It does not matter in the end, cause in the "better" endings we already have become an engram copy. The only ending with the original V intact is the Arasaka one, and he's badly disabled and has to rely on a neural chip to not be a complete vegetable.
You are an engram but that engram was written with all of your memories on it, including what you experienced with Johnny, you even remember what happened when you were passed out, you have a recollection of 100% of your life, meanwhile the Arasaka one literally removes some of your memories permanently.
Cyberpunk as a genre is depressing, rape, murder, crime, no future, dying world, 1% ruling the 99% over life and death.
It's quite literally grimdark like WH40k at points, there are NEVER real -happy- endings, people fail to understand this.
Now, does this mean there CANNOT be? 'Course not but I don't think they're gonna kill off V simply because they fully KNOW what a good character bond can do, people bought TW3 to continue a bond throughout ages from TW1 to TW3, it's not even about the romance, just the feeling of achievement and acknowledged progression that you get from npcs around you which makes you feel accomplished.
Before this, i played Wasteland 3, which is set in even worse world, but in the end i managed to get best ending possible in which almost everybody survived, topled Patriarch, saved Arizona etc., so it shouldnt matter how bad the world is.
Problem in this game is no matter what you do, you end up dead or worse, your choices dont really matter.
Ooooh, I already made a long post about that garbage. Here's a snippet:
But it gets worse when it comes to false promises: Central characters repeatedly break their word to you with zero consequences and at the same time the game forces you to accept whatever it is they suggest.
Alt saying "Oh I can totally disentangle you and Johnny" until in the last stage of the game she goes: "Oooops, well actually I can't. Cause there's this thing about genetics that I didn't think about, despite being an all powerful rogue AI that can bring satellites down and take over the world's most powerful megacorp in the blink of an eye".
Or Hanako Arasaka being like: "We will save your life.....Oooops, no we can't. Instead we performed a semi-lobotomy on you and now you're disabled and will die in 6 months. But we will kill you and store a copy of your mind, if you sign over all your rights to the corp." (Oh and we also stole the corpse of your best friend) .
The game offers no option to say "I don't trust Hanako and I certainly don't trust the thing that Alt has become. There's no option to go and say: "All these people and AIs are just shit. Let's just burn it all down" - although excactly that was hinted at during the Clouds mission.
I made peace with myself and endings by saving V by myself with my imagination after arasaka ending. That's the true power of escapizm ;D
On a little more serious note it would have been funny if they would made expansion that plays in pararel to the current plot line. In there depending on your choices and story, V get's one of the endings or a little altered. Like you spot all the lies and machinations of Alt, johny,hanako. And even you see the true picture. Because let's be honest, V sees johny, talks to him, all the stress etc not a very good state of mind. There might me some misconception about perceiving reality. That's where you come in, wage war and save the V ;D
On much more serious note i doubt they will adress anything. I think they will just get cyberpunk running on ps4 etc and shut this and try a new idea with clean plate.
I made peace with myself and endings by saving V by myself with my imagination after arasaka ending. That's the true power of escapizm ;D
On a little more serious note it would have been funny if they would made expansion that plays in pararel to the current plot line. In there depending on your choices and story, V get's one of the endings or a little altered. Like you spot all the lies and machinations of Alt, johny,hanako. And even you see the true picture. Because let's be honest, V sees johny, talks to him, all the stress etc not a very good state of mind. There might me some misconception about perceiving reality. That's where you come in, wage war and save the V ;D
On much more serious note i doubt they will adress anything. I think they will just get cyberpunk running on ps4 etc and shut this and try a new idea with clean plate.
for me Arasaka ending is actually most fitting the world. By the end of the day V with survival and dealing with Arasaka is as delusional as Jacki with becoming a legend and dealing with Dexter.
You even get the friends warning that this is a terrible idea
There were a dozen of red flags about Dex, with most of your friends and associates warning you about him and that he is not all that he seems to be. Even the Maelstromers laugh, when they hear you work for Dex. And we never learn what happened in Pacifica and why he disappeard for 2 years. And yet the game forces us to accept his mission.
And if there were a dozen red flags about Dex, then it's a thousand about AI Alt. An amoral AI, that intends to assimilate all the engrams in Mikoshi and openly says that you have to die when entering Mikoshi. And our idiot character only gets the option to say this:
On much more serious note i doubt they will adress anything. I think they will just get cyberpunk running on ps4 etc and shut this and try a new idea with clean plate.
I made peace with myself and endings by saving V by myself with my imagination after arasaka ending. That's the true power of escapizm ;D
On a little more serious note it would have been funny if they would made expansion that plays in pararel to the current plot line. In there depending on your choices and story, V get's one of the endings or a little altered. Like you spot all the lies and machinations of Alt, johny,hanako. And even you see the true picture. Because let's be honest, V sees johny, talks to him, all the stress etc not a very good state of mind. There might me some misconception about perceiving reality. That's where you come in, wage war and save the V ;D
On much more serious note i doubt they will adress anything. I think they will just get cyberpunk running on ps4 etc and shut this and try a new idea with clean plate.
Doubt it. They put too much into CP77, they will monetize it since they don’t have a reputation now to come one with new products, so no TW4 or CP77:MP.
CP77 is also too big sandbox to just leave it. Whole system can be modular with new acts, gigs, side missions, things like subway/cloths/cyberware
Doubt it. They put too much into CP77, they will monetize it since they don’t have a reputation now to come one with new products, so no TW4 or CP77:MP.
