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[Spoiler Alert] About the endings

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Do you want more RPGs with happy endings?

  • Yes, I miss happy endings.

    Votes: 429 44.4%
  • No, I am content with the endings currently offered.

    Votes: 92 9.5%
  • I think that the option should be available for those who want it.

    Votes: 284 29.4%
  • It’s more complicated than that.

    Votes: 162 16.8%

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Master_Plot

Master_Plot

Forum regular
#7,481
Dec 29, 2020
Kikinho said:
I'm curious what will that involve. Going by the witcher DLCs, prolly just some extra car/nike models, new game + and some alternative outfits.
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I am very curious as well
 
Subenu

Subenu

Forum regular
#7,482
Dec 29, 2020
Annah_Maria_Hinman said:
wait....seriously

Am I the only one to get the Happy Ending on the first go around?? So many people here thinking there is no happy ending....I was more shocked people were moaning about on December 10!!!!! WTF lol
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Nah, I also got my happy ending. :)
 
arcsirc

arcsirc

Forum regular
#7,483
Dec 29, 2020
Rawls said:
We will have to agree to disagree that its disrespectful at all.

We dont know what will happen with V long term, but I rather like the ambiguity. I get that 46% of player would prefer there be some sort of happy ending, but Night City's not a place for purely happy endings.
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That's one way to look at the numbers, another way would be 10% of people are satisfied with how the game ended. Now i think that number is probably higher than what the poll reflects but it's still really on the lowside even if you double/triple it.
 
Master_Plot

Master_Plot

Forum regular
#7,484
Dec 29, 2020
Annah_Maria_Hinman said:
wait....seriously

Am I the only one to get the Happy Ending on the first go around?? So many people here thinking there is no happy ending....I was more shocked people were moaning about on December 10!!!!! WTF lol
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I got 3 endings so far,
1. New Dawn Fades
2. Path of Glory
3. Where is my mind
-> archived
They are probably not the ones considered as Happy Endings :cry:
and now working on a 4th ending ...
 
Hammerstein

Hammerstein

Forum regular
#7,485
Dec 29, 2020
Cyberpunk 2077 - the story of a young idiot in NC, who jumps to all the wrong conclusions and makes a lot of bad decisions and then proceeds to kill a lot of people, before either:

die within 6 months as disabled person
commit suicide
get killed while jacking into Mikoshi and trusting a rogue AI
get killed, with an engram copy remaining behind, property of Arasaka

In some of these endings your engram copy also dies 6 months later.

Oh joy....
 
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poldengonyboy

poldengonyboy

Forum regular
#7,486
Dec 29, 2020
arcsirc said:
That's one way to look at the numbers, another way would be 10% of people are satisfied with how the game ended. Now i think that number is probably higher than what the poll reflects but it's still really on the lowside even if you double/triple it.
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I'm gonna vouch for myself as one of the people who voted for "It's more complicated than that". I don't necessarily have a problem with how the game ended, but rather, when the game ended. I just feel as though the whole story was way to short, It honestly doesn't bother me that V is supposedly gonna die in 6 months (I don't think he really is, but even if he did, people die what can ya do). I would like post-game DLC to come out to just pick up where we left off and potentially find a cure too that would be a nice cherry on top.
 
rippercityransom

rippercityransom

Forum regular
#7,487
Dec 29, 2020
Hammerstein said:
Cyberpunk 2077 - the story of a young idiot in NC, who jumps to all the wrong conclusions and makes a lot of bad decisions and then proceeds to kill a lot of people, before either:

die within 6 months as disabled person
commit suicide
get killed while jacking into Mikoshi and trusting a rogue AI
get killed, with an engram copy remaining behind, property of Arasaka

In some of these endings your engram copy also dies 6 months later.

Oh joy....
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Really, really sums up the 2020 experience. Gives you the warm fuzzies inside, honestly.
 
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CasperTheGhost

CasperTheGhost

Forum regular
#7,488
Dec 29, 2020
i'd like an ending that actually makes sense... v's body or it's dna has been altered to fit johnny's (i get that), the engram is the digital reconstruction of the information that makes up V's memories and personality. the engram... it's not biological at all, it doesn't have dna to conflict with the rewritten dna now in v's body. so how is V's body supposed to reject the engram at all?

---edit i do only have a high school level understanding of biology & genetics... even i know their ending just doesn't compute.
 
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rippercityransom

rippercityransom

Forum regular
#7,489
Dec 29, 2020
CasperTheGhost said:
i'd like an ending that actually makes sense... v's body or it's dna has been altered to fit johnny's (i get that), the engram is the digital reconstruction of the information that makes up V's memories and personality. the engram... it's not biological at all, it doesn't have dna to conflict with the rewritten dna now in v's body. so how is V's body supposed to reject the engram at all?

