[Spoiler Alert] About the endings

[Notserious80]

Could be that the Johnny ending is te good one. They say V disapers but could be that V and johnny swap places and V becomes the voice in the head. Could be why he leaves NC and try to restore v to the body. I meen theres like 1000 factors we just dont know about the endings and thats why its so frustarating. I still want my evil join arisaka and become there best hitman ending tho. MUhahaha and i want loads of body mods for my V. i wanna almost go full Smasher

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Oh and bed time, been awake for to long so im off! actualy spent time watching something i enjoyed and have a smile on my face! Keep going therapy group ill read up when i wake

 

[jahkin]

The same way as we met Gaunter O’Dimm early on in Witcher 3. Back then it was also only about selling mirrors.

for me both Dalamein and Alt hints future content, that will take after the main quest due to timing reasons. Both survived the main quest.
if I would pick my bets I’d say it will be about Blackwall, Alt/Dalamein and constructs and engrams. I think this is why in many endings V received soulkiller and in the one it doesn’t it still is suggested that he get one without asking.

On the one hand, Ihave trouble envisioning Delamain as the "Deus Ex Machina" solution to something so important to the main char. Mostly because ... to become super powerful you must do his quest chains...if you never did that...sich prerequisites for a DLC are not very common I think. If the Delamain-Questline was mandatory though...

On the other hand - Delamain saving V would fit the story to some degree. Delamain could not save his customer Jackie, and saw first hand how V almost died again in his cab...it would be a nice twist (though unlikely I think) if in the end it is indeed the cabbie to finally save his best and most beloved customer...

But ....hm...not expecting it ...

 

[acakomandos]

We reached HOT hell yea. Now they(CDPR) might read something

 

[Froste29]

I think the best foundation we have is to expand on the Blackwall and the AI's.
It could continue the Peralez storyline and set up the inevitable AI vs NetWatch war. We could pick sides there.

Maybe both factions will offer us a way to fix our body.
I could see nearly every ending translate fine into that.

Nomad: In a last ditch effort to save you the Aldecaldos call upon the help of an ex-member now affiliated with NetWatch/the Ai's.

Legend:
Blue Eyes is a rogue AI and wants to recruit you for the war in exchange for your life

Arasaka:
Terrified of what Alt could do, they enlist your help and support NetWatch, promising to spare no penny to restore your body in return as you take on the role of Arasaka Enforcer.

Suicide: You dead, not canon

Johnny endings:

Johnny actually went to Alt, because he felt like he owed V a body. Maybe some plot holes here.

What do you think?
I am pretty sure AI vs NetWatch HAS to happen at one point.

Regarding the Blackwall I hereby shamelessly link my predicition from 50 pages earlier.

 

[acakomandos]

On the one hand, Ihave trouble envisioning Delamain as the "Deus Ex Machina" solution to something so important to the main char. Mostly because ... to become super powerful you must do his quest chains...if you never did that...sich prerequisites for a DLC are not very common I think. If the Delamain-Questline was mandatory though...

On the other hand - Delamain saving V would fit the story to some degree. Delamain could not save his customer Jackie, and saw first hand how V almost died again in his cab...it would be a nice twist (though unlikely I think) if in the end it is indeed the cabbie to finally save his best and most beloved customer...

But ....hm...not expecting it ...

Well we can imagine at least, its nice to have a tiny bit of hope

 

[jahkin]

Well we can imagine at least, its nice to have a tiny bit of hope

Well, good endings are build on hope...or something. Ugh, Rogue One's ending also was garbage thinking of it...

My biggest hope is that CD Red preferred to make big expansions like "Heart" or "Blood/Wine" and got great fan and critical reception for those, so I hope (!) they planned it as well for CP.

I also build hope on the fact that the endings are so similar, which is a bad thing if you wanna close the story with "multiple endings", but a good thing if you wanna continue after it.

Also there was put a lot of effort into making us relate to "V" as much as possible with the first person only etc. And for maybe good reason, that the players really get invested and WANT a better solution/closure. Though a bit of a dick move - wanna save V past six months, buy DLC! But could live with that, not a big deal to me...

