[Spoiler Alert] About the endings

[DarkTl]

and in all these endings, none of the choices you've made before really matter. there is a reason why people (me included) were so fervent about indoctrination theory - because at least it gave some meaning to what transpired. it was, you could say, our last choice in how the story really ends.

Let's hope Bioware will actually follow this theory in rumored ME4

I think the fact that a lot of u are so emotional about the endings actually is proof of how good the game is.

I literally cried after beating Persona 3, but loved the story nevertheless.
Because its writers did everything humanly possible to make MC death look worthwhile. Which is, sadly, not the case in CP.

 

[Vejsa]

I think the fact that a lot of u are so emotional about the endings actually is proof of how good the game is.

No, we're emotional because it wasn't set up in a way that made it impactful. We are mostly sad because the game fucks itself over last minute with no setup for this to happen.

 

[BGM45]

Let's hope Bioware will actually follow this theory in rumored ME4

damn, yeah. it might be a very premature celebration (for all we know "the next ME" could be a coop with Liara speaking during debrief before matches), but it feels good to be vindicated almost a decade later.

also, on the topic of being emotional about an ending - people were VERY emotional about Danganronpa V3's ending and it has absolutely nothing to do with how good the game is or how deeply it impacts the player (in my humble opinion, it doesn't have an impact at all). Kodaka didn't even bother to hide the fact that he went all out on destroying the series because he didn't want to make another game, and people felt it.

there is an argument to be made about the author always knowing best, but it's not a book we are talking about here, or even a classic linear game. the mere illusion of choice is worse than no choice at all because of how inherently dishonest it is (and for years honesty has been CDPR's, like, most notable feature).

 

[Providur]

I played for 20 hours now, and really loved almost every moment of it.
Few hours ago i accidentally read ending spoilers and i lost all motivation to finish the game.
All excitment for expansions and dlc evaporated.
After Mass Effect 3 debacle who the f*** thought that dying no matter what you do is a good ending.
I generally love replaying RPGs (finished Witcher 3 at least 5 times), but i dont think i will even finish this current playthrough of CP2077.

 

[AKANexus]

I'm no writer, but I can think of a bunch of "unhappy endings" that are totally different from "YOU ARE DEAD".

- V trusts Arasaka. They say they will remove the Relic from V. They do so, but V's mind is so far gone that Arasaka has no other way to restore V's mind other than to hard reset her. V gets a fresh start free from any binds she ever had, leaving V's lover, friends and life behind. Depending on some life choices, V's mind is so far gone that Arasaka, rathen than reset her, implant her with a new construct. One that will do Arasaka's bidding with no questions asked. V is then used as a pawn to rid Night City of any competition against Arasaka, including V's friends.

- V lets Johnny and Rogue bust Arasaka. Alt manages to remove Johnny's construct from V's mind. But Rogue has once again grown fond of Johnny, and blames V for killing him this time. She sets all her contacts and mercs on a manhunt against V for killing Johnny, making V a fugitive. If V managed to form a lasting relationship with a lover, they will help V skip town and live their lives as Nomads, away from Rogue, always living in fear of her. If V has no lover, V's left alone in Night City, and, while planning the next move on a motel, someone knocks at the door. V asks "Who's there?", and hears a familiar voice. When opening the door V gets hit by a sniper bullet. Rogue is on a nearby roof, reloading her rifle.

- (The infamous good ending) V decides she doesn't want to bring anyone with her to Arasaka. V decides to let Johnny take over their body to let him finish off Arasaka one last time. The player controls Johnny in V's body, but with V's construct appearing once in a while like Johnny did (V would be wearing their initial clothes set), talking to him and so on. When V's construct appears, the player selects the voice lines, and Johnny replies. When Johnny finally destroys Arasaka's servers, all that's left is Mikoshi. Johnny asks Alt for help to destroy it, and both Johnny and Alt get sent to the cyberspace and destroy Mikoshi from inside out. Finishing off what Johnny had left unfinished, as well as finally reuniting with Alt turns Johnny's construct harmless, and V's mind is restored fully. V has only a little time to flee from the crumbling Arasaka tower, while Johnny and Alt share one last song as they corrupt Mikoshi and the Cyberspace.
EDIT- Since Alt's construct is no longer the Alt Johnny knew, Johnny might want to be sent to the Cyberspace because he believes by interacting directly with this Alt's construct, he might be able to restore his Alt, as he knew, so he has a reason to sacrifice himself.

There... Did those in like..... 15 minutes?

The "Where's my mind" ending could be different as well.

- V wakes up at the Arasaka station. They do their tests and everything. V starts getting restless. Demands to leave the station, and contact their friends. With some reluctance, they allow V to holo either their lover or their friends. They all act on a weird way. V tells their friends that they want to leave the station as soon as possible. V tells their friends that they miss them and can't stand any more tests. But their friends still act weird, as in they wouldn't know what to say. The tests continue, and eventually, V breaks down and trashes their room, demanding to speak to Hanako. When she finally answers, she decides it was about time to tell V the truth. The construct was successfully removed, and V's construct was successfully repaired. And that V will live their happy life ever after with their friends and lover. However, V's construct had to be copied and restored to a new cloned body, and the V that survives is not you. You are the original, the one that's dying. Hanaka lets you holo V's lover and both the lover and the surviving V answer. (If V had no lover, then the surviving V is contacted) The lover/survivor then explains what happened, and that they are grateful for being alive, and sorry that you are dying, but there was nothing that could be done. You say goodbye to your lover/survivor, and spend the rest of your short life doing tests at the Arasaka lab.

