[Spoiler Alert] About the endings

[Barsenthor]

But living legend was Jackie’s idea. V hardly had any idea what s/he wants. Even Johnny said this that it was all about eddies for him/her and we can conclude that this was about Act 1 motivation. Maybe something about the legend after Dexter’s limo pep talk. Buts that it, in elevator scene V is like “fucking major league, happy now Jackie?!”.

The rest is about survival and it seams that survival at any costs.

isn’t this strange that default ending is with Arasaka? Panam is tricky to get, not only you need to do optional side quest they also have time limits, like wait day for next call. This is making that majority people doing just a speed runs will go with Arasaka ending.
not to mention that CDPR said that they shortened main story because people didn’t finish TW3 often.
maybe this is because that future expansions will take place after main quest?

 

[Simuxas]

But living legend was Jackie’s idea. V hardly had any idea what s/he wants. Even Johnny said this that it was all about eddies for him/her and we can conclude that this was about Act 1 motivation. Maybe something about the legend after Dexter’s limo pep talk. Buts that it, in elevator scene V is like “fucking major league, happy now Jackie?!”.

The rest is about survival and it seams that survival at any costs.

isn’t this strange that default ending is with Arasaka? Panam is tricky to get, not only you need to do optional side quest they also have time limits, like wait day for next call. This is making that majority people doing just a speed runs will go with Arasaka ending.
not to mention that CDPR said that they shortened main story because people didn’t finish TW3 often.
maybe this is because that future expansions will take place after main quest?

That might be the post probably one. Since you will always get that ending or well the suicide one.

 

[acakomandos]

Judy will be in dlc 90% most of people liked this character cery much, she has interesting story and character, BUT NOT IN ARASAKA ENDING WHERE SHE LEFT CITY BECAUSE YOU CANT ESCAPE FROM SPACE STATION FOR MORE THEN 2 WEEKS, NICE JUDY F@@k YOU

still thing its bug or smth like this, This scene doesn't fit in there in any way

I hope she will be. Writing of her character was amasing imo. We'll see if CDPR will deliver. And maybe save V

 

[tRYSIS3]

Those endings remind of the time I used to play UNO with my niece and prank her. I'd act like I was shuffling the cards, but in reality I know where the good cards are and where the bad ones are. I'd then give her the cards she's going to play with and after a few rounds she immediately realises that she's going to inevitably lose because somehow I have all the +4 and +2 cards.

The devs give you the choice to take Arasaka because it's supposed to be an option that's going to save you, but in reality you are doomed. You could think about those "6 months" as being "hope" but It'd be like my niece thinking she can win with the cards she have. Even, if you still wanna believe in that hope, well then, all your friends already left and there is nothing left for you to do in NC.

That's not good storytelling, it's just bait. A good twist was when I learned that Saburo was alive. The ending is not, it just left me confused and angry.

 

[It_Is_Eye]

I'm happy to re run for all endings, however, not until they fix the completion rewards for doing it.

when I finished my first playthrough I got no rewards and actually lost the levels and items I got while running the last long ass mission.

The nice orange clothing you get at the Panam ending before you head for the tunnel... Yup, all gone, along with the decent weapons I acquired and the two levels and perk points.

It's like the game just loads you back to an auto save before you jump in the lift and forgets you ever completed it, it says you have rewards but you have actually lost a crap ton of stuff. Pointless.

Not great.

 

[acakomandos]

Yes, if they don't already have a DLC plan (or concept) on how to tie these endings together. If they don't, that's why we need to keep this thread going, and advocate for a "fix" on social media.

I hope they will listen. Really dont want story to end like this

 

[Hammerstein]

you play as panam/judy to save V. They could find some other chip to copy V and get it back to body. Like V will survive but she will have some effects. Like vomiting bold etc. For ex that chip could be at Militech or in arisona at some corpo and your job is to steal it and save V. And then finnaly V and Judy/Panam can go their own way. Like it would make sense to fight for evrything to the end. Not like this. But one can only hope

How does that fix anything if you copy V again? Having Soulkiller used on you and being copied is a "Fate worse than death", that's what the game tells me in the beginning.

Also the Arasaka chip is a unique prototype and was Saburo Arasaka's own secret project, we are told so at some point in the story, I think by Hellman. I doubt that any other corp has such a chip just lying around. Had Yorinobu not stolen it and stored it in a hotel safe, we would never have been able to grab it.

 

[Simuxas]

How does that fix anything if you copy V again? Having Soulkiller used on you and being copied is a "Fate worse than death", that's what the game tells me in the beginning.

