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Do you want more RPGs with happy endings?

  • Yes, I miss happy endings.

    Votes: 503 42.0%
  • No, I am content with the endings currently offered.

    Votes: 122 10.2%
  • I think that the option should be available for those who want it.

    Votes: 354 29.6%
  • It’s more complicated than that.

    Votes: 218 18.2%

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Notserious80

Forum regular
#8,081
Dec 29, 2020
I_Willenbrock_I said:
Crap endings. Have you watched Battlestar Galactica?

People are still pissed by bad endings but they are not criticising them anymore, because they don't want to be pushed into a corner.

Darky edgy and fatalistic are (IMHO wrongly) associated with though provoking, deep and interlectual.

Don't get me wrong it can absolutely be but this story does not support it. It just urges you to burn through the story are maximum speed.
In addition, the dark and edgy themes are not fully explained and/or contradicted by the games lore or the world lore.
In example. It is absolutely normal in the cyberpunk lore, to cure cancer and to alter DNA. It's not inexpensive but absolutely in the realm of possibility.
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Yea i kinda think thats my generations fault. All the emos and goth stuff. Death metal and so on. Death is deep...
 
I_Willenbrock_I

I_Willenbrock_I

Senior user
#8,082
Dec 29, 2020
tRYSIS3 said:
It's sadistic. The message is that they want you to go out and experience life so you can have it your way.
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Nope. We can't even use our remaining 6 months to slice up gangers in night city or to fuck our way through jig-jig street, while being drunk 24/7
 
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tRYSIS3

tRYSIS3

Senior user
#8,083
Dec 29, 2020
I_Willenbrock_I said:
Crap endings. Have you watched Battlestar Galactica?

People are still pissed by bad endings but they are not criticising them anymore, because they don't want to be pushed into a corner.

Darky edgy and fatalistic are (IMHO wrongly) associated with though provoking, deep and interlectual.

Don't get me wrong it can absolutely be but this story does not support it. It just urges you to burn through the story are maximum speed.
In addition, the dark and edgy themes are not fully explained and/or contradicted by the games lore or the world lore.
In example. It is absolutely normal in the cyberpunk lore, to cure cancer and to alter DNA. It's not inexpensive but absolutely in the realm of possibility.
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God Of War 3 ended on what seemed to be Kratos dead (who is a more interesting character than V btw), but I don't remember anyone complaining about that.
 
Kikinho

Kikinho

Senior user
#8,084
Dec 29, 2020
I_Willenbrock_I said:
Nope. We can't even use our remaining 6 months to slice up gangers in night city or to fuck our way through jig-jig street, while being drunk 24/7
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Literally! After the braincancer news, all I would wanna do is experience all the earthly pleasures before my heart gives in. Brain cancer would never have a chance.
 
arcsirc

arcsirc

Forum regular
#8,085
Dec 29, 2020
Kikinho said:
Tbh I never really got the idea either that the City was my enemy. Sure the people I had conflict with were from the city. But the battles V was really fighting were very specific ones.
V just goes through gigs like a breeze. And noone was really after him actively. No real conflict with the gangs, cops, hell even Arasaka wasn't sending their assasins on you constantly.
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People just use it as a catch all for explaining away why the only real ending would be v dying, either "that's the genre" or "that's night city" when instead it's a decision made by the narrative team to end the players involvement in the character.
 
Galerion90

Galerion90

Fresh user
#8,086
Dec 29, 2020
tRYSIS3 said:
I guess the way people were praising TW3, calling it "game of the decade" etc... made it seem like CDPR were above the rest. Plus their marketing style for CP2077 which was reminiscent of that of Rockstar's, gave that greater-than-life vibe, that only a few devs can match (can only think of Santa Monica studios).

Honestly, playing the game you could see the potential, but it's just not even close to being there, and I doubt it ever will be. So we are stuck here with a story of what could have

The last game I was this hyped for was probably God Of War 3, I have probably seen this trailer like a hundred times
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Yeah it's easy to fall for hype which is exactly why we are in the position we are in. I mean for one the "game of the decade" is GTA V. That game has sold over 135 million copies making in the second best-selling game of all time and it's still selling well. People can like TW3 as much as they want but there is no arguing about that.

