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Sex scenes in this game a re terrible compared to The Witcher 2

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wildkeny

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#21
Jun 11, 2015
jon7882 said:
I disagree. The scenes are just as good.
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Yes. That scene was like the zenith of sex in games. TW3 definitely failed in that department.
 
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jon7882

Rookie
#22
Jun 11, 2015
wildkeny said:
Yes. That scene was like the zenith of sex in games. TW3 definitely failed in that department.
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You referring to the elven bath scene I agree it was a great scene but I don't agree that TW3 failed in that. department.
 
warbaby2

warbaby2

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#23
Jun 11, 2015
vTemeria said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxKRt-Kx9Ps

It's actually not that much better now than I think about it.
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You kidding? It's miles above, say the Triss lighthouse scene.
 
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vTemeria

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#24
Jun 11, 2015
warbaby2 said:
You kidding? It's miles above, say the Triss lighthouse scene.
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If your romancing Yennefer they're pretty much equal, but lol yes the Triss scenes are just recycled mocap.
 
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kl4user

Forum regular
#25
Jun 11, 2015
vTemeria said:
If your romancing Yennefer they're pretty much equal, but lol yes the Triss scenes are just recycled mocap.
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No, not equal - the bath scene is better. Even if you remove the sex part it is still better.
 
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DuranA

Rookie
#26
Jun 11, 2015
Beyond the sex scenes being overall terrible I'd say that the kissing scenes, outside of one with Triss, are horrid because they don't exist!
 
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yagha

Rookie
#27
Jun 11, 2015
wildkeny said:
Yes. That scene was like the zenith of sex in games.
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Seriously, this is 100% true.

I know that some people might have a hard time seriously discussing anything related to a sex scene, but the TW2 elven baths scene is absolutely brilliant. The way it keeps cutting to the Squirrels talking about the appropriation of old elven legends, Geralt's eagerness to pull off his boots in order to get into the water, and Triss's playfulness when she pulls him in. Sex scenes are often the zenith of the romantic relationship between two characters, and CDPR managed to make an amazing scene.
 
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PC1512

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#28
Jun 11, 2015
I don't think more or better sex scene with Triss/Yen/Keira would add anything to the romances even if what we get here are far below from the Elven bath scene.
But I have to admit I miss kinky/funny scenes like Philipa+Cynthia in the Iorveth path as it spice up nicely Geralt's adventure without going hardcore.
I think it wouldn't hurt to add one or two scenes like that to vary with the usual dismemberment, burning alive and tortures....
 
warbaby2

warbaby2

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#29
Jun 12, 2015
vTemeria said:
If your romancing Yennefer they're pretty much equal, but lol yes the Triss scenes are just recycled mocap.
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Right? That's what really got me... they used some of the same animations they used for Kira Metz (far better scene)... maybe that's the biggest reason I think the scenes are inferior, because they aren't as "unique". I also think Triss would have deserved a second scene if you romanced here.
 
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Horwath1

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#30
Jun 12, 2015
Ya, where's the full frontal female nudity. Medival bush!
 
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djwolf001

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#31
Jun 12, 2015
What i found disappointing was that regardless of who you romanced you got the same few shots of "couple being intimate" with no playfulness, voiced responses or dialogue. This meant that the best "sex" scene in the game was the opening scene when Yennifer plays with Geralt having a bath. Okay, so there is no sex but there is intimacy, character and immersion which is the supposed function of the sex to begin with.
 
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Geraltie-Poo

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#32
Jun 12, 2015
To be fair, we got a lot more female nudity than male. Only time you even see Geralt's buttcheeks is during Yen's sex scene. But we'll take what we can get, I suppose... ALTHOUGH, apparently they were going to give Geralt a pork sword in-game but it would take up too much processing power to constantly animate while running around.

http://www.gametrailers.com/videos/lbmd6l/gt-live-the-witcher-3-with-cd-projekt-red-s-damien-monnier---escapist-s-trisha-hershberger

Relevant part starts at 1:04:50 mark. I think it's hilarious that the devs had an argument about Geralt's penis. CDPRED knows where it's at.
 