Also the Arasaka chip is a unique prototype and was Saburo Arasaka's own secret project, we are told so at some point in the story, I think by Hellman. I doubt that any other corp has such a chip just lying around. Had Yorinobu not stolen it and stored it in a hotel safe, we would never have been able to grab it.

Arsaka have plenty of those chips I assume, since Saburo chip gets inserted into Yorinobu.

 

[Froste29]

A way to write yourself out of the corner would be to follow this road:

1. Arasaka lied to you about the consequences the relic brought with it. It acutally is possible to reverse the damage, but they wanted a tame Silverhand as their enforcer.

2. Alt took advantage of you not kwoning this because she wanted to go cookie monster on those engrams and a chance to be with Johnny again.

3. You get behind this with the help of Blue Eyes, the Nomads or by doing Arasaka jobs and stumbling upon this/Takemura feeling honorbound to tell you IF you saved him (Choices matter)

Edit:

For a super bullshit way:

Ciri appears and marysue's you back into your old self.

 

[ohmrgraves]

the whole terminal and the "happiest" ending being V only getting what like 6 months to live is honestly kind of awful, it wouldnt have killed to have at least one happy ending. this game has a big borderlands 3 vibe in which everything bar the story feels really natural

 

[trapromance]

I'm going to add my two cents, and possibly some major overlooked spoilers.. but..

The "Solo" Secret ending and Nomad ending actually imply good things. Both indicate that there is a possible cure, the Solo ending because:

Spoiler

A mysterious figure called Mr Blue Eyes is in charge of V's contract, and it is said that he knows stuff that no one else has ever heard of. After the Casino Heist is completed, he/she tells Mr Blue Eyes to remember their end of the bargain - Mr Blue Eyes assures them that they haven't forgotten.

This eludes to the idea that whoever Mr Blue Eyes is, his connections are way above even Arasaka Tech. And who is above the corporations in terms of technological power in the Cyberpunk universe? The NUSA. It's already shown that there is one character in 2077 we interact with who goes by the alias 'A', and it turns out he's working for the NUSA. This 'A' is also noted for having Blue Eyes.

The Nomad Ending very likely connects this with, because the Nomads mention that they "know someone" that might be able to help.

Even the Johnny taking over ending indicates that V is not gone, because when interacting with V's romance interest, they ask what's wrong - noting that they know something isn't right with V. Johnny responds, imitating V as best they can, that everything will be alright.. soon.

This same implication is seen and heard in the ending where he appears by V's grave, and says that he wont be in a female body any more (if playing Female V) or in the same body any more - that things are going to change very soon.

Hope this gives a few people a little hope. The Expansion DLC that is to come is confirmed to be as big as all three Witcher 3 DLC's combined - we're getting a whole extra game from V's perspective.

It is also important to note that the ONLY person from Arasaka that you can trust is Takemura, especially if he survives.

Spoiler

He is honor-bound, and even sacrifices his personal vengeance so that V can be saved. He assures you if you opt for the Arasaka ending that you and him will meet again -- I trust Takemura that, as a character, he is not about to let shady things happen to V.

So do not trust anything other than Takemura tells you. A lot of the stuff you find out about the Relic turns out to only be partial-truth in the game as well, like Hellman stating that Johnny will try to take advantage and make grabs for power.

 

[ohmrgraves]

honestly hope it all ends up being as good as the witcher's dlcs, and maybe they'll give a bit of a cheerier ending or some kind of fix to V's terminal state

 

[Froste29]

I'm going to add my two cents, and possibly some major overlooked spoilers.. but..

The "Solo" Secret ending and Nomad ending actually imply good things. Both indicate that there is a possible cure, the Solo ending because:

Spoiler

A mysterious figure called Mr Blue Eyes is in charge of V's contract, and it is said that he knows stuff that no one else has ever heard of. After the Casino Heist is completed, he/she tells Mr Blue Eyes to remember their end of the bargain - Mr Blue Eyes assures them that they haven't forgotten.

This eludes to the idea that whoever Mr Blue Eyes is, his connections are way above even Arasaka Tech. And who is above the corporations in terms of technological power in the Cyberpunk universe? The NUSA. It's already shown that there is one character in 2077 we interact with who goes by the alias 'A', and it turns out he's working for the NUSA. This 'A' is also noted for having Blue Eyes.

The Nomad Ending very likely connects this with, because the Nomads mention that they "know someone" that might be able to help.

