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[Spoiler Alert] About the endings

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Do you want more RPGs with happy endings?

  • Yes, I miss happy endings.

    Votes: 429 44.1%
  • No, I am content with the endings currently offered.

    Votes: 92 9.5%
  • I think that the option should be available for those who want it.

    Votes: 286 29.4%
  • It’s more complicated than that.

    Votes: 165 17.0%

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Kikinho

Kikinho

Senior user
#4,041
Dec 20, 2020
Froste29 said:
Actually the more I read this the better the bs Ciri thing appears to me. She controls time, doesn't she?
She could reset your body to pre-relic state.

CDPR would get the opportunity to do fan service and create their own connected universe.
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This would be the worst idea yet.
 
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pEestino

pEestino

Forum regular
#4,042
Dec 20, 2020
Hammerstein said:
Sorry to break this to you, but your V is already dead. You are playing as Engram V, whose memories may or may not have been tempered with by AI Alt, during your stay in Mikoshi. You're not longer the V you started the game as.
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Yes and in the others you die or you're sentenced to life in a virtual prison while your body also dies.. Or you die alone..
 
acakomandos

acakomandos

Forum regular
#4,043
Dec 20, 2020
Froste29 said:
Jesus, I feel like I live through the stages of grief. I also came to terms with the following agreement:

Never show me that V died 6 months after the Nomad ending and I will forever believe that he and Panam happily raised lots of Avocado-kids in Arizona . 😃
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Yeah it looks like we can only imagine
 
pEestino

pEestino

Forum regular
#4,044
Dec 20, 2020
Kikinho said:
This would be the worst idea yet.
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Fan service this early on in a game that is supposedly to be an IP to be brought forward alongside TW (to be alternated) is too much.
 
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Hammerstein

Hammerstein

Forum regular
#4,045
Dec 20, 2020
pEestino said:
Alt took everyone beyond the blackwall and absorbed them, I don't think she could not flatline you tbf.. Better than being in Arasaka prison forever with no rights "oh we didn't receive any complaints about our program!" well do you expect constructs in a construct prison to be able to complain? You legit give all your rights away to "save" your soul, they could make you a body like Adam's and yet they don't, you don't need compatibility to be full chrome as there's no real flesh that can reject you.
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The original V is/will be dead in all of these outcomes. Either Soulkiller zapped by AI Alt when you enter Mikoshi. Or Soulkiller zapped by Arasaka if you agree to their contract. There is no way to escape these outcomes - unless you pick the Arasaka ending and decide to go to Earth, to live 6 months as a disabled person and then die, which is also horrible.
 
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Kikinho

Kikinho

Senior user
#4,046
Dec 20, 2020
trapromance said:
The confirmation of DLC

But it should be noted that this recently changed with the PS4 release issues; the DLC is consequently post-poned as a result. But it's still on its way. [edit] Yeah, the packs will be free, but the expansions are simply extensions to the story. Referring back to my original post - looking into and replaying it, none of the endings besides suicide actually imply that V is dead/a goner, they all indicate that something is brewing.
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Well if all you say is true, then it was definitely a soothing read and thank you for that. There is still hope it seems.
 
acakomandos

acakomandos

Forum regular
#4,047
Dec 20, 2020
Hammerstein said:
Sorry to break this to you, but your V is already dead. You are playing as Engram V, whose memories may or may not have been tempered with by AI Alt, during your stay in Mikoshi. You're not longer the V you started the game as.
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Yeah that is the truth, But I am sure they could have added some other AI when you break in with nomads in arisaka. You could have had option to save V. Like that AI would free you if you freed him. And what happens after dosent matter, you are of the city. AI could do some crazy shit but you are far away
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But I am sure they could have added some other AI when you break in with nomads in arisaka. You could have had option to save V. Like that AI would free you if you freed him. And what happens after dosent matter, you are of the city. AI could do some crazy shit but you are far away. It can pull moral dilema, save V live long but kill many people, but you get to live happy life far away
 
Froste29

Froste29

Forum regular
#4,048
Dec 20, 2020
Hammerstein said:
Sorry to break this to you, but your V is already dead. You are playing as Engram V, whose memories may or may not have been tempered with by AI Alt, during your stay in Mikoshi. You're not longer the V you started the game as.
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Again, that is up for philosophical debate. I stand by my point that it still would be V. I mean noone of the Aldecaldos seemed to notice a difference while Panam breaks up with you immediately in other endings.

There are no reasons that indicate something has been tempered. Maybe it has been, maybe it has not.

The choice to believe the one thing or the other, finally, is mine.
 
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MandyZGaming

MandyZGaming

Forum regular
#4,049
Dec 20, 2020
Froste29 said:
Jesus, I feel like I live through the stages of grief. I also came to terms with the following agreement:

Never show me that V died 6 months after the Nomad ending and I will forever believe that he and Panam happily raised lots of Avocado-kids in Arizona . 😃
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Yeah I did a second play, where I just stopped after finishing the missions with River, leaving it to my imagination to give me a correct ending.
 
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Froste29

Froste29

Forum regular
#4,050
Dec 20, 2020
MandyZGaming said:
Yeah I did a second play, where I just stopped after finishing the missions with River, leaving it to my imagination to give me a correct ending.
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I think that is very sweet. If I were a dev, I would be touched how invested some players get into my story.

As an amateur author there is no bigger praise for my work than that.
 
