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[Spoiler Alert] About the endings

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Do you want more RPGs with happy endings?

  • Yes, I miss happy endings.

    Votes: 503 42.0%
  • No, I am content with the endings currently offered.

    Votes: 122 10.2%
  • I think that the option should be available for those who want it.

    Votes: 354 29.6%
  • It’s more complicated than that.

    Votes: 218 18.2%

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Ratkatcher

Ratkatcher

Fresh user
#8,101
Dec 29, 2020
Having 'finished' chosing Panam as my helper, I am disappointed that there is nothing to do once the fighting is over, there is 6 months of 'life' thrown away rather than dropping you back in the game.

I'm playing through the other 5 'deaths' now - not happy that I paid £50 for an open world game that the storyline is basically on rails, just choose your death at the end, having lost your own character early on.

The game is very 'pretty' graphically, some of the characters are excellent, but having Johnny take over your life so early in the game made it tiresome for me, and I was almost glad to reach the point of no return. :shrug:
 
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I_Willenbrock_I

I_Willenbrock_I

Senior user
#8,102
Dec 29, 2020
arcsirc said:
post nasal brain drip, 100% fatality rate.
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And here we have the next problem. We are having all. This fatal symtoms, yet johnny walks away in perfect condition.
It doesn't make any sense.
 
tRYSIS3

tRYSIS3

Senior user
#8,103
Dec 29, 2020
I_Willenbrock_I said:
I have not played God of War.
But I read "the windup girl".

Spoiler:


One of the main protagonists dies of a fatal illness that is basically self inflicted out of ignorance and control over a coworker, who ignored cases of illness in the company. Said coworker survives despite being the arse of the story.
Meanwhile the windup girl (the name giving character) is left alone at the end.

Oh and BTW. One of the other main characters gets horrifically slaughtered by the end of the second third of the book.

The book is excellent.

Why? Because the death of the calorie man dying of a terminal illness is fitting and helps the windup girl to move forward. Same tieh the guy who gets slaughtered, because it positively influences his fellow police officer, who in fact was spying on him.

All deaths in this story made sense, and helped advancing the plot or other characters.

Plot-cancer however, does nothing in that regard.
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I have seen movies where the main character dies, but the ending could still be considered "happy". The problem with Cyberpunk is that V dying renders the entire purpose of the story pointless.
 
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andrezzyn

andrezzyn

Forum regular
#8,104
Dec 29, 2020
After rethinking how V got into this trap and having these endings I come to the conclusion that The game was rigged from the start.
 
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Barsenthor

Barsenthor

Senior user
#8,105
Dec 29, 2020
Media as an art always follows the era they are made in. Like b class ufo movie about aliens exterminating mankind as a allegory to horrors of Nazi and the threat imposed by Soviets. Noir and dark themes of movies in 70/80 like Escape from New York as a allegory to the rising crimes.
But every movie followed few simple rules that there must be a silver lining and “action and reactionl”

CP77 has non of it. There is no silver lining and even worse lack of silver lining is not caused by “action - reaction” dynamics.
To make things even worse game was advertised as you can have a choice.

Dark (series on Netflix) is a perfect example how you can marry dark themes, bitter sweet ending with complicated story and be one of the best series of its time.

CP77 looks like a triple A version of Nier Automata but this time done on steroids.
They forget that Nier was a dark and depressive game from very beginning. Whole 2b journey felt futile from its very beginning and something was not right with whole story.
Yet Cyberpunk has non of this aspects. We live in the age of mediacal and technological marvels, people get resurrected (In Lizzy, Saburo) yet you are about to die from cancer and than there is no treatment since the cancer something something change your DNA - like the frack? It’s even contradicting basic medicine, but hey biochip- both AI goddess and bigges corpo on world cant fix this.

This is immersion breaking and after this whole plot and game with it crumbles
 
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arcsirc

Forum regular
#8,106
Dec 29, 2020
V is so farcically fucked that if you look at the story from a detached point of view it really has transcended tragedy into a dark comedy.
 
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I_Willenbrock_I

I_Willenbrock_I

Senior user
#8,107
Dec 29, 2020
tRYSIS3 said:
I have seen movies where the main character dies, but the ending could still be considered "happy". The problem with Cyberpunk is that V dying renders the entire purpose of the story pointless.
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Not only that.
It's absolutely not necessary from a story telling perspective, because the story has already been told.
We get the information on the terminal disease during the epilogue in a way that does not make sense or helps progressing the story.
 
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arcsirc

arcsirc

Forum regular
#8,108
Dec 29, 2020
I just want to post this again.

dontfeedthegamers.com

Cyberpunk 2077 Will Have Complete Expansions, Ending Is "Very Rewarding"

According to CD Projekt RED, the ending to Cyberpunk 2077 will be "very rewarding" and there will be complete expansions in the future.
dontfeedthegamers.com dontfeedthegamers.com

"Liu continued to note how the ending itself is going to be “very rewarding” for those who dive into Night City. “So I don’t want to spoil anything right now, but very satisfying story arc, right? You’re going to see characters and you’ll see them develop,” he said. “You’re going to see them go through conflicts and resolve those conflicts. It’ll be a very rewarding ending. "
 
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Notserious80

Forum regular
#8,109
Dec 29, 2020
Ahhh its enough to read the captions under the pics on the main CP2077 site. just makes me depressed tbh..
 
arcsirc

arcsirc

Forum regular
#8,110
Dec 29, 2020
I_Willenbrock_I said:
Not only that.
It's absolutely not necessary from a story telling perspective, because the story has already been told.
We get the information on the terminal disease during the epilogue in a way that does not make sense or helps progressing the story.
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the and then style of narrative common to stories I wrote at 8 years of age trying to be a cool dude who didn't afraid of anything.
 
