[Spoiler Alert] About the endings

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Do you want more RPGs with happy endings?


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I finished all Panam quests on good terms. I rode with Panam as female V in the final assault. Didn't get that ending. What did I do wrong?
 
If anything the 6 month timer essentially obscures these topics because of how front and centre it is. Those topics should be what all the forum navel gazing revolves around but instead they give you the farcical we copied you then gave your copy another terminal illness haha!!

Which actually confuses me more than it makes me angry anymore...

I mean, we are exactly at the same point we and V were after she woke up at the dumpster. Same situation, just a little bit more time left.

I have simply a hard time following the thought process of the writing team that came up with this idea. And if they thoguht it was clever...hm...I should have become a writer then...seems easy enough to just cobble together something that appears to be "mindblowing" ... or "breathtaking"? Nah, better skip that word...
 
Did you cross the bridge or enter the well?
Oh, I see ... No, I think that time I chose to let Johnny live. Makes sense that it won't trigger this way.

Heh, okay, I'm taking everything back and claim the opposite!

In any case, the Iliad part is still too far-fetched, I think. I mean, you could take any poem or whatever from the game and contrive something out of it.
 
Dude i am around since pac-man.... i am a fossil at this point xD

Well considering ME 3 Endings. The Indoctrination theory makes not only more sense than the actual endings they are backed up by evidence by daydreams of shepard, hallucinations, and sound effects which are exactly on point with the lore where the explanation of the "Starchild" is an oxymoron and makes 0 sense. By their logic they kill everyone capable of making synth life etc. to prevent the extermination of everything by exterminating everything. That is like cutting off your legs in order to prevent you from breaking them. That is the dumbest plot i ever had to read in my entire life. And i read alot of books.

"I am the reaper overlord. My logic is flawless. My explanations are literally the dumbest shit you can ever think off" Choose your colour.......

I think CDPR went with the same strategy TLOU2 did. "We make no sense but we exceed expectations..... ok they are negative but we exceeded even those" Yay to us.

It's like one company after another has no clue anymore how to write a good story. It ain't that hard nor is it to much to ask that you sell what you advertise. No one would sell a car by telling you it can fly only that once ppl can buy it you meant by flying that it can fly a longer distance from a cliff than any other car out there and you simply had the wrong expectations if you believed otherwise.

I mean.... C'mon CDPR we know you can do better than that.

Man i miss Amy Hennig. Back when games like Legacy of Kain series had a story your mind was blown apart. Nowadays you get one depressing story after another which makes no sense but one company after another tells you its "innovative or progressive" yet you sit there and think to yourself. WTF is wrong with this industry...... Same as in movies. It is depressing as hell nowadays.
You know we live in the happy times with great leaders that value democracy and people in general, old treaties are thriving, world is getting safer since we don’t have a global warming/crysis or any pandemics /s

jokes asides but this a dystopian game made by a studio known for doing dystopian worlds, based on dystopian pnp tabletop.

for me a good/happy ending wouldn’t fit this world, maybe max a so called happy ending with Witcher 3, but then they were finishing Geralt story arc.

now this endings are not bad or sad. They are inconclusive as for now. We get that we have only 6 months to live or can wait behind Blackwall or in the Mikoshi and that’s the problem that we don’t know what will happen next.
For me there will be expansions that will push whole story forward, but for now CDPR is in the fixing mode and will need to wait at least to the first big patch for more info about the future.
 
I guess could make Alt main villain.
I mean, that's kind of like one of the only options honestly. Alt becomes big bad. Johnny who is now an AI establishes contact with V thy hacking their chip. Alt takes over NUSA and Militech, war and more war. Was my thought that the whole reason why Mr Blue Eyes, hired you is that V can get their hand on a VIP list of very important people. The perfect type of people an AI would want their hands on. Get them, soulkill them, assimulate.
 
There's still the whole issue of being Soulkilled in the Panam ending that is kinda glazed over. :shrug:

But we've been down that road a million times now so yeah I'll spare you and I'll not go into it all again.

Quite frankly I don't understand the Soulkilling thing because V still acts and behaves like normal regardless. As far as I'm concerned it's irrelevant because it feels irrelevant.
 
The developers may as well of went for "colored" endings like Bioware did for all the satisfaction i got out of the ones i've experienced (the ones i've not played but researched sound just as depressing as the ones i have). The endings make it completely pointless to play on after finishing the main story since V's going to die anyhow, thanks "writers".

You must have gotten a bad ending. The Nomad ending is actually incredibly positive if you pay attention to Misty's tarots and The Iliad datashard at the Basilisk tent.
 
