[Spoiler Alert] About the endings

[Silariell]

I think one thing people are missing is that Cyberpunk is a genre that rarely has a happy ending

This is such a terrible excuse. Genres in in of themselves shouldn't define the direction of a story. Heck;; I'd go as far as to say cyberpunk is just 'chrome fantasy', with us as plucky adventurers going on quests to slay mecha-dragons. Is it really that far of a stretch to have a story in such world where the hero slays the dragon, gets their prince/ss and lives... Somewhat happily ever after?

I thought the whole point of Cyberpunk was to rebel against authority. Authority such as 'Cyberpunk can't have happy endings'. :thonk:

 

[MeinChurro]

I think one thing people are missing is that Cyberpunk is a genre that rarely has a happy ending as almost a defining feature due to the setting and its heavy Nior influences. A great defining line I've seen about it is that the protagonist doesn't get ahead in life, at best they get back to where they started at the beginning of the story. I think if CDPR had made a "best" ending, it would have felt pretty phony.

Here's the thing though. Their intended ending IS A HAPPY ONE... for Johnny (rather bittersweet). That's the irony here, when people make comments like this. The game is all about Johnny, happy times with Johnny, your FRIENDSHIP with Johnny. The other endings are frowned upon in the dialogue, and you are pushed towards Johnny thoughout the story.

I'm sorry guys, but I've about had enough with comments trying to justify these trash endings.

 

[Beldamon]

The ultra-buggy state of the game is almost a good thing in some ways for CDPR.

They can easily brush things like this thread or missing features/content or crappy romances, or censorship under the rug, while they focus on making the game playable for the part of the player base that is sticking with them.
By the sound of things, they won't get it to that state until February.

By that time anyone who cared about any of the other stuff will have moved on.

 

[Motsie]

The V you play dies. The copy V isn't V. It is a copy. The entire plot of saving yourself is defunct. The copy isn't saving yourself. The copy is a separate entity. They (apparently) even say in the story it's not the cure your looking for - if what I've read in this thread is true.

Ship of Theseus. V's body is still there - just effectively no brain activity. From V's perspective they are still the same person. Copy or not. It's certainly an interesting and provoking question in the whole realm of transhumanism and whether I'm still me if I upload myself into a computer.

Is Jarvis still Jarvis after being interred into a physical body? *shrug*

As I said before, having sad/edgy world doesn't mean we have to have sad endings.

Yeah exactly. Panam, Judy, Mitch, and others can all get happy outcomes for themselves. Why not V?

 

[BabalKabak]

saving yourself

sorry, I can't stop laughing but I think it's nervous. Really sorry pal.

 

[marccspector]

There is actually one thing i wonder,if you do Johnny's sidequest the percent goes up.If i don't let Johnny take over my body during the story will that have an impact?

 

[Zeus_19]

Finished the main quest a few hours ago and it seems I got the best one out of the possible 7. I left Night City with the Aldecaldos & Judy. I personally thought that was a happy ending, a well-needed fresh start. It was still an emotional ending which left me in tears.

I wish there was an ending where V got cured & remained in night city but we'll see what happens in the 3 story expansions (first one coming in a few months)

 

[marccspector]

Finished the main quest a few hours ago and it seems I got the best one out of the possible 7. I left Night City with the Aldecaldos & Judy. I personally thought that was a happy ending, a well-needed fresh start. It was still an emotional ending which left me in tears.

I wish there was an ending where V got cured & remained in night city but we'll see what happens in the 3 story expansions (first one coming in a few months)

Cyberpunk players can count on paid DLCs in a similar amount. The developers emphasize, however, that the story of the main game is over and that "no content is artificially held back for DLCs."
So the add-ons do not fill in critical cliffhanger gaps, but are additional, optional stories - according to Alvin Liu from CD Projekt RED.
source:https://www.gamestar.de/artikel/cyberpunk-2077-dlc-addon,3361195.html

 

[BGM45]

The ultra-buggy state of the game is almost a good thing in some ways for CDPR.

They can easily brush things like this thread or missing features/content or crappy romances, or censorship under the rug, while they focus on making the game playable for the part of the player base that is sticking with them.
By the sound of things, they won't get it to that state until February.

By that time anyone who cared about any of the other stuff will have moved on.

unless fixing the game actually leads to more people playing through the endings and the issue truly reaching ME3's proportions. I hope no one orders cupcakes this time

 

[AKANexus]

Cyberpunk players can count on paid DLCs in a similar amount. The developers emphasize, however, that the story of the main game is over and that "no content is artificially held back for DLCs."
So the add-ons do not fill in critical cliffhanger gaps, but are additional, optional stories - according to Alvin Liu from CD Projekt RED.
source:https://www.gamestar.de/artikel/cyberpunk-2077-dlc-addon,3361195.html

As long as saving oneself is an optiona story, I'm in...

 

[BGM45]

Cyberpunk players can count on paid DLCs in a similar amount. The developers emphasize, however, that the story of the main game is over and that "no content is artificially held back for DLCs."
So the add-ons do not fill in critical cliffhanger gaps, but are additional, optional stories - according to Alvin Liu from CD Projekt RED.
source:https://www.gamestar.de/artikel/cyberpunk-2077-dlc-addon,3361195.html

Motsie gave a bit of context for this quote here.

