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[Spoiler Alert] About the endings

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Do you want more RPGs with happy endings?

  • Yes, I miss happy endings.

    Votes: 428 44.4%
  • No, I am content with the endings currently offered.

    Votes: 91 9.4%
  • I think that the option should be available for those who want it.

    Votes: 282 29.3%
  • It’s more complicated than that.

    Votes: 162 16.8%

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Boras085

Boras085

Fresh user
#5,761
Dec 23, 2020
tRYSIS3 said:
What did you love about V getting Soulkilled, being told that you only have 6 months to live, and then forced to leave NC?
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theres potential for hope if you get nomads help. and if you persued a relationship youre with them. if you went johnny and rogue theres determination and a fix is hinted at but at a cost...
 
acakomandos

acakomandos

Forum regular
#5,762
Dec 23, 2020
Its so comforting coming here in the morning and seeing this thread getting bigger and bigger. CDPR might even read this thread and do something
 
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Simuxas

Simuxas

Senior user
#5,763
Dec 23, 2020
Arkei1 said:
Nah, what they should have done, is make a completely different story. People already disliked how Witcher 3 portrays the main quest as a race against time, in Cyberpunk, they cranked that up to 5000.
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Well it's not really a problem in TW3, i never felt rushed there, since everything made sense, it wasn't all "Do favor for me then I help you find Ciri" kind of crap. Also Ciri is a badass world traveling monster hunter, I always thought she can handle herself pretty good.
 
tRYSIS3

tRYSIS3

Senior user
#5,764
Dec 23, 2020
Honestly, I'm not sure how is it so hard to understand. Cyberpunk is a game, if you kill the protagonist of the game, then there is no game. It has nothing to do with sad or happy, at least to me.
 
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Simuxas

Simuxas

Senior user
#5,765
Dec 23, 2020
SaulTuk said:
That's one way to handle this. Other people in this thread proposed some forms of "Johny-meter" mechanic, with side jobs to decrease/increase johny-metter and eventually to keep it low enough for Alt to remove Johny with no 6 months problem. I liked how Mass Effext 2 handled the suicide run.
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And yeah, probably the best choice, as I mentioned before, incorporating Samurai and The Countdown tarot cards into the games ending. Though, giving a timer for secret mission with different ending would be the easiest way to please us in one way or another. :shrug:
 
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tRYSIS3

tRYSIS3

Senior user
#5,766
Dec 23, 2020
Boras085 said:
theres potential for hope if you get nomads help. and if you persued a relationship youre with them. if you went johnny and rogue theres determination and a fix is hinted at but at a cost...
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the nomad ending is optional, it's not canon. Also, you can't turn an engram into a human
 
SaulTuk

SaulTuk

Forum regular
#5,767
Dec 23, 2020
Simuxas said:
And yeah, probably the best choice, as I mentioned before, incorporating Samurai and The Countdown tarot cards into the games ending.
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And add some outcome of Taro murals collection to the ending choice. For example, V gathers all 20 murals, Misty performs her mumbo-jumbo therapy and johny-meter drops by 20-30 percents.
 
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SidTheUndying

Forum regular
#5,768
Dec 23, 2020
SaulTuk said:
Movie is independent fiction, with no obligation to follow source to the letter.
And, as far as i know, Blade Runner ending survived so many cuts that it now basically has several endings). You pick the one with happily hereafter? Your call.
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No. Movie was allowed because original creator agreed to it. Some people maintain rights to use of their work.
Others arguing about whether something is or isn't cyberpunk and using movie to say it's the origin of the genre, but Ridley Scott's version is just that, not the original version the writer approved and we saw released first.
 
Simuxas

Simuxas

Senior user
#5,769
Dec 23, 2020
SaulTuk said:
And add some outcome of Taro murals collection to the ending choice. For example, V gathers all 20 murals, Misty performs her mumbo-jumbo therapy and johny-meter drops by 20-30 percents.
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Yeah, could be, also could come out badly if you would make bad answers with Misty.
 
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Arkei1

Forum regular
#5,770
Dec 23, 2020
tRYSIS3 said:
Honestly, I'm not sure how is it so hard to understand. Cyberpunk is a game, if you kill the protagonist of the game, then there is no game. It has nothing to do with sad or happy, at least to me.
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Yeah, here a lot of different people who have different problems with the endings:
  • The ones who dislike the lack of choice and consequences throughout the whole game, reaching its pinnacle in the end
  • The ones who dislike the endings for being way too sad and hopeless
  • The ones who dislike how the game rushes you to the end, just to break your immersion by loading a save from Act 2 after it
  • The ones who dislike how the romances are treated by the endings
  • The ones who think the game tries to push you to the Johnny end, and don't think it is fair how that guy gets a second chance while V dies so young
  • etc. etc.
And of course any combination of those
 
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SaulTuk

SaulTuk

Forum regular
#5,771
Dec 23, 2020
SidTheUndying said:
No. Movie was allowed because original creator agreed to it. Some people maintain rights to use of their work.
Others arguing about whether something is or isn't cyberpunk and using movie to say it's the origin of the genre, but Ridley Scott's version is just that, not the original version the writer approved and we saw released first.
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But Blade Runner 2049 plot means that Scott's cut was chosen as canon. Not to mention the fact that some fiction work doesn't loose its dramatic quality just because some dudes in suits said something about intellectual property)
 