 

[feckyer1ife]

How does future DLCs played/ build off the endings? The Story and the game don't match and the endings don't show me how we will have "Witcher 3 styled DLC expansions but More"? Too me the Main quest line with Johnny should've been the final story expansion.

 

[Providur]

How does future DLCs played/ build off the endings? The Story and the game don't match and the endings don't show me how we will have "Witcher 3 styled DLC expansions but More"? Too me the Main quest line with Johnny should've been the final story expansion.

Who knows, there is no info yet.
I hope they are set after the ending (or expand the ending somehow), then i will finish the game. If they are set before the ending and endings remain how they are now, then i will not touch them, which is a real shame because i really liked the game before being spoiled about endings.

 

[xxSkyy]

I'm also disappointed with endings. But I can't tell if all of them are really the bad ones?
Ending I did with Panam could be okay if DLC would provide good expansion of ending where you in that "last" 6 months finding solution for your problem.
Lets say you found someone who helped you clone your body and transfer your mind to new same body. After that something happens that you with Panam and crew come back to Night City. Anything.

The worst thing to me is that you can't play after ending it just loading you back to the place before last mission. So after I did things I though was okay and accepted it and then all came back like nothing happened. Thats disappointing,

Hope CD Projekt will expand those endings , so the ones when you left with half year of life would be expanded to new missions that will lead you to fixing your problem.

Some ideas:
Coming back from space station: Alt met in net someone who could help you with your DNA problem , he contacted you and you start new main storyline.

Leaving Night city with Panam: As above , you with your crew coming back to night city for chacne of life.

All I want from RED's is giving me chance to choose what I want , letting me live with/without people I want and allow me to play after ending.

 

[Ashii]

I really doubt we'll get any DLC or expansion that happens after the endings. CDPR would have to choose a canon one and I imagine some people would be equally pissed that their choices didn't matter either, so.... yeah. It's not happening.

 

[AKANexus]

I really doubt we'll get any DLC or expansion that happens after the endings. CDPR would have to choose a canon one and I imagine some people would be equally pissed that their choices didn't matter either, so.... yeah. It's not happening.

Either that, or they'll retcon the whole circus

 

[etmchk]

In this sad endings game, you can also make a couple of happy endings, for example, make an ending where Vee is still alive, and they are back together with Judy, seeing such endings, you get depressed, and you want a happy ending.I hope that you will listen to our opinion and make a Supplement with a good ending or a purely good ending.

 

[Ashii]

Either that, or they'll retcon the whole circus

As much as I want it, I don't see that happening either.

 

[Providur]

I really doubt we'll get any DLC or expansion that happens after the endings. CDPR would have to choose a canon one and I imagine some people would be equally pissed that their choices didn't matter either, so.... yeah. It's not happening.

They should at least release DLC which expands 6 months left ending.

 

[Ashii]

They should at least release DLC which expands 6 months left ending.

Unless we can find a cure in that DLC, then personally I'm not interesed in watching V die after these 6 months.

 

[Providur]

Unless we can find a cure in that DLC, then personally I'm not interesed in watching V die after these 6 months.

Finding a cure is what i meant, even though it's unlikely we will get that DLC.

 

[feckyer1ife]

They should at least release DLC which expands 6 months left ending.

How does that work though. Blood & wine flowed with any ending you got from The Wild hunt. For what you suggest everyone would have to get that ending. The game needs to be retcon, you wake up from a braindance to find it was all a dream

 

[AKANexus]

How does that work though. Blood & wine flowed with any ending you got from The Wild hunt. For what you suggest everyone would have to get that ending. The game needs to be retcon, you wake up from a braindance to find it was all a dream

If they ever use "It was all a dream" cliché, I'm never EVER purchasing anything from them anymore...

 

[xxSkyy]

Finding cure with any ending that leaves you with 6 months of life is one thing that'll make it full.
Other way to me they'll fvk up whole story for no reason imo

 

[Qaddis]

How does that work though. Blood & wine flowed with any ending you got from The Wild hunt. For what you suggest everyone would have to get that ending. The game needs to be retcon, you wake up from a braindance to find it was all a dream

LOL, why?

Some ideas:
Coming back from space station: Alt met in net someone who could help you with your DNA problem , he contacted you and you start new main storyline.

Leaving Night city with Panam: As above , you with your crew coming back to night city for chacne of life.

All I want from RED's is giving me chance to choose what I want , letting me live with/without people I want and allow me to play after ending.

See? This guy solved problem in 5 minutes. Its basic, but CDPR have writing team, that do this for a living. They should know how to handle it in awesome way in about 45mins on that first meeting.

 

[Cologan]

I think the fact that a lot of u are so emotional about the endings actually is proof of how good the game is.
I understand that you are sad after a sad ending, i have these feelings too, but that means that u were invested in the story and the characters.

i am not sad. i feel hollow and a little bit tricked. not the best you want players to feel after finishing your game. As ive mentioned before in this thread, at least one of the endings is "open enough" that their might be a happy end afterall. But its behind the curtains for now.