Some terrifying and unpleasant stories in addition to descriptions of certain well-known game characters. Criticism, judgments, reflections.

[LeKill3rFou]

—or does everything she can to ensure that by the time the interrogation begins, Evelyn is in a vegetative state.

Did you played the game... At this point I wonder.
From the moment you unplug her in the scavs hideout, Evelyn is no state to answer questions. There is absolutely no chance...

There’s no need for me to play through the game again.

I will stop there. You seems to just throwing nonsense trying to prove your point... I have no time to waste, so I'm done. Feel free to think whatever you want, it's fine

 

[Fatalist]

Did you played the game... At this point I wonder.
From the moment you unplug her in the scavs hideout, Evelyn is no state to answer questions. There is absolutely no chance...

Soon we'll come get to that moment.
P.S. Johnny thinks differently

I will stop there. You seems to just throwing nonsense trying to prove your point... I have no time to waste, so I'm done. Feel free to think whatever you want, it's fine

Interestingly, Judy constantly distracts V from the essential details of the search for Maman Brigitte,

And by the way, only Judy knows exactly how many recordings are stored on Evelyn’s chip.
And how many she found.
And how many she was able to delete and permanently destroy.

 

[Fatalist]

Well, since I’ve been accused of being a troll on the forum, that means I’ve got nothing left to lose:
Let’s have some real fun, then!
5. Judy is a secret agent of the NUSA!
Let’s take a closer look at the last significant mission that connects V and Judy Alvarez—the Pyramid Song mission:

Well, Judy is a well-known BD editor, yep, she loves art, makes the best movies in Night City, blah blah, you all know this perfectly well, it’s obvious.

However, what exactly happens as V and Judy dive into the sunken village in Coronado Bay?

Judy tells V that she’s going to shoot an unusual video game, conduct an experiment—specifically, record the combined thought patterns of two people experiencing intense shared emotions—and use that as the basis for an animated film.

Leaving aside for the moment the fact that V nearly dies during the quest (more on that later), what is actually happening?
What is happening is exactly what Special Agent Reed calls “personality imprint theft,” or “Colombian job.”
Or, what V and Alex are doing in Black Sapphire, stealing the emotional imprint of the French twins.

Well, Judy disguises what’s happening as the innocent work of an artist.

And now, thanks to a certain “interested party”—one capable of collecting “personal imprints,” much like how Mr. Hands was able to obtain Aguilar’s imprint—there is, thanks to Judy’s efforts, a complete imprint of V’s personality, stored on an external drive. Consequently, if anyone ever gets the idea to don “V's mask,” they will be able to carry out any operation using the appearance and behavioral copy of our beloved protagonist.
Well, as for which organization specifically uses identity theft technology, you can try to figure that out for yourself from the “Phantom Liberty” expansion

Have fun, chooms!

 

[shadowm0ss]

The next REDstream is going to be a panel of the game’s writers reading this thread together in total silence.

 

[Fatalist]

I just need to find a place to put my old skins before I uninstall Cyberpunk from my computer.
Maybe they’ll come in handy for someone, at least ))
Anyway:

7. How, why, and for what reason did Judy Alvarez kill Evelyn Parker? (discussion point)

If you were paying close attention to that tragic moment when Judy calls V in tears and begs him to come over (only to find Evelyn murdered in the bathroom), you probably noticed that in that brief instant when V enters Evelyn’s apartment, her eyes glow blue.
According to Cyberpunk rules, NPCs’ eyes glow blue in two cases:
1. When a character receives or transfers electronic money;
2. When a transaction involving information—files, data, etc.—is taking place.
Thus, we can assume that by the time V arrives at the apartment, Judy is doing one of two things: either transferring Evelyn’s money to her own account, or downloading data from her dead brain. Choose whichever option you prefer.
One might assume she’s calling the police, but according to the plot, she calls them later and in V’s presence (to secure an alibi, of course).

(It lasts literally just a second or two—a very brief moment in the game)

5. Judy is a secret agent of the NUSA!

By the way, if Judy—whose strange questions are meant to scan V’s brain for the presence of the construct—plays all sorts of strange games with him—including underwater and at the Clouds Club—then she achieves her goal: yes, now she, or whoever is behind her, knows for certain that:

1. V has a biochip in his head.

2. Johnny’s psyche is indeed recorded on the chip.
3. The biochip survived the robbery at Compeki Plaza and is more or less intact.
4. Now V picked up Evelyn Parker’s trail and followed it to the Voodoo guys (to Pacifica).