I'm starting to think this topic needs a kind of sticked post for people who are new since it's >25 pages now. like, yes, we know cyberpunk is a grimdark genre; no, we don't want the happiest ending ever; here are our theories, here are our resources, you are welcome to join the discussion.

 

[Simuxas]

Motsie gave a bit of context for this quote here.

I'm starting to think this topic needs a kind of sticked post for people who are new. like, yeah, we know cyberpunk is a grimdark genre; no, we don't want the happiest ending ever; here are our theories, here are our resources, you are welcome to join the discussion.

Doesn't really matter what they said. We just need to make this thread grow so we get a response, and hopefully a promising one. Not like we are asking to do anything major.

 

[AegonTheBeast]

Yeah I felt my ending was bittersweet with that 6 months thing and me being with Judy. I wish there was more I could do with her, a continuation of it would be nice. From what little I've read to minimize spoilers for myself it seems that there really isn't a happy ending. I am curious what happens next after the nomad ending, maybe that's the best one? First I completed anyhow. Well that's what DLC is for. I'm 100% all our concerns will be addressed in the DLC's soon to come. The game is great but it needs a little more work within the cracks to make it better. Maybe even introduce a new ending or some sort of continuation after the ending or a more fleshed out romance.

 

[NChabb]

One thing that I don't see mentioned a lot is the random "Old relic malfunction" condition that can plague V momentarily from time to time.

... We're stuck with that since we can't have a save post-story.

 

[BGM45]

Doesn't really matter what they said. We just need to make this thread grow so we get a response, and hopefully a promising one. Not like we are asking to do anything major.

I agree with you, but if there is no response at least we have a sliver of hope that they're playing 4D chess with DLCs (terribly) and we just haven't seen the full picture. defeatism from incorrectly reading that quote/article won't help anyone.

 

[Simuxas]

One thing that I don't see mentioned a lot is the random "Old relic malfunction" condition that can plague V momentarily from time to time.

... We're stuck with that since we can't have a save post-story.

Yeah, I rushed through the story so I can just get rid of that douchebag inside V and then just enjoy the city.

 

[AKANexus]

Meh... I'm done with this game for now... Ima have my dinner and play something nice for a change... Check back in a few hours... Out!

 

[vinjard]

Welll .... I ended geting help from Hanako....... FOr me it was sad..... But it is what it is..
Then i watched some other endings... That feeling that V gona die anyways what he does ... troubles me.
1. We need one ending god .removing johnny succesfully,so i can go explore night city and love my PANAM and dont die.
2.One ending were Johhny leaves with ALT and V still lives.
3. One ending were we merge together with Johnny and gain new skill slot( there is one in Character menu)
4. One ending were we chose to get new body ,or a cyberbody and live on ( like in altered carbon).

 

[Silariell]

2. One ending were we chose to get new body ,or a cyberbody and live on ( like in altered carbon).

This is one thing I also don't understand. They can literally replace any and all body parts (see: adam smasher), why can't they do the same to V? They clearly have the technology to upload an entire person into a tiny chip, why can't they just replace all the broken parts? I mean I know why, because the story won't be dramatic if they could. But this entire plot device of 'uploading an entire person' opens such a giant can of worms for the story at large, I think it was a mistake to include it.

Actually, I watched a video on adam smasher lore, this is LITERALLY what happens. The man gets blown to meaty chunks and put back together into a new, metal body by Arasaka in exchange for 15 years of service. Why can't V get the same treatment?

 

[BabalKabak]

Well, Cyberpunk is about saving yourself, the struggle, not about being sucessful in it. It's a tragedy where people are trapped by destiny, despite struggling to break free.

But despite that, there are some happy endings for V, gaining 6 months of life could be the happiest ending in a distopic world.

Maybe people were expecting something happier.

And thinking about Silverhand, if you choose to "save" him instead of V, you'll actually making him a prisioner in a world that he hates, hunted by the memories of killing and using the body of the only guy that "understood" him (depending on how V developed your relation with him), and alone because the only people that's left in the world are either dead, or hates him (Eurodyne).

So, there is no place for Silverhand in 2077, even Eurodyne's way of life is dying (as made clear in his mission with the asian girls).

I understand why people got frustrated, it's sad to play for so long to end up dead or dead in a near future.

As a tragic story is very good, I liked it very much, I'm certainly going for a second round.

Yes, and you are true in a sense when you talk about the cyberpunk genre.

But think about this : In my (2 cents) opinion, there are stories good for reading / watching (non-interactive), and there are stories good for playing as the major protagonist (interactive). To me, the scenario of Cyberpunk 2077 suited for a book or a movie story, not a game where you put all your implication for dozens of hours, making your avatar progress, growing some affection for the avatar progress, etc.

NOW Imagine in a FANTASTIC world ingenuously called "The Legend of Zelda 2077" : you play as Link, sooo bad news you've been diagnosed a cancer from the beginnings but you must save the Kingdom, so you make Link grow in power so he can search for a fairy that can cure him, and/or do the main quest and become the legend of the kingdom, whatever pleases you... So you play the game for about 50-100 hours... and in the final sequence, Ganon kills your friends, says that the Kingdom is doomed forever, then he makes bad things to Zelda in front of your eyes, she's broken, then finally, your character feels like a worthless piece of crap and commits suicide. THE END

Would you accept that ending... really
I think that some stories are more suited to non-interactive medias.