Even the Johnny taking over ending indicates that V is not gone, because when interacting with V's romance interest, they ask what's wrong - noting that they know something isn't right with V. Johnny responds, imitating V as best they can, that everything will be alright.. soon.

This same implication is seen and heard in the ending where he appears by V's grave, and says that he wont be in a female body any more (if playing Female V) or in the same body any more - that things are going to change very soon.

Hope this gives a few people a little hope. The Expansion DLC that is to come is confirmed to be as big as all three Witcher 3 DLC's combined - we're getting a whole extra game from V's perspective.

Thank you for this. This was actually a soothing read for me.
I would like to try the Space Heist ending for myself, but I cannot bear with V's friends and romance being gone.

 

[tRYSIS3]

Paid DLC that re-writes the ending should not be acceptable

 

[trapromance]

The DLC is free. This was confirmed with a message in the pre-launch Trailer a day before the game went live. All the more indicating that V's story was never meant to end in the standard game.

 

[acakomandos]

A way to write yourself out of the corner would be to follow this road:

1. Arasaka lied to you about the consequences the relic brought with it. It acutally is possible to reverse the damage, but they wanted a tame Silverhand as their enforcer.

2. Alt took advantage of you not kwoning this because she wanted to go cookie monster on those engrams and a chance to be with Johnny again.

3. You get behind this with the help of Blue Eyes, the Nomads or by doing Arasaka jobs and stumbling upon this/Takemura feeling honorbound to tell you IF you saved him (Choices matter)

Edit:

For a super bullshit way:

Ciri appears and marysue's you back into your old self.

This is good

 

[tRYSIS3]

The DLC is free. This was confirmed with a message in the pre-launch Trailer a day before the game went live. All the more indicating that V's story was never meant to end in the standard game.

DLC could be extra items or weapons, similar to TW3, they never said anything about story expansions being free.

 

[Froste29]

This is good

Actually the more I read this the better the bs Ciri thing appears to me. She controls time, doesn't she?
She could reset your body to pre-relic state.

CDPR would get the opportunity to do fan service and create their own connected universe.

 

[eriberri]

Hope this gives a few people a little hope. The Expansion DLC that is to come is confirmed to be as big as all three Witcher 3 DLC's combined - we're getting a whole extra game from V's perspective.

I agree with @Froste29, yours was a very soothing post to read, and very hopeful if it turns out to be true. However, I have a question, where did you get this information about the expansion DLC?

 

[Nekatinyz]

I'm going to add my two cents, and possibly some major overlooked spoilers.. but..

The "Solo" Secret ending and Nomad ending actually imply good things. Both indicate that there is a possible cure, the Solo ending because:

Spoiler

A mysterious figure called Mr Blue Eyes is in charge of V's contract, and it is said that he knows stuff that no one else has ever heard of. After the Casino Heist is completed, he/she tells Mr Blue Eyes to remember their end of the bargain - Mr Blue Eyes assures them that they haven't forgotten.

This eludes to the idea that whoever Mr Blue Eyes is, his connections are way above even Arasaka Tech. And who is above the corporations in terms of technological power in the Cyberpunk universe? The NUSA. It's already shown that there is one character in 2077 we interact with who goes by the alias 'A', and it turns out he's working for the NUSA. This 'A' is also noted for having Blue Eyes.

The Nomad Ending very likely connects this with, because the Nomads mention that they "know someone" that might be able to help.

Even the Johnny taking over ending indicates that V is not gone, because when interacting with V's romance interest, they ask what's wrong - noting that they know something isn't right with V. Johnny responds, imitating V as best they can, that everything will be alright.. soon.

This same implication is seen and heard in the ending where he appears by V's grave, and says that he wont be in a female body any more (if playing Female V) or in the same body any more - that things are going to change very soon.

Hope this gives a few people a little hope. The Expansion DLC that is to come is confirmed to be as big as all three Witcher 3 DLC's combined - we're getting a whole extra game from V's perspective.

It is also important to note that the ONLY person from Arasaka that you can trust is Takemura, especially if he survives.

Spoiler

He is honor-bound, and even sacrifices his personal vengeance so that V can be saved. He assures you if you opt for the Arasaka ending that you and him will meet again -- I trust Takemura that, as a character, he is not about to let shady things happen to V.

So do not trust anything other than Takemura tells you. A lot of the stuff you find out about the Relic turns out to only be partial-truth in the game as well, like Hellman stating that Johnny will try to take advantage and make grabs for power.

Where you heard about size of dlc?