What diminishes my hope is the tendency of writers/devs to be all philosophical and pseudo-deep. So that CD Red does indeed think something like "all are positive endings, because now V can live life to the fullest, not just day by day" or some bullshit like that...and I fear some kind of "official" answer/interview in teh coming weeks doubling down on that...

"V's story is one of life, of living life to the fullest. And we, as a writing team, think the endings we provide to the players honour this. yadda yadda blahblah and so on"....

 

[Barsenthor]

On the one hand, Ihave trouble envisioning Delamain as the "Deus Ex Machina" solution to something so important to the main char. Mostly because ... to become super powerful you must do his quest chains...if you never did that...sich prerequisites for a DLC are not very common I think. If the Delamain-Questline was mandatory though...

On the other hand - Delamain saving V would fit the story to some degree. Delamain could not save his customer Jackie, and saw first hand how V almost died again in his cab...it would be a nice twist (though unlikely I think) if in the end it is indeed the cabbie to finally save his best and most beloved customer...

But ....hm...not expecting it ...

You can do some backstory with Delamain, so it will be just about flavor that you do those quests on your own.
Blackwall was something mentioned several times - main quest, Alt/Johnny story arc, world like this talkshow.

tho I’m pessimistic about saving V. It’s only engram route that lies ahead. With proper writing that’s fine for me, but some people will be disappointed with this.

 

[Froste29]

Well, good endings are build on hope...or something. Ugh, Rogue One's ending also was garbage thinking of it...

My biggest hope is that CD Red preferred to make big expansions like "Heart" or "Blood/Wine" and got great fan and critical reception for those, so I hope (!) they planned it as well for CP.

I also build hope on the fact that the endings are so similar, which is a bad thing if you wanna close the story with "multiple endings", but a good thing if you wanna continue after it.

Also there was put a lot of effort into making us relate to "V" as much as possible with the first person only etc. And for maybe good reason, that the players really get invested and WANT a better solution/closure. Though a bit of a dick move - wanna save V past six months, buy DLC! But could live with that, not a big deal to me...

What diminishes my hope is the tendency of writers/devs to be all philosophical and pseudo-deep. So that CD Red does indeed think something like "all are positive endings, because now V can live life to the fullest, not just day by day" or some bullshit like that...and I fear some kind of "official" answer/interview in teh coming weeks doubling down on that...

"V's story is one of life, of living life to the fullest. And we, as a writing team, think the endings we provide to the players honour this. yadda yadda blahblah and so on"....

That is what I fear, too.
Written and directed by 12 year olds hearing "Crawling in my skin" for the first time.

 

[acakomandos]

Well, good endings are build on hope...or something. Ugh, Rogue One's ending also was garbage thinking of it...

My biggest hope is that CD Red preferred to make big expansions like "Heart" or "Blood/Wine" and got great fan and critical reception for those, so I hope (!) they planned it as well for CP.

I also build hope on the fact that the endings are so similar, which is a bad thing if you wanna close the story with "multiple endings", but a good thing if you wanna continue after it.

Also there was put a lot of effort into making us relate to "V" as much as possible with the first person only etc. And for maybe good reason, that the players really get invested and WANT a better solution/closure. Though a bit of a dick move - wanna save V past six months, buy DLC! But could live with that, not a big deal to me...

What diminishes my hope is the tendency of writers/devs to be all philosophical and pseudo-deep. So that CD Red does indeed think something like "all are positive endings, because now V can live life to the fullest, not just day by day" or some bullshit like that...and I fear some kind of "official" answer/interview in teh coming weeks doubling down on that...

"V's story is one of life, of living life to the fullest. And we, as a writing team, think the endings we provide to the players honour this. yadda yadda blahblah and so on"....

We will se honestly. I really did connect with V. As I said many times I felt many emotions, and I could understand V. I would buy dlc, i really loved this game but if ending is left like this, I will simply lose any wish to continue. I really wish V could live

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That is what I fear, too.
Written and directed by 12 year olds hearing "Crawling in my skin" for the first time.