CP77 is also too big sandbox to just leave it. Whole system can be modular with new acts, gigs, side missions, things like subway/cloths/cyberware
There were a dozen of red flags about Dex, with most of your friends and associates warning you about him and that he is not all that he seems to be. Even the Maelstromers laugh, when they hear you work for Dex. And we never learn what happened in Pacifica and why he disappeard for 2 years. And yet the game forces us to accept his mission.
And if there were a dozen red flags about Dex, then it's a thousand about AI Alt. An amoral AI, that intends to assimilate all the engrams in Mikoshi and openly says that you have to die when entering Mikoshi. And our idiot character only gets the option to say this:
Did you forget that it is ssupposed to be a dark gritty, cyberpunk world where everyone can have a happy ending but you?
How else can you even go with that plan?
I made peace with myself and endings by saving V by myself with my imagination after arasaka ending. That's the true power of escapizm ;D
On a little more serious note it would have been funny if they would made expansion that plays in pararel to the current plot line. In there depending on your choices and story, V get's one of the endings or a little altered. Like you spot all the lies and machinations of Alt, johny,hanako. And even you see the true picture. Because let's be honest, V sees johny, talks to him, all the stress etc not a very good state of mind. There might me some misconception about perceiving reality. That's where you come in, wage war and save the V ;D
On much more serious note i doubt they will adress anything. I think they will just get cyberpunk running on ps4 etc and shut this and try a new idea with clean plate.
Jesus, I feel like I live through the stages of grief. I also came to terms with the following agreement:
Never show me that V died 6 months after the Nomad ending and I will forever believe that he and Panam happily raised lots of Avocado-kids in Arizona .
Well, I know IGN said there were quite a lot more different endings available after going back to do 20 hours of sidequests, etc, than when they'd raced through just the main story ..... There obviously might well be more still if you did more than that? As for further details on if some side stuff is particularly important & so on, I don't know but I'm sure there'll soon be guides covering it all if you don't want to keep playing to find out
I have a lot of hrs put in this game. I only didnt do beating gigs cus i dont enjoy fight mehanics. I havent been able to find anything. Ending crushed me. No choice at all. Just dark and grim
You are an engram but that engram was written with all of your memories on it, including what you experienced with Johnny, you even remember what happened when you were passed out, you have a recollection of 100% of your life, meanwhile the Arasaka one literally removes some of your memories permanently.
Only that this "You" is "Copy You". A copy of your memories, after you were flatlined and brainwiped by an AI with uncanny motives, while being uploaded to Arasaka's version of digital Limbo.
No thanks. I rather stick to my original memories.
I'm going to add my two cents, and possibly some major overlooked spoilers.. but..
The "Solo" Secret ending and Nomad ending actually imply good things. Both indicate that there is a possible cure, the Solo ending because:
A mysterious figure called Mr Blue Eyes is in charge of V's contract, and it is said that he knows stuff that no one else has ever heard of. After the Casino Heist is completed, he/she tells Mr Blue Eyes to remember their end of the bargain - Mr Blue Eyes assures them that they haven't forgotten.
This eludes to the idea that whoever Mr Blue Eyes is, his connections are way above even Arasaka Tech. And who is above the corporations in terms of technological power in the Cyberpunk universe? The NUSA. It's already shown that there is one character in 2077 we interact with who goes by the alias 'A', and it turns out he's working for the NUSA. This 'A' is also noted for having Blue Eyes.
The Nomad Ending very likely connects this with, because the Nomads mention that they "know someone" that might be able to help.
Even the Johnny taking over ending indicates that V is not gone, because when interacting with V's romance interest, they ask what's wrong - noting that they know something isn't right with V. Johnny responds, imitating V as best they can, that everything will be alright.. soon.
This same implication is seen and heard in the ending where he appears by V's grave, and says that he wont be in a female body any more (if playing Female V) or in the same body any more - that things are going to change very soon.
Hope this gives a few people a little hope. The Expansion DLC that is to come is confirmed to be as big as all three Witcher 3 DLC's combined - we're getting a whole extra game from V's perspective.
It is also important to note that the ONLY person from Arasaka that you can trust is Takemura, especially if he survives.
He is honor-bound, and even sacrifices his personal vengeance so that V can be saved. He assures you if you opt for the Arasaka ending that you and him will meet again -- I trust Takemura that, as a character, he is not about to let shady things happen to V.
So do not trust anything other than Takemura tells you. A lot of the stuff you find out about the Relic turns out to only be partial-truth in the game as well, like Hellman stating that Johnny will try to take advantage and make grabs for power.
Only that this "You" is "Copy You". A copy of your memories, after you were flatlined and brainwiped by an AI with uncanny motives, while being uploaded to Arasaka's version of digital Limbo.
No thanks. I rather stick to my original memories.
Alt took everyone beyond the blackwall and absorbed them, I don't think she could not flatline you tbf.. Better than being in Arasaka prison forever with no rights "oh we didn't receive any complaints about our program!" well do you expect constructs in a construct prison to be able to complain? You legit give all your rights away to "save" your soul, they could make you a body like Adam's and yet they don't, you don't need compatibility to be full chrome as there's no real flesh that can reject you.
Jesus, I feel like I live through the stages of grief. I also came to terms with the following agreement:
Never show me that V died 6 months after the Nomad ending and I will forever believe that he and Panam happily raised lots of Avocado-kids in Arizona .
Sorry to break this to you, but your V is already dead. You are playing as Engram V, whose memories may or may not have been tempered with by AI Alt, during your stay in Mikoshi. You're not longer the V you started the game as.
