[Spoiler Alert] About the endings

[acakomandos]

There not working atm i think. Said they would have free time over christmas and new years. Januari is atleast one big patch i think and Februari has one big too. Not untill then there will be any fixes for the things i would want so... Will probably have moved on by then

Yeah me too. But I need only one statment from them. Just to see that they care about us. If they carr at all

 

[stndn]

And that is a huge problem in a game that was advertised to be replayable multiple times. I dont see myself again putting more that 100 hours, and also I dont see myself creating another V to watch again him/her dying. I really loved this game and I still love it...for now. Lets hope CDPR will do some magical christmas miracle

You're not going to get any magical fix until the major expansion in Q3 2021.

Which is why I encourage people to deal with the endings we have and move on. Perhaps engage in more positive theories, such as The Lilad and the Tarot cards (which are pretty positive imo - after all, the devs have placed them there for a reason!)

Personally I played through the nomad ending twice and after paying attention to the little details this time around I believe there is enough evidence to suggest a positive outlook for V, despite the things you hear about Soulkiller.

Either way since major expansion content is coming it's pretty much guaranteed that V survives.

Also this thread in general is pretty negative overall which doesn't help (no offence to the people here as it's a byproduct of the games ambiguity). There are more positive theories elsewhere on this forum and there is an excellent discussion on /r/lowsodiumcyberpunk.

 

[Sullivan1993]

Ok im watching this thread for some times like ever since im finished the game i also put a comment back like how this game made me feel about itself and its surroundings before but after reading lots of other opinions and seeing how ppl made a different calls and called them canon for themselves even the ones that let johnny to live and v goes to cyberspace , i came to this conclusion that the reason why we always going back to the last savefile before "no point back" is becuz after this point of the game its a question they asking from us that what would ur choice is if that's happened to u?! like imagine u live in the far future u have a cancer u gonna die in like 6 months like V but u have an alternative, scanning ur brain into an engram to make u immortal but living a digital world with no humans feels and all!? and now u know the core of this game other flavors that they added to this cook is for the emotional ride to make u stick to this thought to engage u here which is also real cuz u know ur choices will impact others around u , the loved ones. The core and the message this game is giving u is this nothing else i recommend u guys watch this Video im sending here its called

"Can You Upload Your Mind & Live Forever? feat. Cyberpunk 2077"

​

its a collaborated with Kurz_Gesagt a very well-known youtube channel about science that cyberpunk twitter page claims its the idea behind the game they created.

so after all this wanna say the story is in fact more of a action adventure and less of an RPG here and there with small but emotional variant for single ending and i think from this point on the story is finished and they did there part which i highly doubt to think they gonna expand upon it further with DLC or expansion(idk maybe they would in a way to not break the immersion here) and yea now in my idea if it was me yea i will chose to live even for short spam of time to have some quality time than to be a digital immortal.As freddie said once "who wants to live forever anyway"

 

[i-Czer]

First things first: Hello forum! I'm new here and this is my first post.

Now, to the topic at hand.
Usually I'm not a very public person so I pondered for quite some time whether I should really write this but I think I need to get it off my chest, so here goes.

When I bought Cyberpunk 2077, I really didn't have any special expectations. I didn't follow the development, I didn't follow the hype, I didn't know what was allegedly 'promised' or not. All I knew was, it was made by CDPR and as I just finished Witcher 3 a bit earlier I thought, well, it's probably going to be good.

And boy, was it good! The presentation, the graphics (very impressive even on my elderly PC), the soundtrack, the voice acting, the gameplay, the worldbuilding and the general mood, all of that was top notch quality in my opinion, a great gaming experience. I didn't have any game breaking bugs to speak of and the only time the game crashed was when I accidentally tabbed out and got stuck somewhere in the limbus between game and windows. Sure, there were minor glitches here and there (mostly levitating objects and people or vehicles clipping through walls) but really nothing extreme. Okay, the driving experience could use some polishing, but that shan't be the topic here.

The story however... I mean, it's great, it's written quite well, it has some really shocking plot twists and I don't even mind being railroaded for some parts, but the outcome...
When I reached the point of no return I had to spoiler myself to find out what the best possible ending was, because... because after all of what happened I needed a at least somewhat happy ending. When I found out that there isn't any, it caught me a little off guard. I was devastated for the following reason (and I'm still unsure whether it's clever to write about it in public...):
Earlier this year my spouse passed away after battling terminal breast cancer for four years. And when this game came to the point where the only option I got was to choose how to let V. die and making it clear that there is no way she will survive, something in me triggered. The game put me right back into the mental state I was in when I sat down at a table with four doctors and a psychologist and they told me very carefully but also without any ambiguity that all options were exausted and that my spouse will die, perhaps in the next few days but probably that very same night. In that moment I realized what the world looks like when you reach the end of the line. And for some stupid reason it all came back to me.
(Btw, I'm not writing this to fish for sympathy, just to explain my standpoint, so please refrain from condoling me.)

