Shani - Enhanced Edition TW2?

[CostinRaz]

Shani - Enhanced Edition TW2?

So after almost one year of waiting, countless patches and now this Enhanced Edition coming out has there been any word on Shani?

I don't mind her not being in TW2, as long as we are provided an explanation, ANY explanation, as to why Geralt ended up in bed with Triss. I know he sleeps around a lot, but really Shani could be important to him in TW1, very important, for that to be completely ignored...well it's one of the few things that pisses me off about TW2.

I know quite a lot of people don't give a damn about this, but ignoring one of the major choices we could make in TW1...well I don't even want to think about what could mean for TW3.

 

[80maxwell08]

I agree with you here and really don't get why it doesn't seem to be mentioned a lot. If someone is plot important than they should at least have an explanation for why they aren't around in the next game.

 

[username_2093396]

I agree as well. I chose Shani on the save that I imported so I was a bit surprised to start the game off in bed with Triss instead. I understand why Triss needs to be in TW2 for story reasons, but I would have at least liked a few lines of dialogue explaining what happened with Shani (like maybe Dandelion or Zoltan could have mentioned where she went and what she's up to). I think that would have added a bit of continuity and softened the blow of getting stuck with Triss instead

 

[eskiMoe]

So after almost one year of waiting, countless patches and now this Enhanced Edition coming out has there been any word on Shani?

Shani suddenly appearing in Loc Muinne would just be silly.

She's proly still in Vizima, caring for the sick and feeble

 

[Dona.794]

I'd like to hear from Shani, too, she was my choice and I'd choose her again if given a chance It wouldn't be unrealistic if they broke up or whatever, but it was very confusing to not hear a word about her at all :S

 

[Garrison72]

Maybe we'll see her in TW3. It'd be better than shoehorning her into the present game.

 

[kitadol]

I didn't go with Shani and I understand from the nature of the story that they decided to make Triss the "canonn" choice, but for a game that focuses so heavily on action and consequences.

For example, I would be extremly dissapointed if we go into Witcher 3 with one cannon ending of Witcher 2 as the official(regarding the composition of the states). I would feel betrayed because in Witcher 2 we get to hear some of the transformation of the world (ie. Temeria no longer being independent, the whole Saskia affair, what happened in Kaedwen, the whole mage business), but we didn't get to see it.

Now I understand that making a series with so many choices and so many different states across different games is very hard, and that's why I think that CDPR should make an expansion pack to TW2 that focuses on seeing the consequences of your actions, and then TW3 be more independent of that while we go to Nilfgaard (could still make


TLDR: For a series that's based on choice, it's dissapointing if our choices don't matter and developers impose the cannon across games.

 

[complistic]

I'd rather they focus on the good characters.
But I wouldn't be opposed to them giving her a cameo if they must.

 

[Seboist]

A mention of what happened to her would be nice.

 

[Babli.480]

I wondered about it too. I am now replaying Witcher 1 and I would like to choose Shani this time (because I chose Triss when I played it first time) but when I remember how she is completely absent, not even mentioned, I just dont want to, because then Triss would feel really forced on me with that save.

I am pretty sure that Shani is still in Wyzima. It just makes sense. But at least some explanation why Geralt left her would be great.

 

[nocny.945]

(Google Translator)

Geralt leaves women without explanation

I think that REDs do not even expect that the role of Shani is considered to be so important. Wrongly assume that the relationships between Geralt and Shani are obvious, known to all, and they downplayed that it could create a new view of relations between them.

 

[AsTheDeath]

As someone who hasn't finished either game yet and therefore doesn't really know a lot about it, I'd still like to point out that game-to-game save importing isn't easy. The Witcher 2 goes further in its choices and consequences and non-linearity than any other modern RPG I know of, and adding to that complexity the complexity of previous game imports would have meant a LOT of work, but only a limited (namely, only those that both imported their save from TW1, had a different save than the 'canon' ending, and care about it) amount of people would actually care. I agree that it would definitely be really great to have the possibility, but I think that it wasn't really possible without sacrificing other parts of the game. Again, as I haven't finished either game yet, I can't really say too much about their relation, but I think I'll look at the games as mostly separate games, even if 2 continues where 1 left off. I also kind of got into the novels so I´m mostly just enjoying being able to play as Geralt in the Witcher´s world.

 

[CostinRaz]

Wut the Melon: That argument is crap, you know why? Because what if they do the same with W2 choices, what if they make them all irrelevant in TW3

That would destroy TW2 and TW3 for me.

 

[gregski]

Wut the Melon: That argument is crap, you know why? Because what if they do the same with W2 choices, what if they make them all irrelevant in TW3

That would destroy TW2 and TW3 for me.

Well, to be honest that's the question I am asking myself lately - how are they going to handle this. Because it's damn obvious that they will have to address all the choices in TW2 somehow and at the same time it's obvious that it's going to be rather difficult to pull off.

It probably depends mostly on which story losse ends they decide to ditch and which to continue.

 

[CostinRaz]

If they decided to ditch any major choice ( like sparing Henselt/killing him, siding with Roche/Iorveth, who you give Anais to etc. ) them I'm sorry they are doing the exact same thing Bioware did with DA2.

The only thing that actually matters from TW1 into TW2 is Siegfried, and to a far lesser degree Ada.

 

[Dona.794]

Gregski and Costin, I share your concerns. TW2 had a broad palette of choices and I'm both curious and scared to see how it will be handled in the future.

I also think TW1 to TW2 import can be forgiven. TW2 is built on a whole new engine and they seem to have moved in a slightly different direction that is closer to books (Triss regaining her old personality, Yennefer being brought back into the picture, for example). So I can forgive them the fact very few choices mattered, if that's what they had to sacrifice to make a better series. Don't get me wrong, I would still love to see Shani back and they did say they didn't write her off yet :]

However, TW2 is the game a lot of people will get to know (those who can't be bothered with TW1, majority of Xbox players) and if they screw up TW3 import... well, it won't be pretty.

 

[gregski]

If we look at the fact that the decisions have so many variations (16 or so at the end), it looks like it's going to be extremely difficult. So I think they will have to choose the most important ones and ditch those less significant, probably covering the latter in TW3's narrative.

 

[CostinRaz]

There's actually 8 variations, you double that depending on what you with Aryan.

 

[Seboist]

They dropped the ball with the Scoia'tael path import. It should have had Iorveth be more willing to give Geralt the benefit of the doubt and possibly avoided the Arachas fight.

 

[Dona.794]

If we look at the fact that the decisions have so many variations (16 or so at the end), it looks like it's going to be extremely difficult. So I think they will have to choose the most important ones and ditch those less significant, probably covering the latter in TW3's narrative.

Yeah, they will. I can see many political decisions working as a side-narrative if you have nothing to do with those countries again. As much as I love Roche and Iorveth, I don't expect to see them much in future games. A lot of characters move on and they are not your direct concern. It will be fun to see how the war plays out, tho...

They dropped the ball with the Scoia'tael path import. It should have had Iorveth be more willing to give Geralt the benefit of the doubt and possibly avoided the Arachas fight.

I don't see why he should? You waltz in with his arch nemesis and physically attack him first. Besides, he also says he disagrees with Yaevinn's ideology, so there is no reason he should trust someone who supported that ideology.

...but yeah, it kind of sucked one of the biggest decisions - who to side with - didn't matter at all. Except in the case of Siegfried, but even that is a rare cameo.