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Do you want more RPGs with happy endings?

  • Yes, I miss happy endings.

    Votes: 411 45.0%
  • No, I am content with the endings currently offered.

    Votes: 84 9.2%
  • I think that the option should be available for those who want it.

    Votes: 269 29.4%
  • It’s more complicated than that.

    Votes: 150 16.4%

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Nekatinyz

Nekatinyz

Forum regular
#2,201
Dec 17, 2020
HonestBenny said:
Strawman argument here, but I will play anyway.

Because the main trope/story of Witcher is Geralt finding Ciri. This is the main story driver.

The main story trope of Cyberpunk 2077 is getting rid of Biochip/damage it does to you/survive it. This is the main story driver here.

Now, Witcher endings offer the following outcomes of your main strory Driver

1. Cirit dies. The bad one
2. Cirit lives but becomes the Empress. The middle one. Bittersweet.
3. Ciri lives, becomes witcher and is happy. The happy one. Sweet

So we have bad one, middle one and happy one. Fairly balanced. A good design.

Now let's take a look at Cyberpunk 2077 endings for it's main story driver:

1. V dies before final mission.
2. V dies during final mission.
3. V dies 6 months after final mission.
4. V dies during final mission but Jhonny lives (who is main reason you are dying through game)
5. V dies after final mission by Jhonny is united with Alt (so he gets his good end, but V does not)
6. Another version of above.

So..... see the difference?

And don't start at "Because Cyberpunk is dark, hur dur" becasue Witcher universe if you read books is as dark and unfair as Cyberpunk one. Yet you can get happy end.

Bah, 3 endings of Witcher provides wider variety than 6 endings of CP.
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When v have 6 moths its not 100% death, we have a chance, i dont think dlc will be side quest before the final mission
 
MandyZGaming

MandyZGaming

Forum regular
#2,202
Dec 17, 2020
Simuxas said:
New game+ makes no sense in this kind of RPG, it's not like it unlocks something that we can't get in the first game, like Dark Souls or Dishonored.
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But it would here. Because it won´t set back relationships you have. you don´t get dragged back to story point you don´t want to play more than once. so I disagree.
 
Simuxas

Simuxas

Senior user
#2,203
Dec 17, 2020
MandyZGaming said:
But it would here. Because it won´t set back relationships you have. you don´t get dragged back to story point you don´t want to play more than once. so I disagree.
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New game + means you start over, but with all items you posses from previous playthrough. There just needs to be a way to make V live and go back to the city. Then it could be expanded to more side stories with dlcs, maybe new less gritty adventure.
 
Cologan

Cologan

Fresh user
#2,204
Dec 17, 2020
let me recap that a good 90% of people in this thread see mid-game DLCs as pointless without further expanding the endings & playability AFTER the ending WITHOUT save-scumming.
 
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kaz_ds

kaz_ds

Forum regular
#2,205
Dec 17, 2020
HonestBenny said:
Strawman argument here, but I will play anyway.

Because the main trope/story of Witcher is Geralt finding Ciri. This is the main story driver.

The main story trope of Cyberpunk 2077 is getting rid of Biochip/damage it does to you/survive it. This is the main story driver here.

Now, Witcher endings offer the following outcomes of your main strory Driver

1. Cirit dies. The bad one
2. Cirit lives but becomes the Empress. The middle one. Bittersweet.
3. Ciri lives, becomes witcher and is happy. The happy one. Sweet

So we have bad one, middle one and happy one. Fairly balanced. A good design.

Now let's take a look at Cyberpunk 2077 endings for it's main story driver:

1. V dies before final mission.
2. V dies during final mission.
3. V dies 6 months after final mission.
4. V dies during final mission but Jhonny lives (who is main reason you are dying through game)
5. V dies after final mission by Jhonny is united with Alt (so he gets his good end, but V does not)
6. Another version of above.

So..... see the difference?

And don't start at "Because Cyberpunk is dark, hur dur" becasue Witcher universe if you read books is as dark and unfair as Cyberpunk one. Yet you can get happy end.

