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[Spoiler Alert] About the endings

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Do you want more RPGs with happy endings?

  • Yes, I miss happy endings.

    Votes: 411 45.0%
  • No, I am content with the endings currently offered.

    Votes: 84 9.2%
  • I think that the option should be available for those who want it.

    Votes: 269 29.4%
  • It’s more complicated than that.

    Votes: 150 16.4%

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Martynxas

Martynxas

Forum regular
#2,141
Dec 17, 2020
Simuxas said:
Because more than half of people are not even able to play or finish the game because of the technical issues.
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Nah, biggest outrage is bugs, from what ive seen in YouTube, most people did enjoyed storyline
 
Juggernatth

Juggernatth

Fresh user
#2,142
Dec 17, 2020
I just wanted to save V, and Jhonny if it was possible, but I ended killing them both, felt really bad:cry:
 
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Nekatinyz

Nekatinyz

Forum regular
#2,143
Dec 17, 2020
Ramzah said:
Guess i'm one of the only 13 ppl happy with the current endings.. I've read through most comments in here and a lot of people argue that in the end no matter what you do, V dies so everything to that point is meaningless.
I disagree, first of all the premise of the story is that "there are no live legends", you have to die "possibly in a spectacular way, best if on a job" to get a drink named after you in the afterlife, that's one thing that might drive some people.
But after thinking for a while, didn't V die in the heist? (i might be mistaken here but from what i understood, V died due to Dex shooting us in the head and Viktor says the chip repaired our brain and started "overwriting", thus bringing us back) so technically V being an engram copy or not, doesn't change the fact that V died in the beginning and might already have lost his/her "soul". Also some might argue 6 months are a lot of time to come to terms with the fact that V is gonna die, plenty of time to do w/e. In the ending with Panam it's also hinted that they could travel and find some specialist to help V together.
Altho i prefer it that way because to me, it makes sense there's no happy ending in night city.
Personally i liked it and i can understand it might not be to everyone's taste, but that's no reason to hate so much on the devs.
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I agree with you
I don't care about the loss of soul etc I only see the fact that this is not the same that V in the beginning, only in the end with the nomads, she mentally grew up, realized his mistake and decided not to give everything in the hands of a terrorist in his head and solve the problem by myself, with friends who want to help her, realized that to be a legend in this city or just does not make sense or is stupid and impossible, it's not V is a person who realized that you can't get everything at once and changed and it's all about Ctrl+v and the loss of soul, it's just the plot because this is one of the main issues of the genre, in such a future, is it possible to remain human?
And once again I will explain why the version about the clone V is full of crap, we see the whole game from the 1st person, in the end we see how V GOES into cyberspace to alt, as in all moments before, and then returns to the body, it's still the same character.
Also V has 6 months to heal, guys We were all told that the chip can not be pulled out without killing you, and then the red woman says and the doctor from AROSAKA, it is doubtful
Thats all i wanted to say
 
Kikinho

Kikinho

Senior user
#2,144
Dec 17, 2020
Martynxas said:
Im highly sceptical, but we having nothing to lose if way add something, everyone wins i guess
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Exactly. I just want the ending adjusted so I can find motivation again to dive back into NC.
 
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MandyZGaming

MandyZGaming

Forum regular
#2,145
Dec 17, 2020
Simuxas said:
No need to modify them at all, just few simple changes in the dialogue at the end, depending on your choices in current sidequest and tarot card %.
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do those tarot graffittis really have an impact on the outcome?
 
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Melra

Melra

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#2,146
Dec 17, 2020
Martynxas said:
Agree. Thats why i say, that Johnny ending is best one, it feels more fitting for him to finish the story then V
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Except it makes little sense to consider that a happy one. Why should the player care about a character that for a good portion of the story was abusive towards the main character and is simply a total douche in general? If I had my way, I'd be having braindances made of his torture. :p
 
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Simuxas

Simuxas

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#2,147
Dec 17, 2020
MandyZGaming said:
do those tarot graffittis really have an impact on the outcome?
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Nope, nada. Gives false sense of rush I guess.
 
