Honestly i wouldnt be suprised if that was their idea, but i can hope its not lol
*Reload save* As I jumped Dying
*Reload save* As i died Dying
*Reload save* As i.... Dying
10/10 IGN so much choice to save V
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Guys one honest question tho. Does CDPR really reads this forum? Will they listen to people who demand a bit hapier ending? Just what are the chances? Its my first CDPR game, i started gaming recently, so i really dont know what to expect
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I will disagree. Endings looks like they are finished and complete. Every one of them looks, feel and play solid, if only we’d discuss every ending alone.
Main problem is that all of them have the same outcome. You are going to die. To make case even worst they advertise (they advertise ...) game as a game with different endings
This is yet different from other not full field advertisements that they are as I said complete.
hell in those endings you can see V in 3rd perspective with full cinematic melancholic choreography. This not a mistake or rush execution
Of course they read the forums.
Will they change something because of threads like this? Doubtful.
Should we still voice our concern then?
Absolutely.
Edit: Like every designer, presenter and so on you require feedback for every single product or presentation.
Some journalists who are probably bought anyways won't give you honest feedback.
That what forums and surveys are for. You might not agree with the stuff said there, but if a majority raises concerns about a problem you at least listen to it and let it influence future projects.
I think in games where player choice can influence the endings it is absolutely imperative to have at least the possibility of a positive outcome. After i learned that every which way V dies, I lost all interest in re-playing the game.
It's mass effect 3 all over again, where I had to pretend that the indoctrination theory was real, that was the only way to reconcile the ending. Here I don't even see a fan theory saving it.
It's mass effect 3 all over again, where I had to pretend that the indoctrination theory was real, that was the only way to reconcile the ending. Here I don't even see a fan theory saving it.
Dexter DeShawn actually was the hero, because he tried to stop us from reaching this ending and deafening depression.
I did start Nomad ended with Panam , it looks like that is the good ending i saw at the end where people leave messages to you. There was Misty reading your tarot cards she was never wrong about it after every mission i went to her so she can read the cards. At the end she said "You got a bright future ahead of you V". I think it will be added in DLC we can save ourselves.
Well 100k people have seen this thread and around 5k commnented, and not just here in many many treads people want CDPR to add at least one positive outcome. I would be really sad if everything stays the same, but i gotta be real
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Well he knew all along. Long live fat ass who shot us
Yeah, but the soulkiller part kinda fucks everything up. Is it real V or copy. Almost every ending ends up the same, get soulkillered and then 6 months to live, except for Arasaka one, where you die in 6 months cuz of surgery.
If this game wouldn’t be such a mess with last gen consoles we’d know by now roadmap for dlc and expansion packs and probably this thread would be about guessing how this cliffhanger will be resolved.
yet we are where we are - in deep sh... with those endings.
yet we are where we are - in deep sh... with those endings.
It was a happy ending in my case! My character had a female body and male voice, which meant that Panam and Judy had no interest. I got into it with a cop, which I badly regretted and he wanted to get together long term. So I found the only solution was to give my body to Silverhand. A big win for both of us, what a masterpiece of a story :')
I checked out the lowsodiumcyberpunk subreddit, and some people actually like the ending, like it's the best story and makes you "think". They can't say one thing V actually accomplishes and the endings are basically cliffhangers which basically say V will most likely die. We the players have to use our imagination (lol).
Anyways, all I gotta say is if the dlc doesn't continue V's story and it's a new char/johnny then i'm done with the game. Hopefully they can reveal the dlc by feb/march.
Anyways, all I gotta say is if the dlc doesn't continue V's story and it's a new char/johnny then i'm done with the game. Hopefully they can reveal the dlc by feb/march.
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Dam, lucky you that your definition of win is so different than ours
The issue with the endings is compound.
1. The journey is very short and lacking depth and complexity. If I take out the 3 missions for the romance with Panam, that's even less content to get me to the final mission. The result is when you get to the final mission, it all feels a bit awkward and rushed. You don't feel as if you have achieved much getting there.
2. The romances, like the main story lack time. In my Panam romance there were 3 missions with which to carry out the 'romance'. This seemed to follow a loose framework of 'introduction' and teasing the player with the prospect of romance, then a 'filler' to build the relationship and showcase the character's want/need for each other, and finally the 'deal sealer' where the characters affirm there relationship (obligatory 10 second sex scene). Then you are given a 'doggy bag' of good feelings and returned to the main storyline. The endings dictate we must either leave behind those romances or take them with us, but in either instance they develop no further than a 'quickie'.
3. The dialogue presents options throughout with opposing reactions or opinions on the current event. Many of these options result in the same outcome (if I agree or disagree with someone or a plan, it makes no difference as we will follow that plan or person anyway). The decisions as a whole only ever subvert the fixed narrative for a short period, and ultimately snap back to the pre-set storyline. The endings are inevitable, we have only a minor say in how they transpire. Whilst ultimately V is destined to die immediately, die in months or die a digital ghost as AI.
4. The world ceases to exist beyond the ending. There is no option to return to NC and continue play. Some of this is dictated by the ending, but even where the ending does not stop you from returning to play, CDPR does. The only option is to return to a final save and play from there. The story and journey is abandoned under this principle. There is no rush to save your life, there is no journey to be experienced or decisions to partake in. There is no romance to develop or enjoy. You are left in a world with no friends or lovers, nothing beyond side missions and 100% completion to keep you immersed.
Some of the endings are absolutely fine because you survive. The minimum V expected from the journey was to see it to conclusion (get rid of Johnny). But the position of the endings in the timeline means that everything else is condensed to accommodate it. We can't have those drinks at the bar with Judy, or invite Panam over for some 'Netflix n Chill', or go to a club with Kerry because the ending is coming up in a couple of missions and there isn't time. We can't tell Takemura that we understand his stake in the game but we have bigger fish to fry, and other people to help us fry them because he HAS to take us to the conclusion. We continually sacrifice V's status as protagonist to give screen time to other characters, who for the most part are there to hurry us along to the endings
I think we can just say, what should´ve been the masterpiece for years, turned to a master debacle!
There is another thread asking about similar games to CP2077. When you go through and see all the pros and cons of other games people are giving you realise what an absolute masterpiece this game would have been. If it were as intended it no doubt would have been revolutionary to the genre
-Choices in the game do not matter
-romances feel real and believable, but lack depth
-Endings are just flat sadistic nor do they matter because of "you don´t go further, you´re going straight back to point of no return"
-lack of typical rpg mechanics
I think those are the major issues to sum it up.
Well yeah but doesn't mean we got no soul it's like we have all the memories it is us in the body we interacted with everyone the same as before. Just worries me dying in game i just don't know what will be the DLC how can they add up on the story because i am sure i want to play as V i made choices i developed the character don't want to start over with new one..