I know, I know, you might say that it's quite silly for a grown man to get so invested into a fictional character as to trigger such emotions, and normally I would agree with that. Before getting there myself I would have claimed I'm mentally stable enough that a computer game couldn't reach me on that level. Turns out, I was wrong. Apparantly the game and the characters within are so well done that it can punch right through my defenses and hit where it hurts. That was a surprise.
(And is a big compliment for the people who created such a powerful piece of art.)

By the time I'm writing this I already mostly got over the situation and have my shit back together.

i will finish the game with the nomads ending, because that seems to be the least grim situation.
However, after that I won't touch the game again before I know it gets an ending that is happy enough to make the main characters ordeal worthwhile, even if it is just keeping the status quo: You survive, for all I care with nothing but your bare life and the clothes you wear, with a black eye, beaten and scarred and with nothing to show for it but a huge pack full of experience. But you survive, for good.

Until then I sadly have to treat the game like some kind of psychological hazardous waste. I will not put me through this again. I can't. At least not anytime soon.

This pretty much mirrors my experience as well. My dad passed away last year of Alzheimer. So loosing ones personality and facing eventual, quickly approaching death was still fresh on my mind. Usually fictional stories or characters don't get to me at all, but this one hit home hard.

I had to spoiler myself before I could make the final decision. Even though Nomads was already the option I wanted to go with.

While I loved the game up until that point, it has become "psychological hazardous waste" by now.

 

[Simuxas]

You're not going to get any magical fix until the major expansion in Q3 2021.

Which is why I encourage people to deal with the endings we have and move on. Perhaps engage in more positive theories, such as The Lilad and the Tarot cards (which are pretty positive imo - after all, the devs have placed them there for a reason!)

Personally I played through the nomad ending twice and after paying attention to the little details this time around I believe there is enough evidence to suggest a positive outlook for V, despite the things you hear about Soulkiller.

Either way since major expansion content is coming it's pretty much guaranteed that V survives.

Also this thread in general is pretty negative overall (no offence to the people here). There are more positive theories elsewhere on this forum and there is an excellent discussion on /r/lowsodiumcyberpunk.

Well so far we just want some response that something is going to be done or something is missing and gonna be added or fixed. Then we either wait in misery or anticipation.

 

[Barsenthor]

TW3 had a self contained story, that cut off all loose ends. Here there is a beginning of the creating of the new world. I doubt that this is the end of V story, since VO are the best on in industry in recent years. Nobody is going to ditch this.

 

[Froste29]

Also hoping for a miracle.it should be evident that everyone here loves the game. Me, for exampe, I finished the game over a week ago, yet I didn't touch it again since then. But I visit the forum every day, because I want that to change, to pick up the game again, cherish the world they immersed me in, knowing I have a fighting chance this time.

There has to be an awakening inside the gaming industry that sad, philosophical and edgy endings do not make for a good story every damn time. Esp. 2020 was not kind to us, why do we have to endure hardships in the only thing that allows us to escape reality?

Some people have given drastic examples from their real lives why they could have needed a pick-me-up or at least a game with freedom of choice instead of 7 shades of inescapeable death.

At this rate they could just title the next great AAA RPG "Depression Simulator". At least then I know what I am (not) paying for.

 

[Simuxas]

Ok im watching this thread for some times like ever since im finished the game i also put a comment back like how this game made me feel about itself and its surroundings before but after reading lots of other opinions and seeing how ppl made a different calls and called them canon for themselves even the ones that let johnny to live and v goes to cyberspace , i came to this conclusion that the reason why we always going back to the last savefile before "no point back" is becuz after this point of the game its a question they asking from us that what would ur choice is if that's happened to u?! like imagine u live in the far future u have a cancer u gonna die in like 6 months like V but u have an alternative, scanning ur brain into an engram to make u immortal but living a digital world with no humans feels and all!? and now u know the core of this game other flavors that they added to this cook is for the emotional ride to make u stick to this thought to engage u here which is also real cuz u know ur choices will impact others around u , the loved ones. The core and the message this game is giving u is this nothing else i recommend u guys watch this Video im sending here its called

"Can You Upload Your Mind & Live Forever? feat. Cyberpunk 2077"

​

its a collaborated with Kurz_Gesagt a very well-known youtube channel about science that cyberpunk twitter page claims its the idea behind the game they created.

so after all this wanna say the story is in fact more of a action adventure and less of an RPG here and there with small but emotional variant for singe ending and i think from this point on the story is finished and they did there part which i highly doubt to think they gonna expand upon it further with DLC or expansion(idk maybe they would in a way to not break the immersion here) and yea now in my idea if it was me yea i will chose tolive even for short spam of time to have some quality time be a digital immortal.As freddie said once "who wants to live forever anyway"

I think its just a poor game/story/ending design that is all.