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Buckadoz

Buckadoz

Forum regular
#2,148
Dec 17, 2020
BigCat1223 said:
the ending where Johnny and Rouge riding off is kinda sweet. they got their happy ending.
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I don't know, man, I feel like that's how they expect you to feel, but the whole thing just feels completely violating to V. I truly think letting Johnny have the body is the worst ending, in a deeply repulsive sense; I think shooting yourself is preferable but I don't think I'm "supposed" to think that. Hell my skin crawls when Alt says you'll die if you go back to the body because "The body is Johnny's."
 
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Kikinho

Kikinho

Senior user
#2,149
Dec 17, 2020
Da0827 said:
I've got to give credit where credit is due... I've been listening to the soundtrack in the last couple of days and it brings back the feelings of the moment perfectly. That only happens when a scene is powerful enough, which is something to strive for.

I didn't feel mad for getting a bad ending, that's part of the game and I messed up. The same happened in my first Witcher 3 playthrough.
No problem, time to fix things and give my V the good ending just like I gave Ciri. Except there's no ending for V as of now.
Most of them give room for redemption in the next entry, but do we really need such cliffhanger when the next game is years off at best?

In Witcher 3 you get a good ending for Ciri if you let her grow as a person. The message is clear: be there for her, but let her solve her own problems and grow confident.
In Cyberpunk 2077 the message is unclear for me as there's not one single preferable ending. You make a bunch of choices and pay a high price either way. Hard to conclude anything else than "life sucks".
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Totally with you. There is no lession learnt here. Life sucks and all your efforts are futile is not something i care to hear over and over again. Thus no desire to replay it.
If they wanted to make the cliffhangers for the DLCs, I feel they could have gonea better way about it.
 
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Nekatinyz

Nekatinyz

Forum regular
#2,150
Dec 17, 2020
Martynxas said:
Agree. Thats why i say, that Johnny ending is best one, it feels more fitting for him to finish the story then V
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The cyberpunk genre tells us that in such a future there are no heroes, Johnny tried to be one of them, blow up the Aposaki tower to fight the corporation (save alt) along the way killing 10,000 people, he paid for it, there is no place for heroes in this world
 
MandyZGaming

MandyZGaming

Forum regular
#2,151
Dec 17, 2020
Buckadoz said:
I don't know, man, I feel like that's how they expect you to feel, but the whole thing just feels completely violating to V. I truly think letting Johnny have the body is the worst ending, in a deeply repulsive sense; I think shooting yourself is preferable but I don't think I'm "supposed" to think that.
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better than let that arse of cancer live as you
 
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tRYSIS3

tRYSIS3

Forum regular
#2,152
Dec 17, 2020
Simuxas said:
No need to modify them at all, just few simple changes in the dialogue at the end, depending on your choices in current sidequest and tarot card %.
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Johnny appears in many of the side quests, and is referenced in others, how would you explain him being still visible in those missions if you remove him successfully at the end?
 
Martynxas

Martynxas

Forum regular
#2,153
Dec 17, 2020
Melra said:
Except it makes little sense to consider that a happy one. Why should the player care about a character that for a good portion of the story was abusive towards the main character and is simply a total douche in general? If I had my way, I'd be having braindances made of his torture. :p
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Well, you have to consider his situation too, dude got royally fucked by corpo and suddenly you wake up 50 years later in some kind of body. And it makes interesting character progression when you transform it from hostile to friendly
 
Kikinho

Kikinho

Senior user
#2,154
Dec 17, 2020
Martynxas said:
Well, you have to consider his situation too, dude got royally fucked by corpo and suddenly you wake up 50 years later in some kind of body. And it makes interesting character progression when you transform it from hostile to friendly
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Then make us play Jhonny from the getgo and tell a story Witcher style. Giving us a semi custome character only to become the sidecharacter is wierd and wrong.


Edit:Hell... you could even explore a even more interesting moral question imo. Do you keep your selfish desires and die a second time, taking a fool sod with you? Or you learn that your effort are futile and sacrafice yourself to save someone who just got dragged into this.
 