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SidTheUndying

Forum regular
#5,772
Dec 23, 2020
Arkei1 said:
Yeah, here a lot of different people who have different problems with the endings:
  • The ones who dislike the lack of choice and consequences throughout the whole game, reaching its pinnacle in the end
  • The ones who dislike the endings for being way too sad and hopeless
  • The ones who dislike how the game rushes you to the end, just to break your immersion by loading a save from Act 2 after it
  • The ones who dislike how the romances are treated by the endings
  • The ones who think the game tries to push you to the Johnny end, and don't think it is fair how that guy gets a second chance while V dies so young
  • etc. etc.
And of course any combination of those
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Forgot the ones who dislike plot holes, unfinished work and discrepancy ;)
 
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tRYSIS3

tRYSIS3

Senior user
#5,773
Dec 23, 2020
Arkei1 said:
Yeah, here a lot of different people who have different problems with the endings:
  • The ones who dislike the lack of choice and consequences throughout the whole game, reaching its pinnacle in the end
  • The ones who dislike the endings for being way too sad and hopeless
  • The ones who dislike how the game rushes you to the end, just to break your immersion by loading a save from Act 2 after it
  • The ones who dislike how the romances are treated by the endings
  • The ones who think the game tries to push you to the Johnny end, and don't think it is fair how that guy gets a second chance while V dies so young
  • etc. etc.
And of course any combination of those
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I get all of that, I have my own problems with the endings too. What I'm saying is that it's objectively bad, because it stops you from playing. (you have to reload an old save to play, which is bad design)

What I don't understand is how you can call it happy? it literally restricts you from playing further. Oh you ride with Panam or see Judy naked, I get it now.
 
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SaulTuk

SaulTuk

Forum regular
#5,774
Dec 23, 2020
Simuxas said:
Yeah, could be, also could come out badly if you would make bad answers with Misty.
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That too. Also restore Humanity/Empathy meter, affected by implants in your body and choices you make. Low Empathy — V becomes more like machine, than man, twisted and evil, see no reason to stay in the body and joins Alt in the end.
 
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Arkei1

Forum regular
#5,775
Dec 23, 2020
SidTheUndying said:
Forgot the ones who dislike plot holes, unfinished work and discrepancy ;)
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Those are problems with the whole story/game, tried to focus on the endings
 
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Simuxas

Simuxas

Senior user
#5,776
Dec 23, 2020
SaulTuk said:
That too. Also restore Humanity/Empathy meter, affected by implants in your body and choices you make. Low Empathy — V becomes more like machine, than man, twisted and evil, see no reason to stay in the body and joins Alt in the end.
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Ah yeah, I kind of was expecting some outcome if I plant a lot of cyberware inside, since I heard about those cyberpsychos all around, but nope, nada.
 
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SaulTuk

SaulTuk

Forum regular
#5,777
Dec 23, 2020
Simuxas said:
Ah yeah, I kind of was expecting some outcome if I plant a lot of cyberware inside, since I heard about those cyberpsychos all around, but nope, nada.
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Cut, and cut badly. Even 1.04 version had empty tab in Attribute screen, probably that should be Empathy
 
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SidTheUndying

Forum regular
#5,778
Dec 23, 2020
SaulTuk said:
But Blade Runner 2049 plot means that Scott's cut was chosen as canon. Not to mention the fact that some fiction work doesn't loose its dramatic quality just because some dudes in suits said something about intellectual property)
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Philip K Dick is dead.
America recreated Godzilla to make money right after his creator died too. Doesn't make it right or canon, it's arrogance and greed.
Lucas sold Star Wars and Disney decided theirs are the only "real" versions and 50+ books written by talented authors with reams more knowledge and experience suddenly don't count. LOL fans decide what counts by showing monetary support or lack thereof.
Everyone loves the storyteller, screw the story. Hence why we always have so much flashy media with little substance.
 
Simuxas

Simuxas

Senior user
#5,779
Dec 23, 2020
SaulTuk said:
Cut, and cut badly. Even 1.04 version had empty tab in Attribute screen, probably that should be Empathy
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Ah yeah that, that is the most obvious evidence "Lots of shit missing in the game" :giveup:
 
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SaulTuk

SaulTuk

Forum regular
#5,780
Dec 23, 2020
SidTheUndying said:
Philip K Dick is dead.
America recreated Godzilla to make money right after his creator died too. Doesn't make it right or canon, it's arrogance and greed.
Lucas sold Star Wars and Disney decided theirs are the only "real" versions and 50+ books written by talented authors with reams more knowledge and experience suddenly don't count. LOL fans decide what counts by showing monetary support or lack thereof.
Everyone loves the storyteller, screw the story. Hence why we always have so much flashy media with little substance.
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That's why i ignore Disney Wars completely. Again, i liked Scott's cut of Blade Runner and 2049, be they canon or not. As for Phillip Dick book, i read it, but wasn't even closely so satisfied, as by films.
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Simuxas said:
Ah yeah that, that is the most obvious evidence "Lots of shit missing in the game" :giveup:
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Yeah, i expected some plot-wise prize for obliterating entire locations with legendary quick-hacks without even moving a finger from cover, but no(
 
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