Also when it comes to CDPR wanting to mimic Rockstar well they forget the most important thing about Rockstar and also some other companies. They don't show their cards until they are actually ready. GTA VI is in development. That much is pretty much an open secret. Once the first trailers and gameplay scenes roll in everybody knows though that that stuff will actually be in the game since the game is pretty much in the finishing stages.

If CDPR would have done the same the controversy around CP2077 wouldn't have nearly been as big even with the end product being same as it is know.
 
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tRYSIS3

Senior user
#8,087
Dec 29, 2020
I_Willenbrock_I said:
Nope. We can't even use our remaining 6 months to slice up gangers in night city or to fuck our way through jig-jig street, while being drunk 24/7
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It's like they are deliberately trying to make you not have fun, be it the bugs, the lack of customization, the lack of choices, or the bad endings... In Night City there are so many ways to NOT have fun.
 
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StarkHelsing

StarkHelsing

Forum regular
#8,088
Dec 29, 2020
Technically if your immune system is attacking your neurones, becoming a raging alcoholic will make you immunocompromised - weakening the response. Might earn you an extra month at least - either way, it's killing your brain cells. One just sounds a lot more fun compared to random coughing up blood.

ALSO, WHY AM I COUGHING UP BLOOD? This legit was not explained and still makes no sense?????
 
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arcsirc

Forum regular
#8,089
Dec 29, 2020
tRYSIS3 said:
God Of War 3 ended on what seemed to be Kratos dead (who is a more interesting character than V btw), but I don't remember anyone complaining about that.
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He ended up (pretend)dead AFTER a trilogy as a developed character.
Kratos gets 3 games, we didn't even get 3 acts.
 
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Kikinho

Kikinho

Senior user
#8,090
Dec 29, 2020
StarkHelsing said:
Technically if your immune system is attacking your neurones, becoming a raging alcoholic will make you immunocompromised - weakening the response. Might earn you an extra month at least - either way, it's killing your brain cells. One just sounds a lot more fun compared to random coughing up blood.

ALSO, WHY AM I COUGHING UP BLOOD? This legit was not explained and still makes no sense?????
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Because your brain* is melting and you're coughing it up.
 
arcsirc

arcsirc

Forum regular
#8,091
Dec 29, 2020
StarkHelsing said:
Technically if your immune system is attacking your neurones, becoming a raging alcoholic will make you immunocompromised - weakening the response. Might earn you an extra month at least - either way, it's killing your brain cells. One just sounds a lot more fun compared to random coughing up blood.

ALSO, WHY AM I COUGHING UP BLOOD? This legit was not explained and still makes no sense?????
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post nasal brain drip, 100% fatality rate.
 
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Notserious80

Forum regular
#8,092
Dec 29, 2020
StarkHelsing said:
Technically if your immune system is attacking your neurones, becoming a raging alcoholic will make you immunocompromised - weakening the response. Might earn you an extra month at least - either way, it's killing your brain cells. One just sounds a lot more fun compared to random coughing up blood.

ALSO, WHY AM I COUGHING UP BLOOD? This legit was not explained and still makes no sense?????
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Said it alot in this thread but the only ending for my V would be the gun ending.. Atleast she gets to chose something herself that way...
 
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arcsirc

Forum regular
#8,093
Dec 29, 2020
Galerion90 said:
Yeah it's easy to fall for hype which is exactly why we are in the position we are in. I mean for one the "game of the decade" is GTA V. That game has sold over 135 million copies making in the second best-selling game of all time and it's still selling well. People can like TW3 as much as they want but there is no arguing about that.

Also when it comes to CDPR wanting to mimic Rockstar well they forget the most important thing about Rockstar and also some other companies. They don't show their cards until they are actually ready. GTA VI is in development. That much is pretty much an open secret. Once the first trailers and gameplay scenes roll in everybody knows though that that stuff will actually be in the game since the game is pretty much in the finishing stages.

If CDPR would have done the same the controversy around CP2077 wouldn't have nearly been as big even with the end product being same as it is know.
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Instead CDPR left a paper trail of misinformation all over the net.
 