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kl4user

Forum regular
#33
Jun 12, 2015
djwolf001 said:
What i found disappointing was that regardless of who you romanced you got the same few shots of "couple being intimate" with no playfulness, voiced responses or dialogue. This meant that the best "sex" scene in the game was the opening scene when Yennifer plays with Geralt having a bath. Okay, so there is no sex but there is intimacy, character and immersion which is the supposed function of the sex to begin with.
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Exactly. This is one of the reasons why the elven bath scene is so good in TW2. It has playfulness, teasing, intimacy.

Geraltie-Poo said:
To be fair, we got a lot more female nudity than male. Only time you even see Geralt's buttcheeks is during Yen's sex scene. But we'll take what we can get, I suppose... ALTHOUGH, apparently they were going to give Geralt a pork sword in-game but it would take up too much processing power to constantly animate while running around.

http://www.gametrailers.com/videos/lbmd6l/gt-live-the-witcher-3-with-cd-projekt-red-s-damien-monnier---escapist-s-trisha-hershberger

Relevant part starts at 1:04:50 mark. I think it's hilarious that the devs had an argument about Geralt's penis. CDPRED knows where it's at.
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I think CDPR has more male devs than female ones and, more importantly, their audience, we are mostly males. And the game is much more close to a masculine fantasy than a feminine. I think it is to be expected it having "a lot more female nudity than male". And I hope they do not show women's genitalia on the sex scenes because Geralt's model has no penis. And I also hope if they have penises in their future projects that it is because they want to and not because they feel pressured to achieve cosmic balance.
 
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aleister_l

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#34
Jun 12, 2015
Jou05 said:
16 hours of mocap my ass
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Haha,found this really funny. But also true. Even if the game is mostly awesome, it seems castrated and totally not what they intended to do with it. Maybe a mature pc patch coming?
 
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Geraltie-Poo

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#35
Jun 12, 2015
kl4user said:
I think CDPR has more male devs than female ones and, more importantly, their audience, we are mostly males. And the game is much more close to a masculine fantasy than a feminine. I think it is to be expected it having "a lot more female nudity than male". And I hope they do not show women's genitalia on the sex scenes because Geralt's model has no penis. And I also hope if they have penises in their future projects that it is because they want to and not because they feel pressured to achieve cosmic balance.
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But the dev even says in the interview that they want to be equal in the explicit content they show. It makes no sense from an outsider standpoint to censor almost all male nudity and let chicks' tits hang out - that isn't how it works in real life, right? It's not so much about being "fair", but more about accurately representing sex and intimacy in the world they've created. It's a bit of an immersion-ruiner when a majority of the men are almost always covered by underwear while the woman beside them is nude, because it doesn't make sense.

And, as a girl, I can tell you that there are a lot of female players. The gaming market is expanding like crazy, and the argument "we're mostly guys here so it's okay to show more boobs than dudebutt" gets weaker by the day.
 
Scryar

Scryar

Forum veteran
#36
Jun 12, 2015
I think this is how the sex scenes in Cyberpunk or the next Witcher game will look like

And this how the violence will look like:
[video=youtube;hpUI-KXz7xc]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpUI-KXz7xc[/video]

Then CDP has officially adapted to the american-way of making "adult" games.
 
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FuhrerGrifter

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#37
Jun 12, 2015
Soo! Two guard of radovid pull out the eyes of Philippa Eilhart with a spoon, and now we have black screen in some death cameos and black screen in sex[h=1][/h]
 
warbaby2

warbaby2

Forum veteran
#38
Jun 12, 2015
Geraltie-Poo said:
But the dev even says in the interview that they want to be equal in the explicit content they show. It makes no sense from an outsider standpoint to censor almost all male nudity and let chicks' tits hang out - that isn't how it works in real life, right? It's not so much about being "fair", but more about accurately representing sex and intimacy in the world they've created. It's a bit of an immersion-ruiner when a majority of the men are almost always covered by underwear while the woman beside them is nude, because it doesn't make sense.

