you don't mind, please stop spamming it all the time, as it is getting off-topic and filling this thread with unnecessary and nonconstructive information.
You may have a misunderstanding to the purpose of this forum and especially this thread. We already contacted the Support and you would have known that if you actually would read the user posts.
Moreover this isn't about contacting the support anyway. This forum is made for discussions and feedback for the projects of CDPR. CDPR Staff is also reading here. This is far different from a personal support-ticket by contacting the Support for technical issues. This is about getting feedback with potential causes and solutions to the problem, that even CDPR officially has acknowledged.
May I ask how you know about their commits?
Just really curious
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Of course, I checked it in the steamdb webpage:
Cyberpunk 2077 · AppID: 1091500
Cyberpunk 2077 is an open-world, action-adventure story set in Night City, a megalopolis obsessed with power, glamour and body modification. You play as V, a mercenary outlaw going after a one-of-a-kind implant that is the key to immortality. Cyberpunk 2077 Steam charts, data, update history.
steamdb.info
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Personally, I wouldn't even start to worry unless you start getting above 6MB.
Above the perfect description of why I think this topic doesn't add up to anything else, after the problem - potential problem - has been reported to the competende channel - and the only way to get real help on.
A lot of misinformation here, rumors, just generate panic, something completely unnecessary.
At this point, it's hard to say, because there seem to be many contributing factors to what bloats a save file. Someone can craft and dismantle 1000 things and see a 2KB increase in file size, but then reload that same save to reset the file size and drive to another area and buy a car and see a 500KB increase in file size. So while we know bloat exists, we can't reliably figure out what causes the most bloat versus the least bloat. People say to avoid crafting and looting and the like and I am not so sure those are major contributing factors anymore. Though on a cheating forum, someone crafted 45k maxdoc 1s and saw a several MB increase in save file size, then deconstructed them and regained a portion of that file size gain.
Like Ravashack mentioned, I wouldn't worry and play normally until your save file hits around 6.5MB. Chances are you may not even hit the 8MB ceiling. Also, ignore IskrasFemme, they're a bad faith actor who is only here to cause problems, as I have asked them to cite their sources that refute our information and, at this moment, they have yet to do so.
Yeah I'm done responding to them. Everytime I do my post gets deleted by someone a few seconds later... Look and try to find the post you quoted... It vanished. Getting censored is so fun
Please stop posting here if that is all you have to say. Others are actively searching for, and sharing, information about this clearly very real issue. You are contributing nothing of value.
If the community hadn't raised awareness about this, I would 100% have corrupted my (at that time) 3 save files without being able to complete the game.
I was postponing the ending mission to clear all the side missions.
At that time my save game was 7,7Mb.
But since I was made aware of this issue, I dropped everything else and completed the final mission, and good thing I did.
I was postponing the ending mission to clear all the side missions.
At that time my save game was 7,7Mb.
But since I was made aware of this issue, I dropped everything else and completed the final mission, and good thing I did.
I agree with you, but if no one is talking about it or asking the poster his save, it will just get buried under all our posts.
Also, I think we need a new Thread with just the info gathered here, because people are just reading the first page and jumping to conclusions.
Speculation =/= misinformation. Please don't twist it as such. I'm sure CDPR is looking into this, but it doesn't hurt that people want to find answers, and/or a potential fix until the devs cover it.
Moderator: Hey, all. That's enough personal skirmishing. Please, focus on the technical issue, which is the topic of this thread. The purpose of this area of the Forums is to try to help one another, not to criticise or insult anyone.
Sometimes, mass cooperation from the community can give the developers a jumping off point to start looking into an issue. Instead of starting from square one "save files are corrupt" they at least now know why they are corrupt, and what contributes to that corruption. This is especially critical as the developers are off for holiday, so ANY advantage that the community can give them, no matter how small, can be invaluable.
As I posted a few times after losing my crafting build.
Doing a playthrough while avoiding most crafting, the majority of normal file size increase comes from discovering each location of the map for the first time. Once you've done that, the game increases in file size much slower.
Main quests seem to increase the file size more than side quests, but not to a stupid degree.
For example, 13 trackable quests (a few main story, but most gigs) + lots of NYPD quests + random alerts increased the game file size from 3mb to 3.3mb.
If you do not focus on crafting as a primary goal, and/or do not use it to make thousands of items, then you SHOULD be okay to finish the game. Any crafting you do increases the game size, but if you are only doing dismantling, you should be okay.