---edit i do only have a high school level understanding of biology & genetics... even i know their ending just doesn't compute.
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An excellent point, which unfortunately gets in the way of forcing players to choose “dying, digital, or dead” to either set up expansion packs/sequels or create some easy misery so the answer is probably “because nanites can see the extra V in the brain meat” or something fun.

Because the chip only overwrites people when they’re dying, I wonder if the answer will be to put V’s engram on a chip and then kill yourself again, but just a little bit. Restart your heart by grabbing a live wire or something, boom. Instant V body again.
 
Buckadoz

Buckadoz

Forum regular
#7,490
Dec 29, 2020
Hammerstein said:
Cyberpunk 2077 - the story of a young idiot in NC, who jumps to all the wrong conclusions and makes a lot of bad decisions and then proceeds to kill a lot of people, before either:

die within 6 months as disabled person
commit suicide
get killed while jacking into Mikoshi and trusting a rogue AI
get killed, with an engram copy remaining behind, property of Arasaka

In some of these endings your engram copy also dies 6 months later.

Oh joy....
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Why are we still here? Just to suffer?
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Blaz1us

Fresh user
#7,491
Dec 29, 2020
Rawls said:
I dont see V's likely death as rendering what happens before worse. Every man dies, but not every man really lives. Literally every mortal character we've ever played as in a video game will die at some point in the future. It doesn't take away the experiences we the players have with those characters.
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I get your point but I disagree so many others. I know this is a game, and I would play anything that gives me more content and experiences to go through and I probably will , BUT lets think about the narrative for a sec, say its between act 2 and act3 ( ending) , after act2 you are in pretty bad shape( pressure wise ofcourse) so why would you go on some random adventure UNLESS it can somehow affect act3, which I dont think it would unless that DLC is free, this is what most people are saying who are against mid game expansion.

ps. if you gonna bring up H&S as counter argument I'd argue the pressure there was less but I dont think this is the thread for that.
 
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Sullivan1993

Forum regular
#7,492
Dec 29, 2020
U know comparing games specially RPG genre to movies are bad simply the whole things is different,games that is rpg meant to make directions base on player choices to distinct possibilities and different tastes like we could clearly see this in Witcher 3 how Geralt can get completely different endings at the end and minor ones mid game that make players feels like they did gone through it themselves and felt the satisfaction;that now in cp most complaints come exactly to this case that V the beloved protagonist never had these small and major choices to reflect anything and its always felt they just going into one direction with no wheels to control it they felt betrayed lied through this whole time experience that the end is going to justify it but nope that still happens regards to all ur actions mid game,which also takes all the fun to do any playthrough since u always knew how it will ends,what i know is that V simply sacrificed for the plots and themes here just becuz it has no roots but matter of facts ppl made connection with V they way we did with Geralt and here comes the whole complaints
 
SaulTuk

SaulTuk

Forum regular
#7,493
Dec 29, 2020
JuanEvil said:
No, I meant that only people that romanced either Judy or Panam can get the "best" ending of the game. If you romanced River or, in my case, Kerry, both of them will break up with you if you choose The Star ending.
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That's sad and unjust, but logical game-wise. Judy and Panam have solid reasons to hate NC and leave it for good. Kerry and River, on a contrary, have everything in the city: job, family, they are not so easily moveable. Kerry's career has a rebirth, River feels obliged to stay with his sister and nephews. So they dump V in nomad ending, as Judy and Panam dump V in any ending where V stays in NC. Bitter, but logical.
 
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CyberDiligence

CyberDiligence

Rookie
#7,494
Dec 29, 2020
I registered to respond to this thread since I've been following it for a while. I'm fairly certain that CDPR will follow exactly W3 path - some small stuff next year with the barber, outfits, or one-two side mission, penis size 3, maybe two more text messages from your love interest as a treat. I highly doubt that the legit, paid DLCs (if we would get any at this point) will change the ending in any way but expand the story before the final mission just like W3 did. Maybe more Badlands, maybe something in the city itself.
When it comes to V's fate it'll be resolved in the next full game I guess. CP 2 could just start with putting V's engram in a new body (hence character creator - pick your eyes, teeth again, whatever) with some back story how it's possible. Probably Alt created a copy of V by accident or on purpose, or Johnny did. It really doesn't matter. Parts of the memories would obviously disappear (hopefully with the ridiculous cocky attitude that V is guilty of) along with the ending since V's engram was created before he/she decided on the ending. CDPR has to get rid of this body anyway so that the new players will start the next Cyberpunk game with a new character. Clean cut.
 
Felipe_Anargyrou

Felipe_Anargyrou

Fresh user
#7,495
Dec 29, 2020
Finished the game yesterday and got the Nomad ending with Judy and I am pretty happy with it. I was more sad I wasn't able to save both V and Johnny but I was already expecting that anyway.

