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[Spoiler Alert] About the endings

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Do you want more RPGs with happy endings?

  • Yes, I miss happy endings.

    Votes: 492 42.7%
  • No, I am content with the endings currently offered.

    Votes: 113 9.8%
  • I think that the option should be available for those who want it.

    Votes: 342 29.7%
  • It’s more complicated than that.

    Votes: 205 17.8%

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Willowhugger

Willowhugger

Forum veteran
#8,821
Dec 31, 2020
SaulTuk said:
I was joking, mostly. To be serious, if chip can overwrite DNA for new owner (which Relic 2 did, because in the end Johny could walk V's body without any 6 months crap), Arasaka could use any body for their immortal club. Our chip succesfully rewrore DNA for Johny's engram, but will not rewrite it for V's engram? Convenient logic violation)
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I figure that you will eventually get to body stealing. Hence why you're going in the Save your Soul program.
 
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SaulTuk

SaulTuk

Senior user
#8,822
Dec 31, 2020
Willowhugger said:
I understand the RPG problem actually. The game feels like it is rushing you along and then you find out, no, there's never a time other than the Watson Lockdown where you can just act like a Witcher.....err Edgerunner. It's not unreasonable. It's why I wish they had established you had months to live beforehand and not as an Ending issue.
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Personally i had not such a problem. After Dex shot V, he was dead to me, and every breath after that was a gift and borrowed time. And if that's so, the best way to spent this borrowed time is to help as many people as possible, like Arthur in RDR2. Chasing the glory, wealth and "leaving the mark" are just illusions of amatuer teenagers for me.
 
Willowhugger

Willowhugger

Forum veteran
#8,823
Dec 31, 2020
tRYSIS3 said:
I don't care about the future, what's important is what is in front of me which is V not cured.
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Except they are because it's the ending. You are not getting away with denying they're cured because it's in the game.

I'm aware of that, I said it in my first post here, it's their problem, not mine. If he can't be removed then it's bad game design
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That's just silly. "I don't want the game to be over when the story is over."

Anyway, I'm done. Thanks for the conversation guys.
 
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I_Willenbrock_I

I_Willenbrock_I

Senior user
#8,824
Dec 31, 2020
Willowhugger said:
The game also has numerous points where it says, "Wait for X to call" and you are stuck waiting for characters to make arrangements to help solve your problems. So you do have time to be Night City Batman.
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Well i basically got those calls right after I finished the next main mission arc.

The next problem with the missions are that they present you with a very high sense of urgency:

The parade is coming up soon
(parades usually have a set date and when you get the call, I am inclined to believe that in dont have time for 3 or 4 side gigs)

Keng Tao has submitted a flight plan and the AV will start soon. (nuff said)

Even the side missions tell you, come on V, we have to act right now or the opportunity is missed.

When I finished the last mission, I thought... Well. Time to finish all those side gigs. Nope. Hanala ist waomiting in that fancy restaurant and want to talk you you. (don't let her wait)
 
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arcsirc

arcsirc

Forum regular
#8,825
Dec 31, 2020
Willowhugger said:
Thankfully, V has enough time to finish all content before his death because that's what the game is set up for.



Now I'm just confused. WHAT CHEAP SOLUTION?
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yeah and I tend to roleplay my roleplaying games, avoiding the old ludonarrative dissonance, because the immersion is where I get my value from this game and games like it. Not to mention playing blind with no idea how the timers work if things have times, what systems cdpr have set up in the background, i'm oblivious to all of that.
 
