Well both for that matter, I think Arasaka is the most realistic and probably canon if the story is to be continued
Endless Hero's Jorney story, much like Roland and the tower)
the good old tower saga... it's been a while since i've read that.
But it's overused... Like ignoring the marginot line.
Just one more example of overall ideas crysis, which we can see everywhere.
It was more a rhetorical question anyway.
I just wanted to point out how overused that trope really is.
It's not illogical within the story or abstract but in the light of those events it's not illogical to be wanting for closure and cure for V's condition.
Unless off course it's just a ham fisted plot device used to introduce a motivation for V to participate in a new expansion.
With V being ok, there would be no bargaining chip to instrumentise one of the most legendary mercs in history.
(hey we killed Adam smasher - not even Morgan blNlackhand managed that)
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But that's not a specific problem of this story. Look at movies. Remakes. Remakes everywhere.
It’s still a bad ending if you need to finish the story of the stand alone installment through expensions.
Expensions were always meant to tell the of the finished story or spin-off unless the game was just a some part of the longer journey.
Game never was advertised as a title that will be released in parts like the remaster of FF VII is.
DLC won’t change this, and even it they will fix endings it will be a bad practice and outrage (if there will be one), will be understandable.
Expensions were always meant to tell the of the finished story or spin-off unless the game was just a some part of the longer journey.
Game never was advertised as a title that will be released in parts like the remaster of FF VII is.
DLC won’t change this, and even it they will fix endings it will be a bad practice and outrage (if there will be one), will be understandable.
I think DLC will not affect the endings at all. Cars, gear, gigs, 1-2 Blood and Wine standalone campaigns, unrelated to main plot, and then CD will leave CP77 rest in peace and make money online.
I mean. You don't have to buy them...
With the release of a post credit dlc or expansion, you could simply alter the endings of the core game (when DLC/expansion is not installed) to tell you that V found a cure. You could easily do that in during the credits... Cheap but effective.
True that, you need to dig some good movies in 2010-2020th, so rare they become.It was more a rhetorical question anyway.
I just wanted to point out how overused that trope really is.
It's not illogical within the story or abstract but in the light of those events it's not illogical to be wanting for closure and cure for V's condition.
Unless off course it's just a ham fisted plot device used to introduce a motivation for V to participate in a new expansion.
With V being ok, there would be no bargaining chip to instrumentise one of the most legendary mercs in history.
(hey we killed Adam smasher - not even Morgan blNlackhand managed that)
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But that's not a specific problem of this story. Look at movies. Remakes. Remakes everywhere.
Tbh I still think this holds true though. You did technically get a full story in CP2077 from beginning to end. V still exhausted every possible avenue at his disposal to search for a cure. The problem is it never worked out in his favor in the end.
I guess that's where the whole 'next act' comes in
If this is the case, it will be the final CDPR game for a lot of people. We don't play this kind of games for multi-player. In addition, other companies can do that better and the market is already pretty saturated...
Act 2 missions don't really make sense, because they will ultimately present us with either a new disappointment for V or time wasted on some BS crusade...
... Unless they open up additional choices at the end.
I highly doubt it, because such thing will effectively destroy all current endings (there are no fools to agree on shitty endings when there is option to get a good one) and discreditise CD Projekt writers even worse. And, frankly speaking, i doubt there are enough nitcpickers like us to remake endings for everyone. I guess the vast majority of players is content, and additional/remade ending will not please them, but force them to ask dangerous questions, like wtf is going on. And you don't want your customers to ask questions)
A reasonable question arises - why does the player need to play this?
The players, oddly enough, play in order to do something in the game. Unless the game is an online grinder.
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Bioware thought so too. As a result, Andromeda and Anthem were buried by the players even before the release.
Oh i absolutely agree that the endings have to be logical and satisfying on their own and that optional content in the form of Dlcs and expansions should either introduce a new game mode where you can explore the games world without Johnny and the deathclock or a new act for V, where we get a new adventure and a cure.
I just wanted to point out that mid game DLCs/expansions don't make sense, if they don't have to add something to the game.
We don't have time and need to safe our brain. A massive 20h story line (implied by the blood and winencomment), that only adds another disappointment to V, because another read to solve the problem would make no sense, because the end of the new story would already be spoiled by the ending itself.
It would just be a waste of V's time...
On the contrary... if you change the endings, casual players don't really care for, why would changing them make them ask questions?
Or why would additional endings that take player agency and involvement into account piss them off? It would be another choice for them to explore.
It’s also leave a bad taste like you were cheated. Next time I see something with CDPR logo on it my first thought won’t be “how great TW3 was0 but how bad the endings of CP77 were.
Showbiz is about emotions and here emotions are bad, and not a bad but with some message, but bad as being something opposite the the main game.
Look on the Nier Automata. Game is melancholic with sad endint yet people like this becouse it’s inline with the whole story and ending is a logical consequence of the whole story, it even can be interpreted as a happy ending for main characters.
CP77 is not like this; it contradicts it self many times and make endings pointless. In the Nier you could say that ending (the last ultimate one) was sad but it was not a pointless one from story perspective (fight between machines and well human kind if you know what I mean).
I won’t preorder or do a day-1 buy any more of their products.
You need only 10-20% of your customers to do the same and with any major product and release you have a big problem.
What do you mean? There's plenty to do in the game. Personally I'm on my 2nd playthrough just to reexperience the side quests alone.