[Spoiler Alert] About the endings

[tRYSIS3]

It's why I think the 6 months thing is a decoy for a sequel/expansion, it's too often recurring in nearly every ending, it'll cause strife, it'll be the thing that keeps you going, preventing V from a normal happy life, adding new goals, if we just left and lived happily ever after well, where would the sequel pick up from?

That's not the impression I got from the ending at all, if that's an attempt at building up for a sequel/DLC then it's a pathetic one. First of all, there won't be a sequel anytime soon, if ever. The multiplayer won't be released before 2022, and even then you know they will be supporting it for years to come. Second, V is not that interesting of a character, at least CDPR themselves seem to think so, hence the endings. Even moreso is the fact that they changed V's look throughout their marketing campaign, to them the character doesn't have a specific look, it's expendable.

Let's not get into their reputation, if that's the game we are going to end up with, then you me and many others won't ever be buying anything from them again.

 

[Hammerstein]

True, although V's death allowed Alt to liberate soul-killed netrunners and give Johny a freedom from Relic. No small gain in terms of human lives saved

Liberate? She assimilated those engrams to grow more powerful herself. And the engrams had no say in this.

 

[SaulTuk]

Liberate? She assimilated those engrams to grow more powerful herself. And the engrams had no say in this.

Agreed, more like benevolent dictatorship. Still, with them Alt have the power to destroy capital from cyberspace. And we cannot know, if Alt is any better than corps soul prison. Probably she is, because nothing can be worse than corps

 

[tRYSIS3]

Lmao, this game just got meta as hell:


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Would have loved to laugh at this but it's just pathetic. It's similar to how the game is about the negative side of corpo, yet they treat their customers and employees like trash.

 

[SaulTuk]

Would have loved to laugh at this but it's just pathetic. It's similar to how the game is about the negative side of corpo, yet they treat their customers and employees like trash.

Cyberpunk is coming to our lives)

 

[Arkei1]

That's not the impression I got from the ending at all, if that's an attempt at building up for a sequel/DLC then it's a pathetic one. First of all, there won't be a sequel anytime soon, if ever. The multiplayer won't be released before 2022, and even then you know they will be supporting it for years to come. Second, V is not that interesting of a character, at least CDPR themselves seem to think so, hence the endings. Even moreso is the fact that they changed V's look throughout their marketing campaign, to them the character doesn't have a specific look, it's expendable.

I disagree. To me, the ending feels like one big cliffhanger and can pretty easily be continued. There are basically 2 different outcomes:

1. Death
2. 6 months to live

The endings resulting in V's death would obviously not be continued.
The 6 months endings could all lead to the same result:

1. The space heist. You do a small mission, in exchange, Mr.Blue Eyes tells you where you can find a cure
2. Nomad. You meet Panams contacts, they tell you where to find a cure.
3. Arasaka and back to earth. You meet someone else (maybe Mr. Blue Eyes), who tells you where to find a cure.

All 3 branches would be one again.

It's not about a sequel, it's about the single-player expansions they talked about. Continuing V's story makes way more sense than introducing a new character or adding mid-game content when the story already leads to sidequests being ignored.

They need to figure this out, or they only have Witcher as a franchise, that would not be good.

 

[pEestino]

That's not the impression I got from the ending at all, if that's an attempt at building up for a sequel/DLC then it's a pathetic one. First of all, there won't be a sequel anytime soon, if ever. The multiplayer won't be released before 2022, and even then you know they will be supporting it for years to come. Second, V is not that interesting of a character, at least CDPR themselves seem to think so, hence the endings. Even moreso is the fact that they changed V's look throughout their marketing campaign, to them the character doesn't have a specific look, it's expendable.

Let's not get into their reputation, if that's the game we are going to end up with, then you me and many others won't ever be buying anything from them again.

Well V always changed true but it was more or less similar, they want to keep the concept of V as a character, arch, depth, I don't think it's necessary to bind it to a male/female figure or anything in that regard.
Either way every good plot needs a meaningful drive and the 6 month one is a legit one if explained well, except it was just kinda shoved in our asses.

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Yes, at very least some cutscenes about Alt, Johny and other soul-killed planning to obliterate corps from cyberspace would be nice

I don't think Alt is powerful enough for that -yet- I think there are way more powerful AIs than Alt beyond the blackwall, she's grown stronger because she's sheltered every soulkiller victim in her haven beyond the blackwall according to lore.
The server was located in NC or the white wastes of Canada, after a bioplague ruined HK it was placed there
https://cyberpunk.fandom.com/wiki/Alt_Cunningham < source but idk, technically should be canon, not sure.

