I feel the same way, I do wanna play it, but I just can't get myself to it because of knowing how it will all end.
I've already uninstalled the game, and don't intend to touch it ever again until they do something about the endings... I started the game fully intent to explore all endings and choice paths. But since they're all the same, I guess I'm done already...
They have all the tools to fix this. Mid-game DLC that adds new endings. Post-game DLC that expands on the aftermath and maybe even giving a chance to V to save his or herself. Retconning. They already know what the community thinks and wants, it's a matter of time now...
I just think we should point everyone unhappy with the ending to this topic so they can express their opinions on the poll as well, to make CDPR see that, although they messed up a bit, we still trust they will make up for it.
Exactly what I am thinking. Though, I am trying to get myself to play through the game, but I might have to let the dust settle for a bit and take a break. I don't know.
I went into this game thinking I was gonna get something like Dragon Age: Origins, I had planned to make not only 3 characters but 6 characters eventually (male and female of each over the years), all of that down the drain now. The only way I can replay it now, is if I roleplay my character as self destructive, or like my corpo where they would rejoin arisaka; go back to the fold. I always intended for my eventual corpo to get a more sad ending, I just didn't think it would be my only option..
God I am hoping for a mid-game DLC where V has the opportunity to save themselves before soulkiller...
I still have it, I might try to play my character before the last mission and pretend it never happened and never will until they hopefully fix it. But god I hate that Johnny is still in there and will annoy the heck out of mo.
By the way, they added that photo mode, all those different clothing styles and poses for us just to take a picture of character that's gonna die at the end.
Same, i was enjoying it until i got spoiled about the endings, now i dont see a point playing it any more.
Right? I am not happy anymore. I almost feel insulted. Dead man/woman walking is all I think now when I see V. It's seriously not good for a person's mental health.
I got spoiled not too long after the heist. I was just doing the find Evelyn mission when I got spoiled. I barely got to play this game, and now I pretty much don't want to play it anymore.
if I recall correctly, the only DLC that addressed the endings just added some pictures of the crewmates smiling and some context to what happened to Normandy because original endings literally had them just crash-landing and that's it. they refused to engage in any meaningful conversation with the fanbase aside from that. to this day we have to believe that Shep's story ended with a big kaboom and us red-ending-Shep-survives-indoctrination-theory proponents are just nutjobs. with the teaser coming out from TGA we now have some hope, but with Bioware's latest track record I'm not quite holding my breath.
as for the soullessness, in a perfect world, it would actually be a great chance to explore this theme in depth. they've already tackled the theme of God and faith with Joshua's quest (quite successfully in my opinion), so the meditation on the nature of the soul seems like a logical next step (even though they should've probably explored it in the base game).
Yeah, but we don't ask much, just one additional ending, they can push back those dlcs a month or 2 back, but at least player base would be happy and grateful that they listened.
We already had 2020 which was depressing as hell for everyone, so even a grain of happiness would come a long way for all of us. Could say this dlc would be something good for how horrible 2020 was.
the dev guy who said "you can't save the world. you can only save yourself" well i wanna add on to that "you can't save the world...but you can save yourself and those around you who you care dearly about" jackie, takemura, judy, panam, river, rogue, good people all of them the list goes on.
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i am playing the game a second time but i am not going as far as past the "watson lockdown" segment or meeting dexter the double crosser in his ugly ass car.
yeah, I was already kind of gutted by TLOU2 in the worst, certainly not intended kind of way. the way they call "bigoted" even though I'm the last person to complain about representation.
I've been CDPR's fan since 2007, I'm as hardass fan as they come, and their games for me were always a comfort blanket that helped me through school, university, my first jobs and bad relationships. so I was hoping for some nurturing escapism and didn't even think Cyberpunk could sucker-punch me like that, but hey, I haven't head such an interesting discussion in ages, so at least there is that
You are introducing ambiguity where the game does not. Any "V" after Soulkiller IS a construct copy, and any life it gets to live in those 6 months is not the V you were playing during the game. Any DLC that takes place in those six months might as well be marketed as "see what this construct does with your body! See what you might've gotten to do if you didn't fry yourself so an AI could pretend to be you!"
Shooting yourself is the only ending that isn't surrendering your body to be used by a construct.
I've played hundreds upon hundreds of hours through Witcher 1, 2, and 3. I only play through Witcher 3, when I have played through the whole series, as I think it gives myself more attachment to my Geralt. To what choices I made in the past.