StarkHelsing

StarkHelsing

Forum regular
#8,094
Dec 29, 2020
Kikinho said:
Because your blood is melting and you're coughing it up.
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I'll take it. The chip is not only rewriting my DNA it is melting my blood - my Johnny Silverhand blood is leaking out of my Johnny Silverhand lungs. Johnny god damn Silverhand.
 
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Void Eclipse

Forum regular
#8,095
Dec 29, 2020
StarkHelsing said:
In our reality, yes. In this weird reality, we don't know. We know memories don't create antigens either and yet our brain is trying to kill them like it's a virus. What we know so far is that the central nervous system has immunity in a sense to transplants. Whole-brain transplant - which has only been done on a monkey - resulted in rejection. Yet Smasher who is legit just a head-mounted on a full robotic frame is 'fine'.

It's stupid any which way they spin it. And makes zero sense logically to the point if we do try and make it as scientifically accurate as possible it makes naff all sense. The immune system is rejecting something, may it be the rewiring or just the chip itself.

But a biological death due to memories not fitting with DNA? Like what? You'd have a better chance selling to me that Johnny had lung cancer, therefore the chip made it so the damned body also had lung cancer. It makes more sense - and that's saying very little.
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Read the sourcebook, this dna bs contradicts official cyberpunk lore. There is literally no reason to make up explanations, unless developers admit that the game is non-canon spinoff. There is a huge pile of nonsense stacked up just for the sake of making story dramatic.
 
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Notserious80

Forum regular
#8,096
Dec 29, 2020
Also isent it strange that its allways after a big mission that those glitches starts and you fall and have to talk to johnny for a bit... then your fine. Weird... Why doesent v just slap some jelly on her face to recover... since they try to appeal to the broader public that should be in game! :D
 
I_Willenbrock_I

I_Willenbrock_I

Senior user
#8,097
Dec 29, 2020
tRYSIS3 said:
God Of War 3 ended on what seemed to be Kratos dead (who is a more interesting character than V btw), but I don't remember anyone complaining about that.
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I have not played God of War.
But I read "the windup girl".

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One of the main protagonists dies of a fatal illness that is basically self inflicted out of ignorance and control over a coworker, who ignored cases of illness in the company. Said coworker survives despite being the arse of the story.
Meanwhile the windup girl (the name giving character) is left alone at the end.

Oh and BTW. One of the other main characters gets horrifically slaughtered by the end of the second third of the book.

The book is excellent.

Why? Because the death of the calorie man dying of a terminal illness is fitting and helps the windup girl to move forward. Same tieh the guy who gets slaughtered, because it positively influences his fellow police officer, who in fact was spying on him.

All deaths in this story made sense, and helped advancing the plot or other characters.

Plot-cancer however, does nothing in that regard.
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Kikinho said:
Literally! After the braincancer news, all I would wanna do is experience all the earthly pleasures before my heart gives in. Brain cancer would never have a chance.
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Death by "bubu" before the brain cancer has a chance to get me. Noice!
 
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lokozar

lokozar

Fresh user
#8,098
Dec 29, 2020
StarkHelsing said:
Technically if your immune system is attacking your neurones, becoming a raging alcoholic will make you immunocompromised - weakening the response. Might earn you an extra month at least - either way, it's killing your brain cells. One just sounds a lot more fun compared to random coughing up blood.

ALSO, WHY AM I COUGHING UP BLOOD? This legit was not explained and still makes no sense?????
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Beeecause ... that's something you can show from 1st person view ... :D
 
tRYSIS3

tRYSIS3

Senior user
#8,099
Dec 29, 2020
arcsirc said:
Regardless of my thoughts on this opinion, he ended up (pretend)dead AFTER a trilogy as a developed character.
Kratos gets 3 games, we didn't even get 3 acts.
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I'd argue that the more popular the character becomes the more difficult it is to kill them off. But either way, they shouldn't have killed V, since the game is about survival
 
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Notserious80

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#8,100
Dec 29, 2020
lokozar said:
Beeecause ... that's something you can show from 1st person view ... :D
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Yea melting brain from your ears is hard to se in a FPS...
 
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