 

[MeinChurro]

Oh, I was doing the same. I played Witcher 3, loved it and saw the original teaser trailer for Cyberpunk back then. I avoided everything as much as I could. I never watched the gameplay, I never saw Night City Wire, etc. Because I know things get overhyped easily, but overhype is not the only reason why Cyberpunk has so many problems. I loved my 2 playthroughs of Cyberpunk. Both were so much fun, I completed them on PS4, ignoring the bugs and crashes. And that's why the missing impact of choices and the "7" endings burn so much more.
The game has really good and round characters. The world feels very atmospheric. The character-related sidequests let you discover certain aspects of this world in more depths (for example Rivers questline is about the law, corruption, justice. Judy is about loss and revenge.). And then the short main story, who pushed you to ignore sidestuff because you need to hurry, V is dying, breaks your immersion by loading a save before the point of no return, stopping the whole fun you had just doing the sidecontent. Great. In my opinion, and I've said that before, the game would have been better with more of these sidequests and no main story at all.

Same. I skipped much of the press, and thought I had an understandable level of expectation. I just didn't think I'd get tricked that this game was an RPG. That was like a baseline expectation. The game turned out better than I expected in other fields, like combat. But I never once thought that I wasn't getting an RPG. I just assumed that was a given. Especially with CDPR behind the wheel.

I've poured hundreds upon hundreds of hours in The Witcher series, and I was expecting a similar level of writing quality and player choice. There are glimpses of it here, don't get me wrong, but the game in general is devoid of choice. Not even close to the level offered in their previous games.

 

[SaulTuk]

Well V always changed true but it was more or less similar, they want to keep the concept of V as a character, arch, depth, I don't think it's necessary to bind it to a male/female figure or anything in that regard.
Either way every good plot needs a meaningful drive and the 6 month one is a legit one if explained well, except it was just kinda shoved in our asses.

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I don't think Alt is powerful enough for that -yet- I think there are way more powerful AIs than Alt beyond the blackwall, she's grown stronger because she's sheltered every soulkiller victim in her haven beyond the blackwall according to lore.
The server was located in NC or the white wastes of Canada, after a bioplague ruined HK it was placed there
https://cyberpunk.fandom.com/wiki/Alt_Cunningham < source but idk, technically should be canon, not sure.

Okay, cutscenes about Alt gathering strength, making contact with other rogur AI and planning to eventually attack the corps.

 

[tRYSIS3]

I disagree. To me, the ending feels like one big cliffhanger and can pretty easily be continued. There are basically 2 different outcomes:

1. Death
2. 6 months to live

The endings resulting in V's death would obviously not be continued.
The 6 months endings could all lead to the same result:

1. The space heist. You do a small mission, in exchange, Mr.Blue Eyes tells you where you can find a cure
2. Nomad. You meet Panams contacts, they tell you where to find a cure.
3. Arasaka and back to earth. You meet someone else (maybe Mr. Blue Eyes), who tells you where to find a cure.

All 3 branches would be one again.

It's not about a sequel, it's about the single-player expansions they talked about. Continuing V's story makes way more sense than introducing a new character or adding mid-game content when the story already leads to sidequests being ignored.

They need to figure this out, or they only have Witcher as a franchise, that would not be good.

The 3 starts you pointed out are not life paths, why would anyone take one over the other? Might as well as add more options like:

1. You play as Johnny taking the bus back to NC to help V escape cyberspace
2. You play as V fighting their way out of cyberspace
3. You play as Takemura trying to find a new body for your engram

The current endings feel like how disney stories end with "they lived happily ever after", you never see a movie about the "living happily" part, it would be lame. The endings of Cyberpunk read like "and V dies at the end alone/with friends/legend" we don't actually need to see any of those things. We are told you "inevitably die" which is final.

That's why most of us here are asking for a different ending or a "fix" because the current endings do not need to expanded upon. We already spent an entire game trying to find a cure for V and we found nothing, I'm not going to spend more time doing the same thing because what would be the point? If V is going to be cured at the end of the DLC anyway, then why wasn't V cured in the main game? It's not an interesting story to begin with. We are not playing Cyberpunk to find a cure to cancer, or is that what the genre is about and I missed it?

 

[pEestino]

That's why most of us here are asking for a different ending or a "fix" because the current endings do not need to expanded upon. We already spent an entire game trying to find a cure for V and we found nothing, I'm not going to spend more time doing the same thing because what would be the point? If V is going to be cured at the end of the DLC anyway, then why wasn't V cured in the main game? It's not an interesting story to begin with. We are not playing Cyberpunk to find a cure to cancer, or is that what the genre is about and I missed it?

The main game has plotholes and problems as is, I'd rather have them release a proper 30 hour long expansion in 2022 at this rate that fixes all our doubts and that is as engaging as the main story, because it was engaging, just not very branching (at all).

 

[MeinChurro]

The 3 starts you pointed out are not life paths, why would anyone take one over the other? Might as well as add more options like:

1. You play as Johnny taking the bus back to NC to help V escape cyberspace
2. You play as V fighting their way out of cyberspace
3. You play as Takemura trying to find a new body for your engram

The current endings feel like how disney stories end with "they lived happily ever after", you never see a movie about the "living happily" part, it would be lame. The endings of Cyberpunk read like "and V dies at the end alone/with friends/legend" we don't actually need to see any of those things. We are told you "inevitably die" which is final.