If that's the case, then we now have the opportunity to gain a new perspective on the question of where the data like this comes from on So Mi's computer in the presidential shuttle:

You know, some people say “Oleg,” some say "Dexter Deshon", and some point to T-bag...
And now we have a different way of thinking


What else is there to say here?
Given the possibility that Judy killed Evelyn , you should take a look at the correspondence between Judy and Lucy Thackery on Judy’s home computer.
It’s quite long, so I won’t quote it in full—especially since everyone knows exactly where to find it in the game on their own.
In short, here’s what happened: Judy and V rescue Evelyn from the scavengers’ hideout. Evelyn can’t be transported and doesn’t fully regain consciousness. Judy pumps her full of some kind of medication and sends a message to Lucy.

(!) Who is Lucy Thackery ?
If there is one person in Night City whose conscience is completely clear according to the game’s lore, it is Lucy. She is a practicing Reaperdoc whose medical credentials and moral integrity are beyond question.
Even while held captive by the “Malstrom” gang, Lucy continues to treat the gang members who kidnapped her as patients and does everything she can to help them.

Lucy is also quite a helpful person and always tries to assist acquaintances (and even strangers) who find themselves in trouble.

And so, after exchanging messages with Judy, Lucy replies that it is possible to remove Evelyn’s doll chip with close patient monitoring and anesthesia. However, Judy says that Evelyn can’t move and it would be better to examine her at home... and Lucy agrees to come and even finds an open slot in her schedule... And you know perfectly well what happens next: Evelyn is no longer with us; she’s in the columbarium.
Profit

 

[Fatalist]

And finally, the last thing I don’t like about this whole Judy business is V’s near-death experience underwater.

Here’s what might be going on: on the one hand, if Judy was really recording braindance, she might have been interested in a practically black ending—it would have made for an excellent black XBD that would fetch a high price on the black market.

On the other hand, if she was recording V’s behavioral imprint, they could have simply created the most emotionally charged ending possible (as Alex did in Black Sapphire), which is exactly where she had been consistently leading him all along.

Now, regarding V’s rescue: the area around the bay looks extremely remote and deserted; there’s no one nearby, let alone anyone scuba diving. No one can come to Judy’s aid. She has to drag V up from the depths alone, and slowly—otherwise, decompression sickness. And then V would come to not on the shore but in the hospital.

However, the problem is that after rescuing V, Judy doesn’t even look sweaty, let alone tired:

No, if for Judy, such feats of pulling drowning people from the bottom of the bay are a routine matter, fine—(really, how many Clouds dolls she might have drowned in her attempts to film the right scene is beyond comprehension)—but that’s another story.

If, however, the situation is truly extraordinary, then I see no other way to resolve it except for a quick-arriving airlift—much like Solomon Reed’s at the Orbital Air landing pad in that famous scene.

And then… it could have been anyone—Arasaka, NCPD, FIA, Trauma Team…
And I don't even want to think about who's hiding behind the guise of “Judy's Grandma”

 

[Fatalist]

A few words about Panam Palmer:

I have nothing against her, and the thought that crossed my mind is neutral.
But just think about it:

What else, besides differing views with Saul on the future of the Aldecaldos clan and a desire to prove herself within the family, could have been behind the argument between Panam and Saul?

There’s one interesting episode, in my opinion, after V and Panam rescue Saul from Raffin Shiv’s clutches.
At an abandoned farm, tired of arguing with Panam, Saul walks away and says he wants to sleep.
Panam: “Do you need help?”

Meaning, if Saul had agreed, they would have slept together in the next room—and there wouldn’t have been that heart-wrenching scene at the Free California Hotel to the sound of the habub, when Panam puts her feet on V.
In this scenario, Panam and Saul would be doing something else in the next room )), as apparently happened more than once before.

Thus, I suspect that behind Panam’s maximalist rebellion might have been a heated and traumatic lovers’ quarrel—that is, Panam was Saul’s girlfriend, but… something went wrong. And the attempt to drag V into the clan’s life is Panam’s attempt at emotional crisis management, with far-reaching consequences.

Of course, the game doesn't provide any information about Saul's personal life, so to speak, before and after the “Panam period.”
However, in the final showdown following the theft of the “Basilisk,” Saul isn't alone when he confronts Panam—he's accompanied by two armed women from the Aldecaldos. Two of his closest allies (!)

Well, I don’t know. ))) Even if I’m right, there’s no accounting for taste, of course. )