With this point i agree. Ive said in several post, that V has no role in CP, johhny has way better story and how it wraps up with rogue, just fits perfectly. I would liked bigger role of V if were to change something
If anyone, then it was jhonny who should be making sacrafices for redmption.
How is it fitting for Johnny to get a happy ending?
The man died already -- it's not even the real Johnny, it's a copy of him if you go by the game's rules, he did change in the end but even he says he will not betray V and wants V to fight on, he is content with dying on.
Not to mention he did terrible things, apparently the same people that say Cyberpunk is a dark setting without hope are the same people that say a terrorist copy of a dude that died in his last hurrah deserves a better ending than just a guy trying to stay alive and take care of his own folks?
What is this backwards logic?
Night city sucks)) my opinion
Well you don't really become a legend, since you do it with Aldecados and not with legendary Rogue who can spread the word.
Trying to become a legend cost V everything
I feel like a lot of people are rooting for Johnny simply because its Keanu.
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V doesn't really want to be a legend in the first place, Jackie does and then the game pretends that V wanted to become a legend.
Erm, yes. in the path with Rogue, Rogue is killed by Smasher. So her spreading word isn´t possible
Well you don't really become a legend, since you do it with Aldecados and not with legendary Rogue who can spread the word.
Again, I would be 100% happy with my ending, or any other if we would get closure and there would be a lession in the end. But the 6 month into the sunset is too vague to leave a satisfying ending. Especially if you are being loaded back into a previous quicksave. like what? I'm suppose to say farewell to my character but here you run around with him pointlessly still?
If you had good relationship with johny, he saying that if he need to die to save you, he will do it
Ah right, well still, everyone in Afterlife know that rogue went to take Arasaka tower.
And even then you become a legend in some old ass Club.
Don't think you are getting what I'm saying, take the Judy mission for example, when you go diving with her, Johnny shows up and asks you to "not get in the water". Well if you don't complete that mission and decide to do it after the ending when you successfully remove him from your head. How are you going to explain Johnny still being involved in that mission after the fact?
As I mentioned before, some of those side missions would not be available after you finish the game. Since let's say you rushed as much as possible to save yourself, but in the process you didn't experience as much.
Genuinely the people that spout the "no hope" nonsense complete ignore the Johnny endings! He was a rotten person that had his life taken away already, he let people die because of him and for him, he changes by the end but that's not even the really Johnny. And he deserves a happier ending than V, an ending with hope?!
Did you not play the same game we did?! You spend half of your playtime helping people in need, saving lives and making things better for most people you encounter! You give people hope and change things for the better.
This "no hope" cyberpunk setting bullshit argument must be the worst I've heard so far in the thread, atleast other people that disagree have their own valid viewpoints.
Did you not play the same game we did?! You spend half of your playtime helping people in need, saving lives and making things better for most people you encounter! You give people hope and change things for the better.
This "no hope" cyberpunk setting bullshit argument must be the worst I've heard so far in the thread, atleast other people that disagree have their own valid viewpoints.
Yup you are right, but night city sucks))I feel like a lot of people are rooting for Johnny simply because its Keanu.
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V doesn't really want to be a legend in the first place, Jackie does and then the game pretends that V wanted to become a legend.
He does 180 by the end of game, noted by characters that V was good influence, saved her multiple times. Also he is very regretful by taking V body, but that probably changes depending how you treated him. If you think there was no redeemable qualities, then its best to agree to disagree
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Johnny agree with it too, thats why hes very regretful by taking V body
Yeah, we ourselves are literally the hope for almost everyone around us. Why would we have to go against our own hope? And people who argue there i no hope in cyberpunk, that is definitely not the message the game is telling you throughout the game.
So by this logic, if someone in real life murders 20 people, still should get a second chance in life just because they got bit nicer?
After the first side quest where you let Johnny take over, you head out to the junkyard to try to find where his body is. If you're on good terms with Johnny, you can scratch a grave marker for him into some scrap metal, and he eventually launches into a monologue about how his time with you has changed him, and he's now prepared to help you save yourself in anyway he can, including being prepared to step down and stop existing when it finally comes to it. It's an interesting moment contrasted with his original meeting, where he throws you around and threatens to kill you.
The whole time he's standing directly on top of one of the many graffiti'd NO FUTURE signs all over NC.
I think this moment summarizes the game.
I would a while, we dont know whats gonna be in dlc's. I wonder if we play completely diffrent character