That's why most of us here are asking for a different ending or a "fix" because the current endings do not need to expanded upon. We already spent an entire game trying to find a cure for V and we found nothing, I'm not going to spend more time doing the same thing because what would be the point? If V is going to be cured at the end of the DLC anyway, then why wasn't V cured in the main game? It's not an interesting story to begin with. We are not playing Cyberpunk to find a cure to cancer, or is that what the genre is about and I missed it?

You know I never thought of that. If they do do an expansion DLC and it's just the 6 months left V find a cure, it is literally just the main story all over again, just (potentially) no Johnny. God. They really screwed this story. Such wasted potential.

 

[Arkei1]

The 3 starts you pointed out are not life paths, why would anyone take one over the other? Might as well as add more options like:

1. You play as Johnny taking the bus back to NC to help V escape cyberspace
2. You play as V fighting their way out of cyberspace
3. You play as Takemura trying to find a new body for your engram

The current endings feel like how disney stories end with "they lived happily ever after", you never see a movie about "living happily" part, it would be lame. The endings of Cyberpunk read like "and V dies at the end alone/with friends/legend" we don't actually need to see any of those things. We are told you "inevitably die" which it's final.

That's why most of us here are asking for a different ending or a "fix" because the current endings do not need to expanded upon. We already spent an entire game trying to find a cure for V and we found nothing, I'm not going to spend more time doing the same thing because what would be the point? If V is going to be cured at the end of the DLC anyway, then why wasn't V cured in the main game? It's not an interesting story to begin with. We are not playing Cyberpunk to find a cure to cancer, or is that what the genre is about and I missed it?

Oh, don't get me wrong. I hate the endings they gave us. I'm just saying I expect something like that to happen

 

[tRYSIS3]

The main game has plotholes and problems as is, I'd rather have them release a proper 30 hour long expansion in 2022 at this rate that fixes all our doubts and that is as engaging as the main story, because it was engaging, just not very branching (at all).

The thing is, why would anyone buy it if the game is a disappointment? Also, are we going to play as V or a new character?

 

[pEestino]

You know I never thought of that. If they do do an expansion DLC and it's just the 6 months left V find a cure, it is literally just the main story all over again, just (potentially) no Johnny. God. They really screwed this story. Such wasted potential.

I genuinely think they just fucked up the cliff-hanger with the whole 6 months thing.
I think they want to continue V just don't know where to start lol.
As for expansion, everything is game and yet very few options would be interesting considering the endings.

 

[tRYSIS3]

You know I never thought of that. If they do do an expansion DLC and it's just the 6 months left V find a cure, it is literally just the main story all over again, just (potentially) no Johnny. God. They really screwed this story. Such wasted potential.

That's what I have been saying, the endings are final because there is no point to expand upon them. We need better endings.

 

[pEestino]

The thing is, why would anyone buy it if the game is a disappointment? Also, are we going to play as V or a new character?

We don't know what expansion is about, which ending is canon, there's a big possibility that V can live even through sheer plot armor.

 

[MeinChurro]

The thing is, why would anyone buy it if the game is a disappointment? Also, are we going to play as V or a new character?

That's the conundrum. They can make the expansion story based on V finding his/her cure, or they can find something off-screen. *6 months later* "hey you got cured during those 6 months btw, NEW STORY".

Still, if I can find a cure and save real V, I'd be happy. A prequel in 2022 wouldn't even work, the City looked completely different, and I highly doubt they are going to rebuild the city (unless it's an even more on rails expansion). A spin-off with a new character would be disappointing (and in a game where you can create your own character, I'd expect to create that one too), and a mid-game DLC that adds no new ending, or alters ones we have, would be entirely pointless.

 

[pEestino]

Remember, some people might not dislike endings entirely but if you kill V you're basically killing Judy, Panam, River etc because they'll never be able to experience those characters again and even those people that didn't really care about the ending or were hopeful would turn aganist CDPR, you can't just build a game on morals, friendship and shit like that and then basically kill it off like that, or rather, you definetly can but it's a bad move.
Firstly because you have to basically re-cast all your characters instead of using fail-proof and field-tested characters which would waste time and effort probably (you can see recurring fan favs in TW series also.)
Secondly because if they plan to make a 30hour long story and a 60 hour long game that is basically standalone, how am I supposed to get invested in characters that went in depth only through sidequests that then became blank npcs..?
Stories can be one-timers sure but you don't waste so much time on build-ups of some characters just to toss them in a dumpster like River, Viktor, Misty, Kerry etc that barely influenced the ending.

 

[tRYSIS3]

We don't know what expansion is about, which ending is canon, there's a big possibility that V can live even through sheer plot armor.

The reason many were hyped for Cyberpunk (me included) is because of TW3, which was a great game. Now we have seen that Cyberpunk is not that great, so there is no more reason to be excited for any cdpr releases. Cyberpunk has to be fixed first, definitely not through a paid expansion.