My V started as a Corpo; continued as a merc, made all the bad decisions that got many people killed and finally realised that the problem is Night City itself and that drove her to finally move on.

Regarding the 6 months thing I understood that Alt gave that as an estimate, not as a definitive timer and it's pretty clear (at least in my ending), that V will keep looking for a solution and she looked pretty hopeful of finding one. Also Johnny's final words being "keep fighting" seems to alude to that too.

I really like that they kinda left that piece very open ended. Did V manage to find a cure? That's up to your own imagination, and I'd say it is very possible that there is a cure especially given the technological advancements in the world V is in. I don't get why people are just assuming that the protagonist will die in 6 months when CDPR has clearly left that up to your own imagination.
 
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SaulTuk

SaulTuk

Forum regular
#7,496
Dec 29, 2020
Wenceslaus said:
Wait what, a dystopian sci-fi story does not have fairy tale ending? How rude!

But to be serious, I do not think that it is good that we get used to positive endings so much that people demand them, reducing stories to just form of cheap escapism like 80's action movie.

Not to mention that too many stories with good ending devalue those good endings that actually fits the story.
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Most of people nowadays seek escapism in general, in a stories where protagonist can suffer losses and defeats, but eventually survives and prospers. Also, many players demand after-ending gameplay with their overpowered characters.
To be honest, CP77 really makes the impression of incomplete game, mutilated by content cuts. Missing 6th Attribute tab should be Empathy, affected by cyberware, V's decisions and some quests, like cyberpsychos, Delamain etc, not to mention non-violent takedowns, completely useless now. Generally many players here feels that most of their choices, gameplay style included, do not affect the endings.
"Johny-meter", having the max achievable value of 70, also seems like a wound from content cut. I suppose, johny-meter should affect the ending in terms of psyche separation side effects in the end. For example, high johny-meter would mean no 6 months crap (you had a good relationships with Johny and been separated without negative consequences). Whereas V with both low Empathy and johny-meter would get 6 months problem and due to low Empathy (turned into more machine, than a man) sees no reason in returning to a dying meatbag to live 6 months among other meatbags, so V gladly joins Alt in cyberspace.
 
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Notserious80

Forum regular
#7,497
Dec 29, 2020
This is what i dont like about open endings. everybody will interpet it diffrently. But still my biggest gripe is the lack of real choice for the whole game. Anyways all we can do is wait and see. Doubt ill buy any DLC without them fixing the RPG mechanics tho but thats just me. They will still sell millions apon millions and ill just go back to playing other games. Oh just noticed on there homepage... Make choices in your journey and watch the story change based on your actions... Holy shit. Remove that -.-
 
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SaulTuk

SaulTuk

Forum regular
#7,498
Dec 29, 2020
Simuxas said:
They renove the chip and V is improving, but since there was too much dmg, V is still dying. It is the most logical one. Seek help from someone who made the chip also Takemura is there to possibly check if they arent going to screw you, cuz V did save him.

Just because you leave NC with someone you had sex ones, doesnt mean its the best option. As i said, V never considered leaving nc, not to mention if you start as Corpo or strert kid.
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To be honest, i've just finished Streetkid run, and V did tell about leaving the city. He gradially grew tired and sick of NC, as i could judge from his own pre-scripted dialogues and comments throghout the game. And in the nomad ending i got Streetkid dialogue option, where V realized that ther is nothing valuable left in NC for him, that he is done with this city. And i agree, the NC is cancer, and it is not the only city in America, even not the most rich and advanced technologically. So nomad ending does not decrease V's chance for finding the cure. The world of Cyberpunk does not revolves around NC.
 
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TintelFruit

TintelFruit

Forum regular
#7,499
Dec 29, 2020
Buckadoz said:
Why are we still here? Just to suffer?
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You already got revived by the relic once, after literally dying it replacing missing grey matter with who knows what then your personality got altered by Johnny, being a “copy” is the least of your worries.

It’s also not really how soulkiller 2.0 works.
 
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Simuxas

Simuxas

Senior user
#7,500
Dec 29, 2020
SaulTuk said:
To be honest, i've just finished Streetkid run, and V did tell about leaving the city. He gradially grew tired and sick of NC, as i could judge from his own pre-scripted dialogues and comments throghout the game. And in the nomad ending i got Streetkid dialogue option, where V realized that ther is nothing valuable left in NC for him, that he is done with this city. And i agree, the NC is cancer, and it is not the only city in America, even not the most rich and advanced technologically. So nomad ending does not decrease V's chance for finding the cure. The world of Cyberpunk does not revolves around NC.
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Well it is based on PnP that is all about NC. Spending so much time on creating one city for the gsme and then just completely ditching it doesnt make sense.
Thing is with the endings, they are so linear and preset aswell. Why I cant attack Arasaka solo and then leave NC? Why I camt attack with Aldecados and refuse to leave?
 
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