SaulTuk

SaulTuk

Senior user
#8,826
Dec 31, 2020
Willowhugger said:
I figure that you will eventually get to body stealing. Hence why you're going in the Save your Soul program.
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Nah, my V went with nomads. I never even considered Arasaka ending. Funny that V got no option to eat the pills, come to meet Hanako and then kill her and her bodugurds right there. If V is capable of solo raid Mikoshi, he could easily obliterate Hanako.
 
poldengonyboy

poldengonyboy

Forum regular
#8,827
Dec 31, 2020
Willowhugger said:
I am curious what people thought of Fallout: New Vegas. You can't play past that because almost all of the game's sidequests are about Hoover Dam, the Legion vs. NCR War, and other factors. The story has to end there because the game world utterly changes.
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A lot of people seem to forget this right now. I think part of it too though is people aren't just mad that we can't continue playing after the ending, but we are "dying". They're mad that they didn't get the fairytale ending that they wanted, not saying they shouldn't be mad, but I feel like they aren't understanding that that's the point of the whole story.

The whole story is about how we aren't the saviour of the world, we're just another guy and we aren't in control of anything, things go terribly wrong for us all the time in this game. Why did we think everything was gonna work out for us when everyone and everything throughout the whole game was trying to convince us it wasn't gonna go as planned? Why are people mad that V is supposedly dying? People die everyday, so many characters around us in the game died unexpectedly and there's nothing you can do to change that. That's how life is in real life and especially in a dark-dystopian world like Cyberpunk.

But even in saying that, there's still hope at the end. Whether you go with Panam or sell your soul or Work for Blue Eyes, there's still hope that we can find a cure or find a way to live again. (If you go with Panam, Misty basically confirms that you're doing alright afterall).
 
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tRYSIS3

tRYSIS3

Senior user
#8,828
Dec 31, 2020
Willowhugger said:
The Tarot says they're cured in Nomad.

Arasaka makes you immortal.
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The first one is part of an optional ending and it's set outside of the game world, second option turns you into computer software that is not controlled by the player (immortal indeed). Both are also based on speculation, not fact, the fact is that my character is sick without a cure

Willowhugger said:
Now what's your perspective on Nomad and Arasaka if they have V live?
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I'm not interested in paying for any content that allows me to find a cure for my character, something that should have been done in the base game
 
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I_Willenbrock_I

I_Willenbrock_I

Senior user
#8,829
Dec 31, 2020
SaulTuk said:
Personally i had not such a problem. After Dex shot V, he was dead to me, and every breath after that was a gift and borrowed time. And if that's so, the best way to spent this borrowed time is to help as many people as possible, like Arthur in RDR2. Chasing the glory, wealth and "leaving the mark" are just illusions of amatuer teenagers for me.
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The difference is that Vhas a chance to safe his/her life.

Arthur does not. He is fucked no matter what he tries.

This makes the whole difference. Arthur's remaining time is about making amendments, helping people, getting filthy rich, etc.

V's remaining time is focused on fingind a cure for the biochip problem. In fact, the small caliber bullet dex pumped into your head would not even necessarily have killed you. Vic made that clear.
 
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stndn

stndn

Forum regular
#8,830
Dec 31, 2020
tRYSIS3 said:
I'm not interested in paying for any content that allows me to find a cure for my character, something that should have been done in the base game
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Then don't pay for it.
 
I_Willenbrock_I

I_Willenbrock_I

Senior user
#8,831
Dec 31, 2020
poldengonyboy said:
A lot of people seem to forget this right now. I think part of it too though is people aren't just mad that we can't continue playing after the ending, but we are "dying". They're mad that they didn't get the fairytale ending that they wanted, not saying they shouldn't be mad, but I feel like they aren't understanding that that's the point of the whole story.

The whole story is about how we aren't the saviour of the world, we're just another guy and we aren't in control of anything, things go terribly wrong for us all the time in this game. Why did we think everything was gonna work out for us when everyone and everything throughout the whole game was trying to convince us it wasn't gonna go as planned? Why are people mad that V is supposedly dying? People die everyday, so many characters around us in the game died unexpectedly and there's nothing you can do to change that. That's how life is in real life and especially in a dark-dystopian world like Cyberpunk.

But even in saying that, there's still hope at the end. Whether you go with Panam or sell your soul or Work for Blue Eyes, there's still hope that we can find a cure or find a way to live again. (If you go with Panam, Misty basically confirms that you're doing alright afterall).
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So. You are really saying that people are too dumb to see the higher meaning of going belly up?

