Well, here I guess that is the main difference "reading" the sun. You would agree for a suicide mission if you are already dead and want to be remembered for ages.
Could be, but still don´t think MBE is really a necessity for a follow-up (does he show in any other end?, or is Peralez/Gary the prophet quest a requirement for any end?,I didn´t try all possible combination of side contents and endings) and is more a reference to Armitage in Neuromancer.
The thing is though, that not every player picked glory, fame and money as their main goal and I doubt that CDPR isn't aware of that. Most people I saw picked Rogue's route or the solo run because they didn't want to sacrifice anyone, didn't want to make a deal with the enemy, didn't want to risk losing Panam/the Aldecaldos or simply didn't care about them. Even Johnny uses all those arguments so why shouldn't CDPR be aware of their own words that gets repeated again and again during the whole game? Choosing Rogue or going solo doesn't necessarily mean you want to be remembered or become something even bigger then a legend. Some players just want to find a way to survive whilst others want to spend their remaining time amongst their family, friends and partner.
But no matter what your personal goal is the game leads us into space to that one last mission. Why? In The Devil ending you have the option to go back to earth and die "in peace" amongst your loved one(s). In a way you also get a peaceful "end" in The Star ending because if you fail you at least spent your remaining months with your new family. But in The Sun ending you don't get that choice. Why? V even gives a promise to their LI (at least in Kerry's case, don't know about the others) to come back alive and the player doesn't get any choice in that matter. Why? Again, for a V in The Sun ending keeping a promise seems to be really important for them so just giving it without any intentions of keeping it doesn't make sense.
Placing Mr. B into the Peralez story out of all jobs you have in this game doesn't seem like a coincidence to me. And you make a deal with him no matter if you saw him or not which should be considered as well. I mean, if you saw him shouldn't one of the first thoughts of V be whether or not Mr. B might be one of THEM and accepting a deal with Mr. B might be worse than just accepting their own death? Mr. B's end of the deal was the client data of the casino if I remember correctly so did V never think about the fact that he might give Mr. B a list with people that are strategically good to control just like Mr. Peralez (V included)? And yet, V still makes a deal with him and doesn't seem bothered by it... or at least not anymore. Even if you never saw him before, maybe you met Gary and you remember that after he vanished men in black suits with blue eyes got mentioned as well. And still, even if you haven't seen either of them, V agrees to a deal this big with someone no one knows anything about. It could be a trap and maybe V thought so in the beginning as well but suddenly they give in.
Now, if for example you played the solo ending mainly so that no one dies (except for yourself if worst comes to worst) suddenly selling out a lot of people to someone who maybe hasn't the best intentions with them doesn't seem logical to me.
Again, V is not stupid and despite all we know, despite what our motivations might be (whether it's glory, family, friends, the partner or just to survive) and despite all those circumstances that normally should be a red flag for V we have nothing to say here. That tells me, they know what they are doing and we should just trust them. Yes, maybe they have nothing to gain and nothing to lose, but gaining something is not what V is after anyway - V is talking about a bargain.
Yeah, whatever the intended message was, in the game I never got the impression that NC was an unlivable shithole that no one can thrive in. Just a violent and chaotic city that usually takes more than it can offer, more similar to GTA Los Santos and Saints Row 1-2 Stillwater than, say, Kowloon in Shadowrun Hong Kong.
True, totally agree with you,
@Soykaff and
@rippercityransom that players shouldn't be punished just because they found their happiness in the city. A city that you helped for hours (over 200 in my case), found a lot of friends and acquaintances in, maybe a family and a partner. If you are a Streetkid you grew up in the city but suddenly you are not able to handle yourself anymore? As a legend and king of the Afterlife with a lot of backup? Sorry but that makes no sense for me...