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Void Eclipse

Void Eclipse

Forum regular
#8,111
Dec 29, 2020
arcsirc said:
I just want to post this again.

dontfeedthegamers.com

Cyberpunk 2077 Will Have Complete Expansions, Ending Is "Very Rewarding"

According to CD Projekt RED, the ending to Cyberpunk 2077 will be "very rewarding" and there will be complete expansions in the future.
dontfeedthegamers.com dontfeedthegamers.com

"Liu continued to note how the ending itself is going to be “very rewarding” for those who dive into Night City. “So I don’t want to spoil anything right now, but very satisfying story arc, right? You’re going to see characters and you’ll see them develop,” he said. “You’re going to see them go through conflicts and resolve those conflicts. It’ll be a very rewarding ending. "
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Every day something new old comes up.
 
lokozar

lokozar

Fresh user
#8,112
Dec 29, 2020
arcsirc said:
I just want to post this again.

dontfeedthegamers.com

Cyberpunk 2077 Will Have Complete Expansions, Ending Is "Very Rewarding"

According to CD Projekt RED, the ending to Cyberpunk 2077 will be "very rewarding" and there will be complete expansions in the future.
dontfeedthegamers.com dontfeedthegamers.com

"Liu continued to note how the ending itself is going to be “very rewarding” for those who dive into Night City. “So I don’t want to spoil anything right now, but very satisfying story arc, right? You’re going to see characters and you’ll see them develop,” he said. “You’re going to see them go through conflicts and resolve those conflicts. It’ll be a very rewarding ending. "
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That did not age well ...
 
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I_Willenbrock_I

I_Willenbrock_I

Senior user
#8,113
Dec 29, 2020
So we add the rewarding endings to the lost of cut features?
 
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Notserious80

Forum regular
#8,114
Dec 29, 2020
Nothing they said about this game did. Alot of talents dont work. alot of augments does nothing. But now free DLC soon! yay
 
I_Willenbrock_I

I_Willenbrock_I

Senior user
#8,115
Dec 29, 2020
arcsirc said:
the and then style of narrative common to stories I wrote at 8 years of age trying to be a cool dude who didn't afraid of anything.
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Exactly.
"but then little Peter woke up in his bed and it was all just a bad dream... End"
 
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Notserious80

Forum regular
#8,116
Dec 29, 2020
I_Willenbrock_I said:
Exactly.
"but then little Peter woke up in his bed and it was all just a bad dream... End"
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Hahah that would be like... the best thing now.
 
andrezzyn

andrezzyn

Forum regular
#8,117
Dec 29, 2020
"You’re going to see them go through conflicts and resolve those conflicts. It’ll be a very rewarding ending."
Gerador de GIFs de Futurama? Shut up and take my money! - Meio Bit
 
JuanEvil

JuanEvil

Forum regular
#8,118
Dec 29, 2020
arcsirc said:
I just want to post this again.

dontfeedthegamers.com

Cyberpunk 2077 Will Have Complete Expansions, Ending Is "Very Rewarding"

According to CD Projekt RED, the ending to Cyberpunk 2077 will be "very rewarding" and there will be complete expansions in the future.
dontfeedthegamers.com dontfeedthegamers.com

"Liu continued to note how the ending itself is going to be “very rewarding” for those who dive into Night City. “So I don’t want to spoil anything right now, but very satisfying story arc, right? You’re going to see characters and you’ll see them develop,” he said. “You’re going to see them go through conflicts and resolve those conflicts. It’ll be a very rewarding ending. "
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Did they really think that 7 endings in a "RPG" where the main character dies no matter what was going to be satisfying?
 
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jahkin

Forum regular
#8,119
Dec 29, 2020
arcsirc said:
I just want to post this again.

dontfeedthegamers.com

Cyberpunk 2077 Will Have Complete Expansions, Ending Is "Very Rewarding"

According to CD Projekt RED, the ending to Cyberpunk 2077 will be "very rewarding" and there will be complete expansions in the future.
dontfeedthegamers.com dontfeedthegamers.com

"Liu continued to note how the ending itself is going to be “very rewarding” for those who dive into Night City. “So I don’t want to spoil anything right now, but very satisfying story arc, right? You’re going to see characters and you’ll see them develop,” he said. “You’re going to see them go through conflicts and resolve those conflicts. It’ll be a very rewarding ending. "
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He referred to those legendary items you can find after all is done (and can't use...)

A sense of pride and accomplishment!
 
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I_Willenbrock_I

I_Willenbrock_I

Senior user
#8,120
Dec 29, 2020
JuanEvil said:
Did they really think that 7 endings in a "RPG" where the main character dies no matter what was going to be satisfying?
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The only satisfying thing about the endings was the pile of straciatella ice cream I shoveled into my mouth...
 
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