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Simuxas

Simuxas

Senior user
#2,155
Dec 17, 2020
tRYSIS3 said:
Johnny appears in many of the side quests, and is referenced in others, how would you explain him being still visible in those missions if you remove him successfully at the end?
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It is practicly the same, everything is the same as it is now, just few dialogue changes right at the end. It wouldnn't affect side missions at all.
 
Nekatinyz

Nekatinyz

Forum regular
#2,156
Dec 17, 2020
Simuxas said:
Another way of fixing things up, pretty easy, without many changes in some endings.
1. Arasaka space station. You fought for Arasaka, sided with the devil, if you had low death % on tarot card, they do the surgery. Then you continue to do those tests but you keep getting better and finally Takemura says that you are healing up and free to return to the city, bam, fixed. If you had high % of death tarot card, they do the surgery and then say you are going to die or go to Mikoshi. Here you go, wanna do some more sidequests of characters that not gonna matter when you get healed (Rogue, Johnnys), if you do them, you will be out of time, here, a choice. People who want to continue, can go back in the city doing gigs and possible some side missions.

2.Aldecado ending. Could be quite similar, depending on % of Samurai card and Death card could be these options:
You give body to Johnny because you are out of time and you Will die in 6 months. Or you dont give the body, and then you go away with Aldecados with 6 months to live.
You made it in time, Johnny is sent into the net with Alt and you get fixed with Soulkiller. The catch is, there should be not much mentioned about what soulkiller does, let it be ambiguous as hell also remove the 6 month timer. Then you leave the city with your love interest but game could ask you, do you want to return to the NC. This ending would be the gray one, where you would have to question, is it a real V or a copy of V. Here, Done, only few dialogue changes.

3. The attack on Arasaka tower with Rogue. Could also be depended on tarrot cards. Would be similar to Aldecado ending honestly though. But aproach would be much different I guess. Except you don't leave the city. And there is no question if it is V or clone of V. Or it could stay as it is, didn't put much into this cuz doesn't seem like one of the more interesting ones. Become a legend, oh yeah, sounds rly interesting.
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Because Witcher 3 is based on the books :shrug: And you play as Geralt in 3rd person, means you are mostly leading him in his adventure rather than living it.
And CB2077 is a made up story by writers.
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If you leave city with aldecaldos you already a legend of night city, you attacked arosakas tower lol
Why not to become a legend of all america?
 
Melra

Melra

Fresh user
#2,157
Dec 17, 2020
Martynxas said:
Well, you have to consider his situation too, dude got royally fucked by corpo and suddenly you wake up 50 years later in some kind of body. And it makes interesting character progression when you transform it from hostile to friendly
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Not really, it doesn't excuse letting it out on everyone else, not to mention he was seemingly like this for the whole way through. Even how he treats his partners is nasty, there are really no redeeming qualities and I certainly didn't play the game to have my character be sidelined by a character like this.
 
Buckadoz

Buckadoz

Forum regular
#2,158
Dec 17, 2020
MandyZGaming said:
better than let that arse of cancer live as you
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I don't even hate Johnny as a person. Just... becoming someone else, them taking over and living as you, is one of the worst fates I can imagine for a person.
 
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Superant19

Superant19

Fresh user
#2,159
Dec 17, 2020
The endings pretty much summarize how shitty their game development went. No wonder they cut 70% of the games content that was supposed to be in it. They knew how shitty the game was going to play, they lied to everyone and don't even own up to their terrible decisions. I'm glad I stopped playing after 55 hours and read this thread. I won't be playing this game ever again unless they add all the content they cut and add more ending choices for replay ability and happy ones. The fact that the "Engram" rewrite your brain no matter what is stupid. The fact that you can't fix that our change it is dumb, It's CODING. It's not a living organism. Lazy game development, lazy writing. Just wish I could get my refund, but that's impossible since I bought the game through steam. I'll never buy CDPR games until after I see how terrible they turn out.
 
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Simuxas

Simuxas

Senior user
#2,160
Dec 17, 2020
Nekatinyz said:
If you leave city with aldecaldos you already a legend of night city, you attacked arosakas tower lol
Why not to become a legend of all america?
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:shrug:
Well you don't really become a legend, since you do it with Aldecados and not with legendary Rogue who can spread the word.
 
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