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[Spoiler Alert] About the endings

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Do you want more RPGs with happy endings?

  • Yes, I miss happy endings.

    Votes: 410 45.0%
  • No, I am content with the endings currently offered.

    Votes: 84 9.2%
  • I think that the option should be available for those who want it.

    Votes: 268 29.4%
  • It’s more complicated than that.

    Votes: 149 16.4%

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Providur

Providur

Fresh user
#4,821
Dec 21, 2020
Simuxas said:
V doesn't get soulkilled in it, and it's the main ending of the game, no need for side quests. And if Arasaka got stronger and gonna go to wat with Militech, more story plot for V.
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You dont get soulkilled but cause another corporate war, in my mind that is ten times worse.
 
Solidus2kill

Solidus2kill

Forum regular
#4,822
Dec 21, 2020
the most disappointing thing is that we don't have a ng+
 
tRYSIS3

tRYSIS3

Forum regular
#4,823
Dec 21, 2020
pEestino said:
Corpo lifepath is not corpo at all to begin with, you become a mobster like 1 hour in don't you?
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you're coming from a corpo background, and you get specific dialogue options because of it (useless). Not to mention you can role-play as a corpo if u want.
 
pEestino

pEestino

Forum regular
#4,824
Dec 21, 2020
Simuxas said:
V doesn't get soulkilled in it, and it's the main ending of the game, no need for side quests. And if Arasaka got stronger and gonna go to wat with Militech, more story plot for V.
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You're still an engram, you're not really -you-, which begs the question, couldn't Alt just make an engram instead of soulkilling but then again, no explanation, doesn't even explain why "everything" is gonna be different, I feel like it's more of a placeholder so it more or less fits with every ending.. If everything changed surely they should've shown it in the ending sequences but they don't.. Not in every ending. (King of NC shows this for example imo)
 
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Simuxas

Simuxas

Senior user
#4,825
Dec 21, 2020
pEestino said:
You're still an engram, you're not really -you-, which begs the question, couldn't Alt just make an engram instead of soulkilling but then again, no explanation, doesn't even explain why "everything" is gonna be different, I feel like it's more of a placeholder so it more or less fits with every ending.. If everything changed surely they should've shown it in the ending sequences but they don't.. Not in every ending. (King of NC shows this for example imo)
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In Arasaka ending V gets a surgery, chip gets removed, but still gets told that he/she dies in 6 months.
 
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SaulTuk

SaulTuk

Forum regular
#4,826
Dec 21, 2020
The endings are just right, grim and sad as it should be. There can be no lasting happiness in a world, ravaged by capitalism in its pure, predator form. Even the "free" nomads are still the cogs in a system, raiding caravans and smuggling goods, filling the dirty and controversial niche. And yes, carma-wise V deserved death in 6 months. Man who freely chose to make a living through violence usually meets abrupt and violent death before 30s. Part of me were agreed to leave the mortal realm and step into world of digits, if not for Panam and other people, good people. V didn't deserved their love and friendship but is still obliged to respect it.
In the end V, and player too, have to decide, does he still really believes in anything at all in this world, perpetually tormented by animal part of human nature. Friendship, love, brotherhood, family, wealth, power, glory? Or better through all this away and step into new world? Perhaps, in cyberspace, with different laws defining this world, thing could be different?
 
pEestino

pEestino

Forum regular
#4,827
Dec 21, 2020
chibimaniac said:
The Nomad ending for me was like "please help me, I am afraid to die, so I will send all you guys and girls to die instead". Cmon, I am an adult person, I want to solve my problems by my own and then decide what to do. Maybe I wanted to kill everybody in Arasaka and then return to Nomads like a true champion, not like a useless junk. All nomads in camp was like "poor V, we will help you and die for you", but I want nothing of this. I wanted to take Johnny (don't use any medicine) and deal with my own problems and then enjoy the life.
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I genuinely reloaded after picking Panam because I thought they'd all die including her, what'd be the odds? In the end countless unnamed npcs die and only 3 named so I was like "Eh ok nice plot armor but atleast I don't have depression."
 
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StarkHelsing

StarkHelsing

Forum regular
#4,828
Dec 21, 2020
Providur said:
You dont get soulkilled but cause another corporate war, in my mind that is ten times worse.
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Simuxas said:
In Arasaka ending V gets a surgery, chip gets removed, but still gets told that he/she dies in 6 months.
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So this is just, you're not going to get killed but we're going to probably use you, later on, to work for us as a merc. Makes me wonder if we do still have the six months, or if they're just saying that to keep you connected to them.
 