If you get to a point where the game hangs at a black screen before the actual loading screen comes up, that's a warning sign. At that point, check your sav.dat file size. It will be around 5-6mb. That's when you should be worried, before then you're fine.
Do you guys think some of the ideas i posted yesterday could be usefull? or are even technically probable to verify or check? basically if every "sidemessage" from crafting is also being logged in history among with other similiar hidden logs?
EDIT: and maybe if that would be the case of increased bloating of game?
That's not entirely out of the question until we can rip open a save file into a human readable format and see what the game is keeping track of, anything is possible. So, yeah, it's something to consider, that the game is keeping track of any and all side messages you receive in the game.
What's the point of crafting if I can't do it because of some bonehead mistake?
A better solution is to raise the **artificial** UNNECESSARY file size cap ..... 8 MB is Chump Change size in the 21st Century
I can hold 4000 8MB files in my memory alone for cripes sakes ...... There is no need for a 8 MB file size limit, there just is not .... Occam's Razor definitely applies here
But you'll never convince a Cultist that their Cult is wrong ...... They have to figure that out for themselves
A better solution is to raise the **artificial** UNNECESSARY file size cap ..... 8 MB is Chump Change size in the 21st Century
I can hold 4000 8MB files in my memory alone for cripes sakes ...... There is no need for a 8 MB file size limit, there just is not .... Occam's Razor definitely applies here
But you'll never convince a Cultist that their Cult is wrong ...... They have to figure that out for themselves
This may in fact happen sooner than you might imagine.
The legendary Rick Gibbed is working on a Cyberpunk Save Editor
It's just a matter of time until stable releases are shared I would say.
However I think by the time CDPR might already have a fix for the save files issue though.
This was discussed at length earlier in the post. At first glance, increasing the size limit seems to be a logical fix for this issue. After we started to gather more information, we started to reconsider this stance. That save file limit was likely carried over from the previous REDengine, the one The Witcher 3 was developed on. Because none of those saves ever broached 6MB, I think, the 8MB limitation wasn't an issue.
REDengine 4 is a whole different beast, and the way the game itself stores user data seems to be a whole other animal as well.. So player information that would cause minimal bloat in The Witcher 3 would possibly cause a whole lot more bloat in Cyberpunk. We're not sure why or how. What we do know for a fact is that something is bloating the save files to dangerously high levels. You begin to see this when your save goes beyond 5.5MB. You hang on a black screen that can take anywhere from thirty seconds to two minutes to get past, depending on save file size.
So the larger the save file you have, speculatively, the longer the loading times will be. Now knowing all of this, increasing the file size limit seems to just be like putting a band-aid on a wound that requires a pressure dressing: The band-aid won't stop the bleeding, and you'll eventually be right back where you were at the beginning, you'll you hit the new file size limit. Because the cut off is 8192KB, we can't know for sure how much further past 8192KB the player data will go, so, we can't know what an acceptable size limit would be for the new ceiling, and giving the game unlimited room to balloon could possibly cause performance issues the larger the save file got.
The problem is the bloat. If the bloat can be fixed, or at least mitigated so it will never exceed 8192KB, then everything should be fine. One could argue that as a protective measure you could increase the file size limit by a bit and have the game warn the user to contact support if their save file size balloons close to that limit, but, on the other hand it's not always good to put checks in that encourage users to contact support because they freak out.
I dunno. It's a doodoo situation all around, and I really hope they fix it. All I can do at this point is offer my services to the community as a bouncing board to bounce ideas off of to hopefully point the devs in the right direction if they consider the community data when troubleshooting.
Actually slightly more complicated than you put it.
The 8mb limit wasn't "set" by the developpers, it's just the limit the game can handle.
In fact, the bigger problem here isn't even the 8mb limit but the fact that savefiles bloat constantly.
Also, I kinda disagree to point out developpers for the issue.
If they had more time to work on the game they would probably have found the issue and fix it before release.
Actually, the point of this topic isn't to be offensive to anyone but merely try to understand what causes the issue and find ways to work around it (maybe even fix it, who knows).
So, of course, you can't prevent some people to be mean and just shout insults willy nilly because internet but this is not the purpose of this topic which is actually to help each other.
I mean, don't get me wrong, I too, sometimes lose faith on humanity when I read certain comments but this is not the purpose to this thread to blindly point out a bug and blame CDPR for it, we're trying to help the community until they fix it (which I'm sure they will but in the meantime, people want to play the game and want to know how they can achieve that without losing hundreds of hours of playtime).