Nice one lol

 

[MandyZGaming]

Sooo....
To be honest in my opinion the ending where v gives up his body to save Jonny is the only satisfying for me.
The rest is alright but not me kind of turn out.
Like I choosed the way of going with Rouge on the last mission. I choosed it because I didn't trust hanako and I DIDNT wanted to lose panam. The outcome is that I'm becoming a legend (nice) but I lose her !
It would be better fitting for me and for v aswell if you could decide if you want to go with her when standing on the balcony with her.
Just because my intentions was just to not risk her live...

yeah, if that space heist turns to nothing, why just not stay with your love for 6 months. still crap, because 6 months, but at least they would be nice.

 

[acakomandos]

You can do some backstory with Delamain, so it will be just about flavor that you do those quests on your own.
Blackwall was something mentioned several times - main quest, Alt/Johnny story arc, world like this talkshow.

tho I’m pessimistic about saving V. It’s only engram route that lies ahead. With proper writing that’s fine for me, but some people will be disappointed with this.

We first have to see game turn on on consoles before they can work on anything. Who knows what will they do. They might even give up. But i still have hope for V to live

 

[StarkHelsing]

I have to agree with wanting at least one happy ending, or at least a smidge of hope and dreams that your V won't end up dying after six months. The possibility of survival. I love how gritty this game is; it's dark and horrific. Death is part of every day. No one escapes it. Yet the problem that I have with how the endings come into play is all of them are the same result, an untimely death no matter how hard you fight.

You're doomed as soon as act 2 comes into play, to the point that you dragging yourself out of filth is pointless. Again, wouldn't bother me if the game wasn't heavy on V trying to survive, they're giving it everything they can. They don't want to die, and yet there's no way, shape or form for them to survive.

This doesn't make sense to me, in how the game plays out. Out of all the endings, you're telling me that not one of them rewards you for your hard work? Not a single one. There is no happy ending where you make it, where you live it up for Jackie, and have a happy life with your romance.

In this world where you can swap out the entire skeleton, swap your tendons for chrome and fibre wires, rip out your eyes and replace them with new ones, get a second heart, completely have your nervous system redone. How is it that somehow replacing half a human brain, or at least creating a second chip that doesn't 'devour' but instead heals or acts as the 'brain' while working with the 'meat brain' in unison, isn't possible? It is not beyond the realm of possibility here. Freaking Maelstrom walking around with half their meat removed, including their frontal lobe - yet they're not on a six-month ticking time bomb.

It should definitely be within V's grasp, or a V who made all the connections has links and connections. Everything! A player should be rewarded for going beyond the scope and have this option available to them. Heck, even if it's hinted that it might not work, but there's a chance, it's something.

TLDR: The option should be there for survival for those who go out of their way to achieve it. As it is now, I am not rewarded for my hard work. I'm punished and leaving behind grieving friends and loved ones. I may as well have died with Jackie.

P.S People alive right now can survive with half a brain. These people were even born that way or suffered trauma—headshot wounds, lessons, etc.

 

[acakomandos]

yeah, if that space heist turns to nothing, why just stay with your love for 6 months. still crap, because 6 months, but at least they would be nice.

Its even worse if you think about it. Saul died for you, Judy lost best frend and now goes with you for what? Just to see you dying after six months, game is kinda punising you, it made me feel selfish. If that was idea 10/10 i fell shitty

 

[Simuxas]

I do really hope for better outcomes in the ending. Doing story missions is like slowly sipping cup of bleach till you die.

Another huge thing that started to annoy me in main story, every time V asks for help or find someone etc, everybody asks V to do a favor for them first, like the fk? Bruh, I'm dying here, help me out first so I can help you and don't die in the middle doing so.

 

[acakomandos]

I have to agree with wanting at least one happy ending, or at least a smidge of hope and dreams that your V won't end up dying after six months. The possibility of survival. I love how gritty this game is; it's dark and horrific. Death is part of every day. No one escapes it. Yet the problem that I have with how the endings come into play is all of them are the same result, an untimely death no matter how hard you fight.