You know we live in the happy times with great leaders that value democracy and people in general, old treaties are thriving, world is getting safer since we don’t have a global warming/crysis or any pandemics /s

jokes asides but this a dystopian game made by a studio known for doing dystopian worlds, based on dystopian pnp tabletop.

for me a good/happy ending wouldn’t fit this world, maybe max a so called happy ending with Witcher 3, but then they were finishing Geralt story arc.

now this endings are not bad or sad. They are inconclusive as for now. We get that we have only 6 months to live or can wait behind Blackwall or in the Mikoshi and that’s the problem that we don’t know what will happen next.
For me there will be expansions that will push whole story forward, but for now CDPR is in the fixing mode and will need to wait at least to the first big patch for more info about the future.

It would fit in this world simply by the fact that V literally loses everything else. From jackie over evelyn and people depending on which group you choose to storm arasaka and at the end your health if you would survive cause even in a happy ending i would have expected some brain damage from the bio chip.

But as for now this feels like Blade Runner with the twist that everyone dies by the end of it. And only the origami animals are left to watch in the end screen.

I don't know but 2020 was depressing enough. This just doesn't feel right.
 
Quite frankly I don't understand the Soulkilling thing because V still acts and behaves like normal regardless. As far as I'm concerned it's irrelevant because it feels irrelevant.

It is relevant because it kills V and replaces V with a copy. The games brushes over it so I can't really blame you.
Lemme see if I can't find a post from earlier that goes into more detail on it.
 
I mean, that's kind of like one of the only options honestly. Alt becomes big bad. Johnny who is now an AI establishes contact with V thy hacking their chip. Alt takes over NUSA and Militech, war and more war. Was my thought that the whole reason why Mr Blue Eyes, hired you is that V can get their hand on a VIP list of very important people. The perfect type of people an AI would want their hands on. Get them, soulkill them, assimulate.
Dont think it should be just war. Imo should be more complicated. Like Alt trying to destroy/assimilate/consume every human.
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It is relevant because it kills V and replaces V with a copy. The games brushes over it so I can't really blame you.
Lemme see if I can't find a post from earlier that goes into more detail on it.
People discussed about it a lot here, but it doesnt rly matter cuz of 6 months expiration date on V anyway
 
Quite frankly I don't understand the Soulkilling thing because V still acts and behaves like normal regardless. As far as I'm concerned it's irrelevant because it feels irrelevant.

Soulkiller is literally killing the brain of someone like deleting a harddrive while also making a copy or digital emulation of said brain in the process. After that you can copy or emulate any engram on said brain. That is how the lore tells you this thing works. So the moment Alt uses Soulkiller V is dead.

What then enters V is either a copy of V. A digital Emulation of V or the copy or digital emulation of Johnny. Regardless the outcome original V is already dead.
But no worries. The copy or digital emulation of V can die 6 months after it again. So yay.......
 
So here is a question, how would people improve the endings if they could. What are the things you would do differently?
 
6,539 messages, 327 pages. Don't give up guys, can't really be ignored at this point la :ok: !! We might eventually get a response/statement sooner than later, a "we're working on it" at least, hopefully :shrug:

"We at CD Red always have the desire to tell emotional and intelligent stories that are at our very heart. We are more than happy to see the community react with such a strong emotion to our current story of V in the dark and unforgiving world of Cyberpunk. This is exactly what we hoped to achieve, and we are proud of what we accomplished.

And rest assured, we will bring you more stories in the world of Cyberpunk that will not only entertain you, but challenge the very view of how we approach our life, and the short span we have to make it worth. See you all in Night City, choombas!"
 
To everyone complaining about the Panam ending not being 'happy' enough I highly encourage you to go back, reload the savefile and do that ending all over again. But this time, pay attention to all the little details. There are many details littered throughout hinting why this is a better ending than you think (e.g. Tarots) but I'll give you a less obvious example. When you're at the tent where the Basilisk is there's a data pad called 'The Iliad'.

Here's what it says and i've added my interpretation in brackets:
  • "If I abide here and war about the city of Trojans [Night City], then lost is my home [Mother Nature with the Aldecaldos], but my renown shall be imperishable [maintain a strong reputation in Night City - this is basically the Johnny ending].
  • "But if I return home [Mother Nature] to my dear native land [the great outdoors] then lost is my glorious renown [NC reputation], yet shall my life long endure, neither shall the doom of death come soon upon me."

This poem in my opinion is proof that the Aldecaldos ending is happy and that V will probably be cured in an expansion. Especially when it corroborates with what Misty says.

Just because an ending isn't happy at face value doesn't make it automatically bad! You need to pay attention to the little details.

Even if it make sense, issue is that this is just a theory based on very few elements (Illiad excerpt, Cassidy's words, Tarot (if you believe these have any foresight value - is there anything else ?)
Long story short, it's not a clear statement, just theories we make in a forum, that will probably be completely ignored by the devs.

What could V find outside of NC, and finding someone able to do what no one else could do (including Soulkiller creator / powerful IA) ? It doesn't make much sense, and isn't foreshadowed in any way.

It leaves us looking for clues to feel a bit better, to end up biased with pointless hopes.
 
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