I also, never thought CDPR could do us so dirty with this story. Not only does the ending ruin the rest of the game, unsalvageable in it's current state - people don't want to play the game again currently, it's doesn't offer anywhere near the level of choice of their past games. Rather, it doesn't offer any choice at all.
I truly always thought I would love this game no matter what because of the story. I feel lied to by cdpr. They always touted their level of choice and replayability, while raking in preorders. They pulled the wool over our eyes.
The other issue with saving "copy" V is that - like so many people have said in this thread - they are not the real V. They are only a copy that is soulless and is still essentially dead. The only way to appease everyone would be to find a way to repair original V's body and brain, or find a way to put Johnny in another body while repairing V at the same time (some people like Johnny, like me).
The other way to do this is like other people have suggested. Put a divergence point at some part midway through the story that allows you to remove Johnny and the Relic earlier in order to prevent the brain and body damage V succumbs to. After you do this then Johnny is written out of the story so we (CDPR) doesn't have to bring back Keanu to voice a whole new story line. Now from here, we could do some sort of expose in which we go to Nancy (Johnny's friend) to break the story that Arasaka is experimenting with bio-chips and engrams on constructs to seek eternal life. The game would end with V alive and Johnny's plan of taking down Arasaka put into motion by possibly starting another Corp War where everyone is after the bio-chip and Relic tech along with Soulkiller and Mikoshi.
Just spit-balling here though guys.
you make a great point. I played TW1 around a dozen times when it first came out (just got my first comp, didn't know many games, didn't have money to buy), then TW2 at least 3 times with both routes and I'm currently on my 3rd endless playthrough TW3 (as in "I boot it up once in a while and just walk around because it feels so good to be back"), so I am very much attached to my Geralt, too.
the funny thing is that, in all these years, especially as the hype was starting to ramp up, I had no high expectations for anything other than the story and the characters. yet, 50 hours later, coming back to do the gigs and sides, I find myself really loving the mechanics (I play stealth and it feels so much like simplified immersive sim it's awesome) and trying my hardest to ignore the plot.
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That is why i said some of the endings are open ended. And until we get some kind of confirmation, i will chose to interpret that ending exactly like you said.
That said, i would love to play that act 4. plus this is still literally ME3s original endings of : Death, more death, green death, and death but 1 breath hinting at sheps' survival.
Now i feel exactly as scarred as with Me3s endings. Call me sensitive, but i want that happy ending dang nabbit.
It's amusing that this story has so much potential, this thread is a goldmine of ideas of how it could've been more satisfying and enjoyable.
It's also kind of sad that so many games that came out in the past couple years have a lot of potential but kinda fizzle out / drop the ball toward the final third. My game of the decade for 2010s is Divinity Original Sin 2 and the ending of that also felt like it was tacked on at the last minute; It wasn't 'bad' bad but the final boss was just a werid mess...
It's also kind of sad that so many games that came out in the past couple years have a lot of potential but kinda fizzle out / drop the ball toward the final third. My game of the decade for 2010s is Divinity Original Sin 2 and the ending of that also felt like it was tacked on at the last minute; It wasn't 'bad' bad but the final boss was just a werid mess...
Despite it all I think cdpr probably has the writing talent to fix this if they really wanted to. One single mid-game DLC that adds a new ending would resolve this. Save the original V and avoid soulkiller.
I agree though without being able to save the real V, people will be frustrated. What I mean is, if they don't alter these endings, or I mean if they do and copy V finds a cure that doesn't fix a bigger issue with the storytelling. V was killed. Soulkiller has killed them. Meaning V ultimately fails in saving themselves no matter what. Making your choices equally about as worthless.
Once we reached Act 2 when Viktor tells you that you're going to die soon, and it looked downhill from there, I stopped bothering to do side quests, or get save money to buy a fancy ride, to want to try new perks, or whatever. I just focused on the main plot, hoping that a cure for V would be found, and then I could go back to doing side quests after finishing the main storyline.
Alas that was not the case, and after the depressing endings I have no plans to play anymore. Being teleported back in time to before the point of no return, and knowing all is for nothing, is depressing indeed.
And of course the fictional backdrop of corps stealing your soul, and in the real world, 2020 and what looks like a grim 2021 too. Geez.
Alas that was not the case, and after the depressing endings I have no plans to play anymore. Being teleported back in time to before the point of no return, and knowing all is for nothing, is depressing indeed.
And of course the fictional backdrop of corps stealing your soul, and in the real world, 2020 and what looks like a grim 2021 too. Geez.