Simuxas

Simuxas

Senior user
#4,829
Dec 21, 2020
SaulTuk said:
The endings are just right, grim and sad as it should be. There can be no lasting happiness in a world, ravaged by capitalism in its pure, predator form. Even the "free" nomads are still the cogs in a system, raiding caravans and smuggling goods, filling the dirty and controversial niche. And yes, carma-wise V deserved death in 6 months. Man who freely chose to make a living through violence usually meets abrupt and violent death before 30s. Part of me were agreed to leave the mortal realm and step into world of digits, if not for Panam and other people, good people. V didn't deserved their love and friendship but is still obliged to respect it.
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pEestino

pEestino

Forum regular
#4,830
Dec 21, 2020
Solidus2kill said:
the most disappointing thing is that we don't have a ng+
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It's probably one of the dlcs, it's the only kind of replayability this game offers sadly, it's literally a no-brainer dlc to make and it would make sense to have it, not to mention they confirmed it in 2019.
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SaulTuk said:
The endings are just right, grim and sad as it should be. There can be no lasting happiness in a world, ravaged by capitalism in its pure, predator form. Even the "free" nomads are still the cogs in a system, raiding caravans and smuggling goods, filling the dirty and controversial niche. And yes, carma-wise V deserved death in 6 months. Man who freely chose to make a living through violence usually meets abrupt and violent death before 30s. Part of me were agreed to leave the mortal realm and step into world of digits, if not for Panam and other people, good people. V didn't deserved their love and friendship but is still obliged to respect it.
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Everyone in the CP world abuses and does violence/crime w/e infact corpos probably do it more often than streetkids and nomads, they even buy Maelstromm to do their shady businesses..
 
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Simuxas

Simuxas

Senior user
#4,831
Dec 21, 2020
pEestino said:
It's probably one of the dlcs, it's the only kind of replayability this game offers sadly, it's literally a no-brainer dlc to make and it would make sense to have it, not to mention they confirmed it in 2019.
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NG+ in game like this makes no sense, same as it would make no sense in TW3. If you begin as a fully decked out merc and getting one punched by DEX's bodyguard then, ughhh

Continuation after main story? Yes, of course, with new stuff to do, new activities, new gigs
 
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pEestino

pEestino

Forum regular
#4,832
Dec 21, 2020
Simuxas said:
NG+ in game like this makes no sense, same as it would make no sense in TW3. If you begin as a fully decked out merc and getting one punched by DEX's bodyguard then, ughhh
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Story-wise it wouldn't make sense, no, but I want to open a few doors, hack a few terminals that I could not during the main story to find out what info those hold and if it would've changed my POV first playthrough, not to mention it's just to wait for the next expansion/dlc or simply to experience the fixed game (when it will be).
Because one thing in games I hate is starting over all the time, it's just how I am sadly..
 
SaulTuk

SaulTuk

Forum regular
#4,833
Dec 21, 2020
pEestino said:
It's probably one of the dlcs, it's the only kind of replayability this game offers sadly, it's literally a no-brainer dlc to make and it would make sense to have it, not to mention they confirmed it in 2019.
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Everyone in the CP world abuses and does violence/crime w/e infact corpos probably do it more often than streetkids and nomads, they even buy Maelstromm to do their shady businesses..
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Violence breeds violence. And violence of corps doesn't absolve anything
 
Simuxas

Simuxas

Senior user
#4,834
Dec 21, 2020
pEestino said:
Story-wise it wouldn't make sense, no, but I want to open a few doors, hack a few terminals that I could not during the main story to find out what info those hold and if it would've changed my POV first playthrough, not to mention it's just to wait for the next expansion/dlc or simply to experience the fixed game (when it will be).
Because one thing in games I hate is starting over all the time, it's just how I am sadly..
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Adapt your build to them then, don't play every game the same :shrug:
That is what multiple playthroughs are for, experimenting with what you can come up with builds and taking different choices
 
A

AKANexus

Forum regular
#4,835
Dec 21, 2020
WTF... Almost 250 pages???? I'm sorry, I can't keep up with the thread to keep doing the summaries... Which is a good thing, though... Means more and more people are pissed with CDPR :shrug:
 
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Froste29

Froste29

Forum regular
#4,836
Dec 21, 2020
chibimaniac said:
I know CDPR have more important things to do right now, but I also remember how players were unsatisfied with the W3 Triss romance ending (both dialogs and other stuff). And after some time CDPR improved that in the game and released a small update with it. I just hope that some day CDPR will also re-work those endings as well.

