I'd really, really like a one on one battle with both people using all those things. Imagine the devastation!
In the few 2020 games I played that involved ACPA at least one building would be leveled during a fight, usually more. (And I'm not talking about little buildings, I'm talking tenements.)I'd really, really like a one on one battle with both people using all those things. Imagine the devastation!
That's exactly what I'm thinking when I'm imagining an ACPA battle. I know that it isn't likely, but it'd be really cool if they added destructible environments just for the ACPA battles. Just thinking about it is getting me hyped up for this game.
It would be awesome if buildings were destructible.
Epic multiplayer in perspective.
It would be awesome if everything that can be affected by bullets, knives, monoswords and spilled coffee - was- affected. Bullet holes in walls and if you're behind it, you get hit. Kendachi Monoswards can lop off limbs or cut through a door to get you. A critical fail with a monowhip can take off your hand or face. Spill your coffee when a pedestrian brushes by you, get a stain on your clothes. Plant an explosive at a storefront, blow the front windows in and the wall down.
Real next-gen kind of stuff. And the little touches that impress players and reviewers.
Sadly, also crazy intensive in terms of resources for both coding and gameplay options. Hard to set up a thrilling close-quarters alley showdown if the the player has gone to the trouble of rigging the alley beforehand with explosives and knocked down the walls so he can just run the enemy over in his Interceptor.
We can dream, though...
Real next-gen kind of stuff. And the little touches that impress players and reviewers.
Sadly, also crazy intensive in terms of resources for both coding and gameplay options. Hard to set up a thrilling close-quarters alley showdown if the the player has gone to the trouble of rigging the alley beforehand with explosives and knocked down the walls so he can just run the enemy over in his Interceptor.
We can dream, though...
Excellent point in favor of destructible environments and expressed in a very succinct manner.
That was truly the beauty of Morrowind. You could kill ANY character.
You would also break the main quest if you say ----went on a mass killing spree in Vivee... but the devs back then didn't care!
Red Faction had a purely destructible environment at one point.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07BJfHoyQMw
As early as Half-life, you could shoot through doors (albeit there were no bullet holes.)
In general, I think the industry have moved toward the fluff and less toward gameplay.
Having a sword that is able to smash through a door is tactical and thus relevant.
Having coffee stains spill over on clothes,flip flops that flip flop or crepes sautes actually jump in pans in Chinatown is excessive attention to details.
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I thiiiink CDPR has talked about this. Damned if I can recall where, though.
Well, this is a difference between an RPG and a shooter - the little details that make the world come alive. I mean, I'd never call it necessary, but it's like seeing your character reflected in someone else's mirrorshades - a nice touch that makes you go, "oooh!" appreciatively. We're talking about an industry that gets seriously excited over water reflections and has 978 mods for making even better water in Skyrim, after all.
That said, I'd appreciate coffee stains and bird droppings, but I'd really like to see shoot-through environments.
I played Red Faction and a few sequels.. It was a neat gimmick, but not a great game or game series. Still, I agree - better to let PCs come up with whatever tricks and if they break the game a bit, meh.
Btw: crepes sautes that jump in pans? Fucking great idea! I love the visual.
This is pretty much exactly what I wanna see in RPGs, all the little details. I played the Battlefield games, I loved Battlefield 3, (not 4 because it was a broken bunch of garbage when it came out.) I love destructible environments, but I don't really need too much of it in a game like this. Sure it'd be great if I could level everything, but then I'd just be left with a city that is just rubble. I'm with Sard on this, I want bird shit on my pimped out future car, I wanna be able to shoot the birds for revenge, I want a shit ton of ambient conversations and I want even the small things in shops to be insanely detailed. That being said, Counter-strike has done shoot-through way back in what was it, late 1990's? Early 2000? Anyway, yeah, give me some of that. Also I'd like to hear people recognize you if you've been causing shit, your face to appear on screens if you've been killing cops, and the NPCs to react to fire or just the cold weather. Also if the character has just been drenched in water, I want my character to stay wet for a long ass time before it goes away. I could go on but I better stop, the list of small details I want in this game is massive... Reactive clothes! If I have a trench coat, I want it to move around naturally like in the watch dogs demo. Okay, stopping now.
Getting back on topic, I think it'd be a shame for the older fans who haven't been reading up on gaming news if they saw a cyberpunk game had came out so they go out and buy it only to find they won't get a chance to get an ACPA. I mean I'm sure a lot of fans wanna see every little bit of cyberpunk coolness realized in video game form only to realize one of the coolest things is missing. It'd be like, "Oh, a new Doom is out! What? The BFG has been removed? That's bullshit." Okay, maybe it wouldn't be that bad but you still get the point. Anyway, even if it's available right from the start or if it's only near the end of the game, I'd like to see ACPA make it into the game.
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This is exactly the attitude I'm deathly afraid we'll get if Cyberpunk is an FPS.
But I'll try (again) to stop beating the dead horse.
I won't, I just bought a whole new bushel of scourges too.... fuck FPS.....
I think she means a first-person SHOOTER, whereas you mean a FIRST-PERSON shooter.
Anyway, none of those things is very likely. CDPR hasn't done first-person before and they have talked about the difficulty of putting shooting into an RPG.
So odds are quite good, ( 2 games to 0) that we will get third-person RPG with shooter elements.
Pretty much.
First or Third person view, or even overhead, each have their advantages and disadvantages but it's fairly irrelevant as it's really just a matter of how the game is presented.
I know some folks will argue vehemently in favor one view or another but it's really a case of "do you prefer jelly or jam".
That said, in the player vs character skill issue I guess the answer is here:
At 2:54 the answer is clear (unfortunately)...
"We certainly want to avoid the situation where your combat capabilities is that much dependent on the stats, it's about your own skill."
First or Third person view, or even overhead, each have their advantages and disadvantages but it's fairly irrelevant as it's really just a matter of how the game is presented.
I know some folks will argue vehemently in favor one view or another but it's really a case of "do you prefer jelly or jam".
That said, in the player vs character skill issue I guess the answer is here:
"We certainly want to avoid the situation where your combat capabilities is that much dependent on the stats, it's about your own skill."
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I like first person games. D: Sure first person shooters these days are bang bang I am big US military man simulators, but first person games are awesome at least in my book. Deus Ex was amazing and I can't play an elder scrolls or fallout game in third person because of the dumb animations. Also I'll admit, I do like first person shooters like Half Life and Counter Strike. Half Life was so cool when I first played it, it blew my damn mind. Buuut I also like third person games, I'm not really bothered which one we'll get. Like Sard said we're probably going to get a third-person RPG with shooter elements.