Possibly, but removing them, none of the endings really suffer, maybe the glory one, but i digress. Arasaka and Nomad one definetly gets improved.
You want impactful? Try Mordin's death or even Legion's
CP77 still, heavily stating STILL beacuse it can change with whatever is coming, doesn't have anything like that, well the Devil ending with arasaka is really well done so it's impactful but it doesn't have that feeling that Johnny in the body of V has but it's just rushed
Damnit, now I gotta cry again...
"Had to be me, someone else might have gotten' it wrong"
"Does this unit have a soul?"
Proof that games can have forever rememorable moments.
I have 2 endings saved currently:
1 with panam obviously
1 where i sided with arasaka, because its the only one i keep my true self and obliterate johnny for good. (I despise him for the dirty comment he drops when you finally find evelyn)
Then i go back to earth, arasaka couldnt help me so only thing left to do is go after panam with all aldecaldos alive and try to make a little V. Sadly its just my imagination. Cdpr was not capable to do more then 40 hours main/sidestory wise in 7 years.
I may do a second playtrough as female with judy.
Then im afraid i have to wait for postgame dlc/addons.
Do not dare cdpr making content for act1 / act2 of the game before deliver a satisfying and worth to replay the game ending.
In the current state of the journey theres NO POINT in adding anything other.
1 with panam obviously
1 where i sided with arasaka, because its the only one i keep my true self and obliterate johnny for good. (I despise him for the dirty comment he drops when you finally find evelyn)
Then i go back to earth, arasaka couldnt help me so only thing left to do is go after panam with all aldecaldos alive and try to make a little V. Sadly its just my imagination. Cdpr was not capable to do more then 40 hours main/sidestory wise in 7 years.
I may do a second playtrough as female with judy.
Then im afraid i have to wait for postgame dlc/addons.
Do not dare cdpr making content for act1 / act2 of the game before deliver a satisfying and worth to replay the game ending.
In the current state of the journey theres NO POINT in adding anything other.
If people want real endings, its fine, i dont mind. But the fact that this game gives false sense of choice and then giving us these kind of endings is horrible.
I undersrand getting realistic ending if you act as V realisticly to your problems. But if i wanna aproach to problems differently yet i still get the same outcome, thats not real at all.
I undersrand getting realistic ending if you act as V realisticly to your problems. But if i wanna aproach to problems differently yet i still get the same outcome, thats not real at all.
I don't like any of the endings (or rather the feeling they give me), but if I had to choose the least "bad", I would choose this one ... RELUCTANTLY! I thought about this, when I first saw it, and I have to somewhat agree. This is kind of a "merging ending", because V obviously influenced Johnny in such a way, that he effectively becomes a different person. So much so, that he even can finally let go of his hell-bent hatred for Arasaka and the city itself. Additionally he has to live with the constant reminder of V because, as he says, he has to live with his/her "fcking face". Not only that, as you point out, but also with certain other biological features, the brain being just one of them (think about playing V as female!). He also had literally palpable access to V's memories, and memories are an essential part of a person's individuality.
In the end however, this is the weakest variant of a "merging" a writer can come up with, because despite all these points Johnny still identifies as Johnny, and not as someone else, someone new. We, as an external spectator can ask, "Johnny, could it be that you've become someone else entirely?", but he does not raise this question. He very much keeps mentally seperating himself from V, as can be seen by him puting V to rest, by "burrying" her pendant, and saying things like "I have to stop talking to you." and "I cannot wear this any longer.". He clearly misses V. At least two times he invokes his/her name with a heavy sigh. So, what I wanted to say with this - for me this is not a satisfying "merging", because Johnny doesn't embrace it, and the part of V's conscience is missing entirely.
Hmm ... Having said that, however, maybe the Arasaka ending can also be seen as a kind of "merging", albeit one that is a little bit stronger. After all, there, we hear Johnny creeping into V's dreams, trying to again influence her, implying something of his conscience could still be within V ...
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If you remove the 6 months limit then they would indeed become better (for players), but now there wouldn't be a reason for cdpr to not feature V in the future.
I would have preferred if the ending was selected automatically as a result of my choices throughout the game, instead of being forced to choose between 3 fake options
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If V is alive what would be cdpr's reason for not making him/her playable in future content?
This is unrelated to the thread but your music is literally some of my favorite in the game <3
You killed it for real. Like every one was a banger. Some of the best music I've heard in a while.
None, unless they are complete diks. But bringing same character to dlc or a sequel is best move to do anyway.
One thing to consider: Johnny remembers everything that he experienced since V slotted the biochip. One could take that to mean we spent the whole game merged with him, and that the only thing that changes is how much we remember of our time as V. Honestly, it's kind of a brilliant narrative method for putting the player in V's body. We, the player, are Johnny, our own moral choices limited only by what is so unthinkable to (incompatible with?) OG V that they aren't even options.
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You are totally right. But is not "if they decide to". Now that they have made this, they "must expand" V's story, or everything they did in the endings is useless and pointless
A great mid-game DLC idea would be the option to kill Dex and remove/keep the chip (your choice), and go on a completely different path with a new ending.
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Actually, I disagree, if they expand on V's story and allow him to live, then the 6 months limit was "pointless"
Yeah agreed the fake options are the worst part of this whole thing. I've said it before and I'll say it again this was supposed to be an RPG with replayablility and currently there is very little of that. If they wanted an action-adventure game they should've marketed it like that from the start and not as a big RPG.
Just my 2 cents
Heard a guy theorizing that once V is pulled off Mikoshi with his brain fried, the Relic starts the process of fixing V's brain with nanites just like it happens when Dex killed V in the begining of the game (Or even when V dies to the Voodo Boys). If this is true, there's no way to know if the Real V's is dead or not. This POV of the whole situation brings another light to the ending, which makes it pretty genious on a writing standpoint.
Yes the 6 months living is pointless if you live this 6 months doing nothing and they give us nothing to do. If the expand the story, we will still have 6 months to live, but we will try (and hopefully we will make it) to find a cure, because now we know that it is possible. But this If they expand the story after the endings.
Don't talk to me about dex xD really I hated him from the 1st moment I saw him. I really would kill that guy.
And I don't know how a midgame dlc will be. Not feel good with that, I prefer post ending content actually. If they do a mid game dlc that change every end, we'll what we have done since now will be useless
Yeah, I get where you're coming from and it's a nice romantic notion. If that works for you, it's a good thing. But for me it's not ... fleshed out enough by the writers/devs. You know, we could interpret something like this in every ending. Hm, but that just somehow feels like grasping at straws, constructing what is not intended by the devs, and only helps us to overcome unwanted feelings. That's not what I want from this game or CDPR. I don't want to fix their shortcomings in my mind, if that makes any sense to you ...
No, I really want different endings, based on the decisions I made in the role of V. Naturally this means there has to be a bad ending, a good ending, a gray ending, a WTF?!? ending and so on, so that every playstyle is covered. If that's not what they wanted, I'd rather they've simply written a book, or visual novel, ... or at least made it clear from the get go, that this is supposed to be a very linear game.