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pEestino

pEestino

Forum regular
#4,051
Dec 20, 2020
Froste29 said:
Again, that is up for philosophical debate. I stand by my point that it still would be V. I mean noone of the Aldecaldos seemed to notice a difference while Panam breaks up with you immediately in other endings.

There are no reasons that indicate something has been tempered. Maybe it has been, maybe it has not.

The choice to believe the one thing or the other, finally, is mine.
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I wholeheartedly agree, Johnny affected V's decisionmaking and psyche and viceversa, you're basically a mental copy of V, true because your conciousness has been replaced but at the same time, it happened already at the start of the game? V dies in the dump, DeShawn kills the actual V we know from the start also where does this thing about Alt zapping V and taking him even come from? Surely she flatlined him whether or not she could or couldn't save his body is up for debate and I think not because she disregards physical bodies completely but at the same time she gave you a choice when she could've straight up nabbed you the moment you linked in.
 
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Froste29

Froste29

Forum regular
#4,052
Dec 20, 2020
pEestino said:
Fan service this early on in a game that is supposedly to be an IP to be brought forward alongside TW (to be alternated) is too much.
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Yeah, that is why I dubbed it the bs way 😅
 
acakomandos

acakomandos

Forum regular
#4,053
Dec 20, 2020
Why just not add one more short film. Where 8 months passes and you dont die. Then you get one short message, I lied so Jhonny dosent steal your body, live happily V- Alt
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pEestino said:
I wholeheartedly agree, Johnny affected V's decisionmaking and psyche and viceversa, you're basically a mental copy of V, true because your conciousness has been replaced but at the same time, it happened already at the start of the game? V dies in the dump, DeShawn kills the actual V we know from the start also where does this thing about Alt zapping V and taking him even come from? Surely she flatlined him whether or not she could or couldn't save his body is up for debate and I think not because she disregards physical bodies completely but at the same time she gave you a choice when she could've straight up nabbed you the moment you linked in.
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Why just not add one more short film. Where 8 months passes and you dont die. Then you get one short message, I lied so Jhonny dosent steal your body, live happily V- Alt
 
Kikinho

Kikinho

Senior user
#4,054
Dec 20, 2020
acakomandos said:
Why just not add one more short film. Where 8 months passes and you dont die. Then you get one short message, I lied so Jhonny dosent steal your body, live happily V- Alt
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Why just not add one more short film. Where 8 months passes and you dont die. Then you get one short message, I lied so Jhonny dosent steal your body, live happily V- Alt
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Depending on your relationship with Jhonny, he already has no desire to steal ur body. This would just feel super cheap.
 
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acakomandos

acakomandos

Forum regular
#4,055
Dec 20, 2020
HonestBenny said:
I am also dissapointed beacuse it seems there is not even one happy ending where V can live and heal up damage that shard did to him/her.

I mean how can you make 6 endings, not not give even one happy one.... So all endings are meaningless because we either die before last missions, we die during last mission by losing our body or we die few months after winning our body and mind back.

WTF?

Did CDPR have too many razors in office?
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Why just not add one more short film. Where 8 months passes and you dont die. Then you get one short message, I lied so Jhonny dosent steal your body, live happily V. It would be better than this imo
 
pEestino

pEestino

Forum regular
#4,056
Dec 20, 2020
acakomandos said:
Why just not add one more short film. Where 8 months passes and you dont die. Then you get one short message, I lied so Jhonny dosent steal your body, live happily V- Alt
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Why just not add one more short film. Where 8 months passes and you dont die. Then you get one short message, I lied so Jhonny dosent steal your body, live happily V- Alt
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It's far fletched that an AI would pull a prank just to pull a prank, either way, the black wall is completely unexplored, who knows what one can find there, it's pure AI chaos, maybe there is a cure in there afterall somehow, as AI have unlimited knowledge and time flows differently, furthermore we have proof that AIs get more and more advanced and the B(lack)ICE of the blackwall is decaying.
 
acakomandos

acakomandos

Forum regular
#4,057
Dec 20, 2020
Kikinho said:
Depending on your relationship with Jhonny, he already has no desire to steal ur body. This would just feel super cheap.
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Oh didnt know that. Thank you
 
Hammerstein

Hammerstein

Forum regular
#4,058
Dec 20, 2020
Froste29 said:
Again, that is up for philosophical debate. I stand by my point that it still would be V. I mean noone of the Aldecaldos seemed to notice a difference while Panam breaks up with you immediately in other endings.

There are no reasons that indicate something has been tempered. Maybe it has been, maybe it has not.

The choice to believe the one thing or the other, finally, is mine.
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Well it's not a philosophical debate when the game's lore states that Soulkiller makes a copy and then brain wipes you.

So the copy gets to live another 6 months, but the original must die. Sounds like a pretty shitty trade...

In the Space Heist ending your love interest leaves you, stating that "You have changed....".....
 
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pEestino

pEestino

Forum regular
#4,059
Dec 20, 2020
acakomandos said:
Oh didnt know that. Thank you
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He even stops you from giving him your body though he ultimately gives you the choice.
 
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Froste29

Froste29

Forum regular
#4,060
Dec 20, 2020
Kikinho said:
Depending on your relationship with Jhonny, he already has no desire to steal ur body. This would just feel super cheap.
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So he said. I think he was a sociopath. He abused you right the start, noticed it won't help him and instead tried the sugarcoating route, leading you to Alt, presenting it to be the best course of action.

And guess what, your only option is to agree to Alt's plan.
 
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