For me, the most disappointing part was not even the lack of true "good ending", but the so-called secret ending. It was pretty tough and hard (especially on max difficulty level). And what I received for that? Almost nothing. The same ending that you've got, if you let Johnny to decide. Yeah, some folks will be alive, but you can't even enjoy it, because you can't choose what to do next - leave the NC or try to become a legend. You can't even enjoy the nomad pass anymore, because you can't go with them.

The Nomad ending for me was like "please help me, I am afraid to die, so I will send all you guys and girls to die instead". Cmon, I am an adult person, I want to solve my problems by my own and then decide what to do. Maybe I wanted to kill everybody in Arasaka and then return to Nomads like a true champion, not like a useless junk. All nomads in camp was like "poor V, we will help you and die for you", but I want nothing of this. I wanted to take Johnny (don't use any medicine) and deal with my own problems and then enjoy the life.

I just hope that devs will add such option someday. At least it will be a good reward for players, who achieved that secret ending - to choose what to do with the rest of their life.
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Intriguing, I didn't know about the Triss update. What did they change exactly?
 
pEestino

pEestino

Forum regular
#4,837
Dec 21, 2020
SaulTuk said:
Violence breeds violence. And violence of corps doesn't absolve anything
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It's a fucked world but we have to consider 2 things:
1) It's a game, lots of people use it to escape reality which is already depressing for some of us, or can be easily, I don't want to have a void in me just because there's no "ok" (not even good, just neutral) ending and I have to wait 11 more years for cp78
2)Sure CP is basically grimdark but it doesn't lack hope, I think nomads have it pretty honestly, if you check the maps, they're hunted by corpos but they're ultimately free and they like dying as free men, I think that's the epitome of hope.
Also it doesn't excuse the fact that there's no neutral ending, like.. Sure, it's dark, depressing et.c etc., it doesn't -HAVE- to be the world is there to provide challenges and it did and challenged morals, I'm still thinking about the whole soulkilling thing and what really makes us humans.
 
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Simuxas

Simuxas

Senior user
#4,838
Dec 21, 2020
SaulTuk said:
Violence breeds violence. And violence of corps doesn't absolve anything
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A guy that blows up 12k people with nuclear weapon can get a second chance in almost all of the endings, yet someone like V, get's screwed by some fatso and then tries hardest to find a way to survive, deserves to die? In all 7 outcomes?

If the world is dark, doesn't mean that stories in that world needs to end in dark.
If its dark in the room, it doesn't mean that lightbulb went out, it might mean you didn't pay your fkn taxes.
 
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General_Sharkseant

General_Sharkseant

Fresh user
#4,839
Dec 21, 2020
Providur said:
What is it with people suddenly saying that Arasaka ending is best, when in reality it's the worst, you become sellout, Saburo is back, Arasaka is stronger than ever, and they declare war on Militech which will cause many casualties.
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i think the arasaka endign is pretty bad because you basically are being told that you were operated successfully but you still die eventhough the chip was removed and also the bad brain parts were removed. i like the touch of jonny still being in your brain but everything else is pretty bad. though i think that the war with militek is actuially stiopped yorinobu wanted to war agains militekt to unite the factions of araska but when the old one is bag they dont want a war anymore becuase it is too expensive though i might have missed soem parts. i took that ending becaus ei didnt even know that was the ending neither did i know there were other options (i didnt do the panam thing at this poinbt because i really thought i will die) and i also though about my mercenary as a cold mercenary doing everyjob no matter what as long as he gets payed. though with some exceptions as i also thought of him as loyal to his friends etc.
 
StarkHelsing

StarkHelsing

Forum regular
#4,840
Dec 21, 2020
SaulTuk said:
Violence breeds violence. And violence of corps doesn't absolve anything
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Yeah, but with this, you can't bring up Karma and we deserve to die when the guys we're up against are the bigger fish who've done way more damage than you ever have. So why do we deserve to die but the big bad wolf gets to live? Karma having a laugh? You can do horrible things and yet you can also be human, you can help people in dire need. You can reject gigs that are morally repulsive while doing those that rid the streets of vermin.

Corpo's butcher people for the sake of business and their own gain. Even killing innocents for the sake of 'loose ends' or 'oops, we messed up but let's just say they were smugglers anyway'.

Almost everyone in this world is corrupt in some form or fashion who actually has some sort of substance of character.

Karma doesn't give a damn and if anything you are Karma for the filth you're putting out of commission. Right down to the fact that Karma is dead, like you in the end.
 
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