 

[acakomandos]

And for the grand finale

CD Projekt S.A.

www.rosenlegal.com

CDPR is getting sued by investitor dicks. So any story update to the game will prolly be delayed

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You're not going to get any magical fix until the major expansion in Q3 2021.

Which is why I encourage people to deal with the endings we have and move on. Perhaps engage in more positive theories, such as The Lilad and the Tarot cards (which are pretty positive imo - after all, the devs have placed them there for a reason!)

Personally I played through the nomad ending twice and after paying attention to the little details this time around I believe there is enough evidence to suggest a positive outlook for V, despite the things you hear about Soulkiller.

Either way since major expansion content is coming it's pretty much guaranteed that V survives.

Also this thread in general is pretty negative overall which doesn't help (no offence to the people here as it's a byproduct of the games ambiguity). There are more positive theories elsewhere on this forum and there is an excellent discussion on /r/lowsodiumcyberpunk.

Yeah I am getting over it. i will wait for dlc. I also saw many clues about V living, but we will see

 

[stndn]

TW3 had a self contained story, that cut off all loose ends. Here there is a beginning of the creating of the new world. I doubt that this is the end of V story, since VO are the best on in industry in recent years. Nobody is going to ditch this.

Yeah there's absolutely no way CDPR ditches V. The endings are far too ambiguous and are begging to be expanded on which is excellent news for the DLC production team. Plenty of material to work with.

 

[i-Czer]

Either way since major expansion content is coming it's pretty much guaranteed that V survives.

Man I hope you're right about this. But with what's surrounding the game, faith in CDPR has been lost.
But I truly wish I could share your optimism.

 

[stndn]

CDPR is getting sued by investitor dicks. So any story update to the game will prolly be delayed

This worried me too but remember that CDPR has multiple teams working at a given time. Their legal team can work with the investors meanwhile the story/narrative team has nothing to do with it so they can carry on.

 

[proxyrev]

And for the grand finale

CD Projekt S.A.

www.rosenlegal.com

CDPR is getting sued by investitor dicks. So any story update to the game will prolly be delayed

Post automatically merged: Dec 25, 2020

Yeah I am getting over it. i will wait for dlc. I also saw many clues about V living, but we will see

aww ffs, happy merry christmas ho ho ho ! I mean this could either be good or bad, either they're going to stop further major dev and deal with that issue or speed up everything to regain their trust and reputation

 

[Notserious80]

so after all this wanna say the story is in fact more of a action adventure and less of an RPG here and there with small but emotional variant for single ending and i think from this point on the story is finished and they did there part which i highly doubt to think they gonna expand upon it further with DLC or expansion(idk maybe they would in a way to not break the immersion here) and yea now in my idea if it was me yea i will chose to live even for short spam of time to have some quality time than to be a digital immortal.As freddie said once "who wants to live forever anyway"

"Forever is a looong time, especialy towards the end"

 

[DROZD01]

And for the grand finale

CD Projekt S.A.

www.rosenlegal.com

CDPR is getting sued by investitor dicks. So any story update to the game will prolly be delayed

Post automatically merged: Dec 25, 2020

Yeah I am getting over it. i will wait for dlc. I also saw many clues about V living, but we will see

To be fair - that company is making money on suing other companies, it's their business. So there's a huge chance that it's just going nowhere. Only to slowdown CDPR with unnecessary lawsuit shit.

 

[acakomandos]

aww ffs, happy merry christmas ho ho ho ! I mean this could either be good or bad, either they're going to stop further major dev and deal with that issue or speed up everything to regain their trust and reputation

The only good thing is that they sold 13 mil copies with refunds. So they shuld be fine. They covered all costs

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To be fair - that company is making money on suing other companies, it's their business. So there's a huge chance that it's just going nowhere. Only to slowdown CDPR with unnecessary lawsuit shit.

I think you are right, but hey we will see what happens. CDPR should be just fine in any case

 

[stndn]

Also speaking of CDPR and Cyberpunk. They seem to be hiring like mad for Cyberpunk 2077.

Career offers - CD PROJEKT RED

en.cdprojektred.com

So yeah I wouldn't worry. Expansions are still on the menu.

 

[Notserious80]

Im not worried about it. It probably makes no diffrence for the game. More intereseted in how the plan to move ahead. Still really no word on that from CDPR. Guess they just expect us to trust them... hahaha

 

[stndn]

Well a roadmap would be nice. Wonder if they did the same for The Witcher 3?

 

[DROZD01]

Also speaking of CDPR and Cyberpunk. They seem to be hiring like mad for Cyberpunk 2077.

Career offers - CD PROJEKT RED

en.cdprojektred.com

So yeah I wouldn't worry. Expansions are still on the menu.

IMHO, that's what they were to do before releasing the game. Way before releasing.
If they wanna try out No Man's Sky shoes of "fixing the game after the fact" - meh, whatever, fine.
Never thought that it's gonnabe CDPR to do it tho.