And, as a girl, I can tell you that there are a lot of female players. The gaming market is expanding like crazy, and the argument "we're mostly guys here so it's okay to show more boobs than dudebutt" gets weaker by the day.
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From a purely technical standpoint, a bare chest is bare chest, no matter the gender, no? ;)

On male nudity: I would be absolutely fine with showing Geralt ass if it would mean we get to see Ciri's in the sauna... I'm all for equality there. Now, that the media is usually shying away from showing male genitalia, while showing a bush here and there can be ok... I have no idea why that is, personally. Maybe it has to do with the fact that female parts still are somewhat hidden, even in a full frontal shot... beats me. *shrugs*
 
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Geraltie-Poo

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#39
Jun 12, 2015
warbaby2 said:
From a purely technical standpoint, a bare chest is bare chest, no matter the gender, no? ;)

On male nudity: I would be absolutely fine with showing Geralt ass if it would mean we get to see Ciri's in the sauna... I'm all for equality there. Now, that the media is usually shying away from showing male genitalia, while showing a bush here and there can be ok... I have no idea why that is, personally. Maybe it has to do with the fact that female parts still are somewhat hidden, even in a full frontal shot... beats me. *shrugs*
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Yeah, that is true. Geralt is shirtless several times in the game - hell, it's the opening shot. I'm more talking about underwear though. Yen's FULLY naked on at least two separate occasions, where Geralt's wearing those gross granny panties of his. However, on the whole, the game does seem less progressive in the nudity/sex department than W2, for both genders.

And then the whole Ciri thing. Nudity =/= sexuality. Did anyone take those old woman boobs int he sauna as sexual? Or the bruxa in the Night to Remember trailer? She was naked, but certainly not to get jiggy with Geralt. I understand them wanting to portray Ciri as a daughter figure, but then that's knocked flat when you get the opportunity to proposition Skjall for some quality time in the stables. And Yen is a mother figure, but is still sexualised, so why not Ciri? She's an adult, and it even mentions Mistle (her love in the books for those who don't know) in the sauna if you walk in without a towel.
 
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jon7882

Rookie
#40
Jun 12, 2015
Scryar said:
I think this is how the sex scenes in Cyberpunk or the next Witcher game will look like

And this how the violence will look like:
[video=youtube;hpUI-KXz7xc]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpUI-KXz7xc[/video]

Then CDP has officially adapted to the american-way of making "adult" games.
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I really hope you are joking. I'm not commenting on the DAI sex scenes because I've not played DA2 or DAI yet. But the violence and gore in MKX is so over the top gross it is not even funny.

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Geraltie-Poo said:
Yeah, that is true. Geralt is shirtless several times in the game - hell, it's the opening shot. I'm more talking about underwear though. Yen's FULLY naked on at least two separate occasions, where Geralt's wearing those gross granny panties of his. However, on the whole, the game does seem less progressive in the nudity/sex department than W2, for both genders.
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How so? I know the Succubus is an example but overall I think it's just as good as TW2.
And then the whole Ciri thing. Nudity =/= sexuality. Did anyone take those old woman boobs int he sauna as sexual? Or the bruxa in the Night to Remember trailer? She was naked, but certainly not to get jiggy with Geralt. I understand them wanting to portray Ciri as a daughter figure, but then that's knocked flat when you get the opportunity to proposition Skjall for some quality time in the stables. And Yen is a mother figure, but is still sexualised, so why not Ciri? She's an adult, and it even mentions Mistle (her love in the books for those who don't know) in the sauna if you walk in without a towel.
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This I agree with. Nudity is far too often taken as sexual even when it isn't. Part of that is in the US ads use nudity too often. Like a jewlery company in KY having a topless girl to advertise rings. She has her arm over her breasts but still. I may be american and christian but I believe we have poisoned the minds of people that nudity is sex which it is not. Breasts are not sexual either male or female unless portrayed in a sexual manner. It's a reason I support this.http://gotopless.org/
 
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