Bah, 3 endings of Witcher provides wider variety than 6 endings of CP.
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Well said, this is the main issue with the game for me like I keep repeating. The whole main quest is pointless, there is no difference to what you do because the outcome is the same. You just get 7 different flavors of the same shit. There is no other motive to push on as V if you know you are going to die regardless, all you get for fighting on is a few holocalls.

Some people might say you "become a legend" or "get to spend the rest of your time with family" but in reality we don't get to experience that at all. For us the story ends the moment we decide between Johnny or us. And like some said, it really does seem like CPDR wanted you to give Johnny another chance - so much for "cyberpunk darkness".
 
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MandyZGaming

MandyZGaming

Forum regular
#2,206
Dec 17, 2020
Simuxas said:
New game + means you start over, but with all items you posses from previous playthrough. There just needs to be a way to make V live and go back to the city. Then it could be expanded to more side stories with dlcs, maybe new less gritty adventure.
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ah sorry my bad, you´re right. We need a continuation of the game. But all those endings we currently have, I kinda doubt there could be much positives to add to those. we need new ones, that we could build up on.
 
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Simuxas

Simuxas

Senior user
#2,207
Dec 17, 2020
kaz_ds said:
Well said, this is the main issue with the game for me like I keep repeating. The whole main quest is pointless, there is no difference to what you do because the outcome is the same. You just get 7 different flavors of the same shit. There is no other motive to push on as V if you know you are going to die regardless, all you get for fighting on is a few holocalls.
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And death, don't forget that.
 
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BGM45

BGM45

Forum regular
#2,208
Dec 17, 2020
HonestBenny said:
And don't start at "Because Cyberpunk is dark, hur dur" becasue Witcher universe if you read books is as dark and unfair as Cyberpunk one. Yet you can get happy end.
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I would argue it's as dark as cyberpunk, but it's far more subversive and self-aware. one of my all-time favourite things from the books, the thing I liked the most even when reading it as a kid, is the fact that Nilfgaard isn't some one-note evil empire. it starts like that in the first two books in short storied, but then our lord and savior Emhyr swags into the throne room, puts his legs on the armrests of his throne, and proceeds to evolve as a person throughout the saga, having, in the end, an arc better than some MCs get in worse stories, taking his country with him on this quest.

here, at least in this thread, we keep hearing about how dark everything should be, how corporations are the absolute bad guys and how there is only one way to go because it's a tragedy and V, supposedly, is a bad person who deserves their suffering, like we shouldn't challenge the trops and canons for some reason. how do they not cut themselves in the morning on so much edge?
 
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MandyZGaming

MandyZGaming

Forum regular
#2,209
Dec 17, 2020
MandyZGaming said:
ah sorry my bad, you´re right. We need a continuation of the game. But all those endings we currently have, I kinda doubt there could be much positives to add to those. we need new ones, that we could build up on.
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Like River says in the nomad ending, when he says he can´t come with you because of his family. that he feels he would run away from his responsibility to take care of them. And so he implements, that I run away and try to ignore my fate instead of finding a solution.
 
Kikinho

Kikinho

Senior user
#2,210
Dec 17, 2020
Simuxas said:
New game+ makes no sense in this kind of RPG, it's not like it unlocks something that we can't get in the first game, like Dark Souls or Dishonored.
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Personally for me it would still give a certain sense of continuation/progress. Instead of just giving back my chewed up V with a guillotine above his head.
 
MeinChurro

MeinChurro

Forum regular
#2,211
Dec 17, 2020
Cologan said:
let me recap that a good 90% of people in this thread see mid-game DLCs as pointless without further expanding the endings & playability AFTER the ending WITHOUT save-scumming.
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I think many will be disappointed - at least initially. If they stick to what they said (at least if I am remembering right) we will get Witcher style DLC. So, a mid-game dlc (hearts of stone), and an expansion style dlc (blood and wine). Blood and Wine did expand and conclude Geralt's story. Properly done a mid-game dlc done right could fix this in many ways, though the easiest would be an additional ending.
 