Bold words.
 
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arcsirc

arcsirc

Forum regular
#8,832
Dec 31, 2020
SaulTuk said:
Yeah, i see no problem with that. I guess, that people who desperately demands freedom to play after ending are just escaping reality, and no play after ending ruins that.
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and it's a joy to restart because you've got no idea how the story is going to turn out and you don't get paged by an intercranial haemorrhage every time you finish a quest. In cyberpunk the writing is on the wall, no future, like the game can't shut up about it.
 
Willowhugger

Willowhugger

Forum veteran
#8,833
Dec 31, 2020
Arthur can explictly survive his condition if he finds some place warm and rests for however many months to survive it. Instead, he pushes himself and dies.

You don't get a choice, though, because you're not directing Arthur.
 
SaulTuk

SaulTuk

Senior user
#8,834
Dec 31, 2020
I_Willenbrock_I said:
The difference is that Vhas a chance to safe his/her life.

Arthur does not. He is fucked no matter what he tries.

This makes the whole difference. Arthur's remaining time is about making amendments, helping people, getting filthy rich, etc.

V's remaining time is focused on fingind a cure for the biochip problem. In fact, the small caliber bullet dex pumped into your head would not even necessarily have killed you. Vic made that clear.
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And that's the sign of bad writing and game labeling. CD should remove open wordlness (as in original Mafia), remove RPG label and make clear that V is also fucked no matter what. That would be not half-bad criminal visual novel, instead we got terrible RPG with static scenery open world.
 
poldengonyboy

poldengonyboy

Forum regular
#8,835
Dec 31, 2020
I_Willenbrock_I said:
So. You are really saying that people are too dumb to see the higher meaning of going belly up?

Bold words.
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I mean if they understood it so clearly then why are they so mad about how it ended? To me and to many others it all makes perfect sense.
 
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Willowhugger

Willowhugger

Forum veteran
#8,836
Dec 31, 2020
SaulTuk said:
And that's the sign of bad writing and game labeling. CD should remove open wordlness (as in original Mafia), remove RPG label and make clear that V is also fucked no matter what. That would be not half-bad criminal visual novel, instead we got terrible RPG with static scenery open world.
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Except....for the fact they survive in two endings. Possibly three.
 
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tRYSIS3

tRYSIS3

Senior user
#8,837
Dec 31, 2020
Willowhugger said:
Except they are because it's the ending. You are not getting away with denying they're cured because it's in the game.
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Show me where it says in the game that V is cured and I'll eat my words
Willowhugger said:
That's just silly. "I don't want the game to be over when the story is over."

Anyway, I'm done. Thanks for the conversation guys.
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This is the case in all open-world games, including cdpr's last title TW3
 
SaulTuk

SaulTuk

Senior user
#8,838
Dec 31, 2020
arcsirc said:
and it's a joy to restart because you've got no idea how the story is going to turn out and you don't get paged by an intercranial haemorrhage every time you finish a quest. In cyberpunk the writing is on the wall, no future, like the game can't shut up about it.
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Cyberpunk has a very bad writing.
 
I_Willenbrock_I

I_Willenbrock_I

Senior user
#8,839
Dec 31, 2020
Willowhugger said:
Arthur can explictly survive his condition if he finds some place warm and rests for however many months to survive it. Instead, he pushes himself and dies.

You don't get a choice, though, because you're not directing Arthur.
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Pal. During that time, "moths" were terminal.
Even today if not treated they are terminal..

A warm and t dry place only gives you additional time but the bacteria will still dissolve your lungs.


Are we starting to ignore real life illnesses now?
 
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SaulTuk

SaulTuk

Senior user
#8,840
Dec 31, 2020
Willowhugger said:
Except....for the fact they survive in two endings. Possibly three.
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Probably survives. Lack of definitive closure is another sign of bad writing.
 
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