Should Witcher 3 use PhysX instead of Havok?

[username_3581677]

While the descritpion of the financial situations of AMD and Nvidia is correct, the parts I've marked bold are just plain wrong.

I repped you because in Germany AMD must be god......

Just kidding lol...

I have done quite a few bench marks and have always came up with supporting data for my claims

here is a link to a latest test

it clearly indicates that nvidia is the smoothest running cards

http://www.pcgamer.com/2013/02/06/3dmark-wars-nvidia-and-amd-go-head-to-head-on-our-test-rig-who-wins/

btw this was just the fiorst quick search I did I have read more than a few articles indicating the same!!!!

 

[mxYELLOW]

I repped you because in Germany AMD must be god......

Just kidding lol...

I have done quite a few bench marks and have always came up with supporting data for my claims

here is a link to a latest test

it clearly indicates that nvidia is the smoothest running cards

http://www.pcgamer.com/2013/02/06/3dmark-wars-nvidia-and-amd-go-head-to-head-on-our-test-rig-who-wins/

btw this was just the fiorst quick search I did I have read more than a few articles indicating the same!!!!

True. AMD is aware of this frame latency thing and begun issuing fixes with the latest beta drivers (Skyrim performance really improved).

Their 7000 series cards still holds a bit of performance which only needs a little driver push. I think this is one of the reason why they decided to stick with the series for one more year and release the 8000s on Q4.

 

[Zogrim]

The claim that few companies use PhysX is false. 396 games have been released with PhysX support. This is fewer than Havok ("over 500") but no foundation whatsoever for spreading FUD that "few" companies will use it.

Actually, that number represent all Havok products (physics, script, animation, ai) + all games released on Vision Engine are counted too (even those from before Havok bought it)

So the real number of titles using Havok Physics is about 400-450, I would say.

Just passing by..

 

[Sken]

**NVIDIA announces PhysX and APEX support for PS4**

Heads up, folks. NVIDIA will be invading the PS4 as the company has announced PhysX and APEX support for the recently-announced gaming console. Both PhysX and APEX are software development kits from NVIDIA that will allow game developers to design new PS4 games with stunning graphics, similar to what we saw during the PS4 reveal last month.

NVIDIA’s product manager for PhysX, Mike Skolones, says that “great physics technology is essential for delivering a better gaming experience and multiplatform support is critical for developers,” and “with PhysX and APEX support for PlayStation 4, customers can look forward to better games.” Indeed, both PhysX and APEX should make games more realistic with life-like movements and scenery.

PhysX is designed specifically to be used with hardware acceleration in processors and graphics cards, and the technology allows for more complex and detailed worlds in video games, including more-realistic explosions, clothes that react more naturally to the wind and body movements, and of course, better life-like motions of characters.

Both PhysX and APEX are already integrated into a handful of games. NVIDIA boasts that PhysX alone is featured in more than 150 games, and is used by over 10,000 developers. Some games that are taking advantage of NVIDIA’s technologies include Borderlands 2, the Batman Arkham series, Mirror’s Edge, and Metro 2033.

http://www.slashgear.com/nvidia-announces-physx-and-apex-support-for-ps4-07272935/

 

[mxYELLOW]

Nvidia Announces PhysX Support for PlayStation 4

 

[Aver]

Don't get excited, it's like with PhysX on X360 and PS3. It only supports basics - nothing special.

 

[mxYELLOW]

I don't think it will be as basic as you think. As one of the long running proprietary feature from Nvidia, I don't think they will bring it half-baked to the next-gen which may run for another 5-6 years.

 

[AsTheDeath]

Interesting... considering PS4 will run on an AMD GPU, I wonder whether the PhysX will be advanced as with current nVidia GPU's or not.

 

[Aver]

I don't think it will be as basic as you think. As one of the long running proprietary feature from Nvidia, I don't think they will bring it half-baked to the next-gen which may run for another 5-6 years.

And I don't think that we will see PhysX optimized for AMD cards. It's too late to implement CUDA in AMD's graphics cards.

 

[M4xw0lf.978]

CPU-Physx has always been available on the consoles. It does not mean anything regarding GPU-accelerated Physx-eyecandy.

 

[Ploutonas]

Well, its purpose is to sell more cards, but providing a desirable feature that is designed for your architecture and not a competitor's entirely different architecture can hardly be called a scam. nVidia has a big market in using their cards as little supercomputers. They would be delinquent if they did not cater to it. They are under no responsibility to non-customers when they do so.

But I do agree with the principle that it is not a good idea to segment your product so that only users of a certain brand of hardware get the highest performance from it.

I revived this topic, because I am making my research between cards. My old (Gtx 480)card got faulty because of Nvidia faulty drivers with black screens and bsods, so the card freaked out and I got 120c. Thank god I had active warranty. But I lost an amazing card with great compute power for my programs.

Anyways... I am between 280x in crossfire (2 of them) or a gtx780 (single solution). I want to avoid nvidia this time, not because of their drivers, they have good history of making good drivers.. But mostly because Nvidia cut by 80% the compute power of their gpus, just be able to sell their quadros and thats a scam. And they sell us now gpus only for games in crazy prices.

Now if I get a 780, its useless for some programs, while AMD is the best.

Another bad nvidia behavior is what they did with the hybrid physx. Some people bought an nvidia card for physx and used an AMD card as the main. It worked well, till nvidia locked amd cards out. Thats also a scam....

Since a customer decides to use 2 cards from 2 different brands, I think we should have the right to do that, they just didnt used the first pcie slot for the nvidia, lol... Hardware phsx it is? Or a monopoly....

So I may buy amd cards after all, I am dissapointed with them, since I lost my best card and I dont wish to buy an extremly expensive game gpu for my programs, its only for games.

And to defend what I said about the compute power of the nvidia gpus.. Check this review, a 280$ card (280x), wins with double scores, a 600-700$ by nvidia gpu (780) look at the pages 15-16-17... sigh
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-r9-280x-r9-270x-r7-260x,3635-17.html

 

[ApuLunas.211]

if i have both nvidia and amd cards, can i use nvidia card just for physx?

 

[Aver]

if i have both nvidia and amd cards, can i use nvidia card just for physx?

Yes.

 

[GuyNwah]

There have been some at least partially successful efforts to do so. For the latest cookbook, see http://www.ngohq.com/graphic-cards/22136-how-to-fix-hybrid-physx-with-latest-physx-and-geforce-285-solved.html

It won't work with just every game and just every hybrid configuration. But you can try it.

 

[ApuLunas.211]

good, then it's better i don't sell my current graphic adapter.