It does not need to be anything more than in Far Cry 3, where a bunch of cut-scenes are prophetic hallucinogen-induced dreams. Ubisoft used the drugs as gameplay element, and got away with it. FC3 was extremely successful game, and one of the best open world shooters/adventures ever made.Tommy said:
I do want drugs/smoking in cyberpunk, because that's a theme of the genre. Don't need it in The Witcher.
Never played any of the Far Cry or Grand Theft Auto series . So i`ll take your word for it . Plus we don`t know yet what if any drugs are to be involved . But no I don`t want to see any hallucinogenic dream sequence or user using sequences . I think the game will be just fine without either . Just my opinion you understand .vivaxardas said:
Well, everything has its place even in The Witcher the topic of drugs has not been ignored. Recall the little situation with Marietta Loredo in Loredo's basement, that scene fit perfectly within the story and the quest.Tommy said:
Also I feel like we are getting a little off topic with the hallucinogenic dream sequence thing, but recall what happens after you take the Visionary's potion in chapter 2, even something like that can have its place in the world of The Witcher under certain circumstances.
That's the key with smoking/drug use and such, if it fits in a certain quest from a writer's perspective there should be no boundary preventing that writer from expressing their creative vision.
Looking at the ratings they give to some games,Tommy said:
they must already be under the influence of drugs.
But yes, I agree with you.
The use of drugs in the game might send the wrong message,
so let's leave that to the modding community.
I understand where you`re coming from . But what i`m referring to are real life drugs like Heroin , Cocaine and the like . Those have no place in the witcher series . Plus a bit from the rules and regulationssilversteel said:
• All acts forbidden under Polish law are also forbidden on www.thewitcher.com. This shall include but not be limited to the publication of posts:
- advocating or in any way contributing to the violation of copyright laws,
- promoting alcoholic beverages, other intoxicating substances and narcotics, as well as their use,
Hmh, hmh... They were giant mushrooms. Even I would be against Geralt hallucinating the forest of giant ... non-mushrooms.rohirrim7 said:
How the fuck did we get from smoking tobacco and chilling on a meadow in the sunset, to fucking promoting illegal drugs in the thread?!Tommy said:
Chillout bro. The game already has fisstech and I doubt anyone gives two shits about the depiction of drugs in The Witcher. I also doubt RED's going to include any drugs that aren't lore friendly so you're good on that front. It's an adult game for adults. If we can handle the insane violence, intelligent dialogue and sex and nudity, we can handle some drug use as well.
And we shouldn't be hamstringing video games by stipulating what a developer can and cannot depict. As an artistic medium, they're allowed to do whatever the fuck they want to. If people don't like the inclusion of a certain element in a work of art, you're free to not fucking buy it.
And I still don't understand how we got here!! I was under the impression this was a light hearted, fun thread about smoking a pipe on Roach while riding towards the sunset...
I second this idea! I would absolutely love a relaxenzi, chillaxenzi, maxenzi scene with the whole gang in some awesomely, cosy tavern and just talk with my peeps. Damn. That would be absolute magicKingHochmeister said:
Haha, I'm all for it man! Sounds like RED could do something really fun and creative with it! I remember the drug induced hallucination scene in TW2. With the chicken! I was utterly confused while laughing silently to myselfKingHochmeister said:Could we not just have drugs, but also a cut-scenes of some contextual hallucinations, raging from a fighting monsters nightmare to a crazy love scene? In such case my Geralt sure wouldn't leave a settlement without being fully stocked on hallucinogens.
Fantastic moment. So hey, I'm on board baby! Bring on the madness!
Read my post again I didn`t say a word about Fisstech . I said real life drugs like heroin or cocaine have no place in the witcher series . If you had bothered to read all of the previous posts you would have seen the word cocaine mentioned before I opened up about it . Just trying to stop something before it gets started .FoggyFishburne said:
When the moderators caution a discussion for contravening forum rules, and cite the rule that was contravened,
they are not inviting argument over whether the discussion in fact contravenes the cited rule.
Discussion of a desire to exhibit real-world (illegal) recreational drugs [tobacco isn't illegal, even in California... yet] in the game has always been treated as violating the rule against promoting drugs.
Therefore, such discussion -- including the discussion of whether the discussion violated the rule -- needs to cease, not be continued in the form of an argument over whether the rule obtains or whether it should be enforced.
they are not inviting argument over whether the discussion in fact contravenes the cited rule.
Discussion of a desire to exhibit real-world (illegal) recreational drugs [tobacco isn't illegal, even in California... yet] in the game has always been treated as violating the rule against promoting drugs.
Therefore, such discussion -- including the discussion of whether the discussion violated the rule -- needs to cease, not be continued in the form of an argument over whether the rule obtains or whether it should be enforced.
Damn it! A witcher hallucinogenic? That's why your eyes shine like that in the evenings!SystemShock7 said:
White Seagull is very gentle. It's Black Seagull that is hallucinogenic.
Page 83, Blood of Elves (UK edition)
Afaik, with the exception of (at least) Black gull they aren't. Although there is a possibility that some potions have some nasty side effects..
You know, eruption like this makes always people overreact against you, Foggy and then poor moderators has to do extra job to throw water on fire... of a billion of ways to say the same question, why exaclty choosing this one?FoggyFishburne said:
On topic:
I wholefully agree with Tommy. They probably also should think about their advocating usage of alcohol, with the drinking contests, hungover quests and so on. I find them funny, but it's less if seen in this shadow. :hmm:
Regarding the presence of fisstech that someone mentioned above: last time I checked, it was considered a drug, a bad drug and a bad habit, in the hand of evil characters like Jared, Bleinheim, Professor and so on. So I don't really see how to associate the usage of drugs, to tobacco or pipe weed.
They're mellow man...waaaaay mellow.KingHochmeister said:
Except Bilbo, he's skittish as hell. Come to think of it, so are Frodo, Sam, Merry and Pippin. No wonder that pipeweed is in high regard in the Shire. Habitual smoking was it?