You're doomed as soon as act 2 comes into play, to the point that you dragging yourself out of filth is pointless. Again, wouldn't bother me if the game wasn't heavy on V trying to survive, they're giving it everything they can. They don't want to die, and yet there's no way, shape or form for them to survive.

This doesn't make sense to me, in how the game plays out. Out of all the endings, you're telling me that not one of them rewards you for your hard work? Not a single one. There is no happy ending where you make it, where you live it up for Jackie, and have a happy life with your romance.

In this world where you can swap out the entire skeleton, swap your tendons for chrome and fibre wires, rip out your eyes and replace them with new ones, get a second heart, completely have your nervous system redone. How is it that somehow replacing half a human brain, or at least creating a second chip that doesn't 'devour' but instead heals or acts as the 'brain' while working with the 'meat brain' in unison, isn't possible? It is not beyond the realm of possibility here. Freaking Maelstrom walking around with half their meat removed, including their frontal lobe - yet they're not on a six-month ticking time bomb.

It should definitely be within V's grasp, or a V who made all the connections has links and connections. Everything! A player should be rewarded for going beyond the scope and have this option available to them. Heck, even if it's hinted that it might not work, but there's a chance, it's something.

TLDR: The option should be there for survival for those who go out of their way to achieve it. As it is now, I am not rewarded for my hard work. I'm punished and leaving behind grieving friends and loved ones. I may as well have died with Jackie.

P.S People alive right now can survive with half a brain. These people were even born that way or suffered trauma—headshot wounds, lessons, etc.

Agree totaly. Honestly they can just add option to shoot yourself when Jhonny suggest at begining of act 2. It would save a lot time

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I do really hope for better outcomes in the ending. Doing story missions is like slowly sipping cup of bleach till you die.

I think that we will see some answers on our "demands" or hopes. They might thought that ending was clifhanger for them to finish the story

Post automatically merged: Dec 21, 2020

Agree totaly. Honestly they can just add option to shoot yourself when Jhonny suggest at begining of act 2. It would save a lot time

Post automatically merged: Dec 21, 2020

I think that we will see some answers on our "demands" or hopes. They might thought that ending was clifhanger for them to finish the story

Or we will only get Battle Royale. Pay for Jackies skin for 11.99 $

 

[Simuxas]

Agree totaly. Honestly they can just add option to shoot yourself when Jhonny suggest at begining of act 2. It would save a lot time

Post automatically merged: Dec 21, 2020

I think that we will see some answers on our "demands" or hopes. They might thought that ending was clifhanger for them to finish the story

Something tells me the story is half finished since something got fucked in development and they just had to release the game. I assume they just went.

And just went with it.

And if they release Battle Royale mode, I do believe that my faith in gaming will be lost forever at that point.

 

[acakomandos]

Something tells me the story is half finished since something got fucked in development and they just had to release the game. I assume they just went.
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And just went with it.

And if they release Battle Royale mode, I do believe that my faith in gaming will be lost forever at that point.

Honestly it might be that. They needed pre alpha testers. Like this they get all the money + free feedback

 

[Simuxas]

At this point their MP vision is probably gonna be like GTA5 but with less people in the city. Doing some co-op gigs most likely, but that is really far away right now.

 

[Artemoon1992]

At least in this ending the fewest of your friends die in the end. But you still get *Soulkilled* once you reach Mikoshi.

They should have just let us plant another nuke in Mikoshi and bring everything down, instead of this "Let's make a copy" bullshit.

What happened in the space? Did V suicide? or he s going to casino? Why is air going out?

 

[Simuxas]

What happened in the space? Did V suicide? or he s going to casino? Why is air going out?

Ehh, it's similar to Aldecado one, it ends up with black screen. V ( or a copy of V) basically going out to last gig before death. And air is not coming out, that's the space suit boosters. Nobody knows what's happening to V there, but since there is no closure everybody assumes death.
The blue eyed man asked to steal something.