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Simuxas

Simuxas

Senior user
#2,212
Dec 17, 2020
Kikinho said:
Personally for me it would still give a certain sense of continuation/progress. Instead of just giving back my chewed up V with a guillotine above his head.
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Starting over same story in new game +? Just being more op?
And still not being able to change anything. Ughhh...
 
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MandyZGaming

MandyZGaming

Forum regular
#2,213
Dec 17, 2020
I want an ending that V survives and can keep her/his relationship alive. I would like for the post ending game to be in the open world, you can still do jobs and gigs and maybe interact with your loved one regularly. gonna go eat something, drink some shots together, do jobs together and yes also have some more sex with them as that is a part of a relationship. These characters among the main character need to be important!!! right now the only importance seems to be Johnny Silverhand, who at least 80% of the people here despise to core of their being.
 
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Master_Plot

Master_Plot

Forum regular
#2,214
Dec 17, 2020
MeinChurro said:
I think many will be disappointed - at least initially. If they stick to what they said (at least if I am remembering right) we will get Witcher style DLC. So, a mid-game dlc (hearts of stone), and an expansion style dlc (blood and wine). Blood and Wine did expand and conclude Geralt's story. Properly done a mid-game dlc done right could fix this in many ways, though the easiest would be an additional ending.
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Exactly, I am waiting for a Blood and Wine type of DLC for V's story, I don't see myself starting over with a completely new character in a side story.
 
Simuxas

Simuxas

Senior user
#2,215
Dec 17, 2020
Master_Plot said:
Exactly, I am waiting for a Blood and Wine type of DLC for V's story, I don't see myself starting over with a completely new character in a side story.
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Imagine, if we would get Johnny's story.:giveup:
 
MandyZGaming

MandyZGaming

Forum regular
#2,216
Dec 17, 2020
Simuxas said:
Imagine, if we would get Johnny's story.:giveup:
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Death of the game for good! Fuck Johnny!!! Fuck Keanu!!!! don´t want you jack!!!
 
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Martynxas

Martynxas

Forum regular
#2,217
Dec 17, 2020
There is a lot to explore with dlc. My biggest enjoyment would be taking down alt, bitch thinks shes some kind of allmighty amd shes definetelly has some dark scheme up her ass
 
RayBotty

RayBotty

Forum regular
#2,218
Dec 17, 2020
kaz_ds said:
Well said, this is the main issue with the game for me like I keep repeating. The whole main quest is pointless, there is no difference to what you do because the outcome is the same. You just get 7 different flavors of the same shit. There is no other motive to push on as V if you know you are going to die regardless, all you get for fighting on is a few holocalls.

Some people might say you "become a legend" or "get to spend the rest of your time with family" but in reality we don't get to experience that at all. For us the story ends the moment we decide between Johnny or us. And like some said, it really does seem like CPDR wanted you to give Johnny another chance - so much for "cyberpunk darkness".
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Hence why earlier I got the feeling that the story might be based on CP2020 fan fiction. It really does seem like V being condemned to a slow death is something that was added for the express purpose of pushing players towards the 'choice' of letting Johnny have V's body.
 
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papplaus

papplaus

Fresh user
#2,219
Dec 17, 2020
Riddle me this: If (prototype) engram-tech was already available to Arasaka in 2023, when Johnny died, why did Saburo have no protocol in place to get engrammed upon his (in '77 somewhat purely biologically imminent) demise – with the engram immediately spilling the beans as to the cause of his actually unnatural death? You mean to tell me there's ads for "Secure Your Soul" all over the place – if only for the high & mighty – and the grand corporate kingpin himself is just being left for dead?

It makes no sense, right? Par for this course, I suppose...
 
Master_Plot

Master_Plot

Forum regular
#2,220
Dec 17, 2020
Simuxas said:
Imagine, if we would get Johnny's story.:giveup:
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Well in my first playthrough I finished alive as Johnny in V's body, then he leaves NC,
so could be somewhere else with him, I'd be fine with that, it would still be a continuity of the same story.
 
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