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[Spoiler Alert] About the endings

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Do you want more RPGs with happy endings?

  • Yes, I miss happy endings.

    Votes: 492 42.7%
  • No, I am content with the endings currently offered.

    Votes: 113 9.8%
  • I think that the option should be available for those who want it.

    Votes: 342 29.7%
  • It’s more complicated than that.

    Votes: 205 17.8%

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SaulTuk

SaulTuk

Senior user
#8,941
Dec 31, 2020
I_Willenbrock_I said:
It's the reason most of us play the game...at all.

Ignoring the main plot in a story that focuses on the main plot is like ordering a steak, just to only eat the fries...
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Well, if you got bad steak, at least you can eat the fries and pass the steak).
 
I_Willenbrock_I

I_Willenbrock_I

Senior user
#8,942
Dec 31, 2020
SaulTuk said:
Well, if you got bad steak, at least you can eat the fries and pass the steak).
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No. I get a new steak, because I payed for a steak with fires and not fries with a steak that taste like crap.

I dont expect them to work extreme magic on the endings... I could live with very well made sidemission, who alter the endings in a way that really saves V.

Addition effort should be rewarded in a game and this is where cp2077 fails to deliver.

Minimalistic playthrough plus penam sidemission is exactly like completionist plus penal sidemission - this is a problem.
 
SaulTuk

SaulTuk

Senior user
#8,943
Dec 31, 2020
I_Willenbrock_I said:
No. I get a new steak, because I payed for a steak with fires and not fries with a steak that taste like crap.
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Yes, and the new steak is total game remaster. Plot DLC many people here dream about is like good sauce to already bad steak).
 
tRYSIS3

tRYSIS3

Senior user
#8,944
Dec 31, 2020
I_Willenbrock_I said:
No. I get a new steak, because I payed for a steak with fires and not fries with a steak that taste like crap.
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you can't get new steaks because they all taste like crap
 
Callidous

Callidous

Fresh user
#8,945
Dec 31, 2020
Willowhugger said:
Except they are because it's the ending. You are not getting away with denying they're cured because it's in the game.
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It's not in the game.

Alt tells you she can cure you. It doesn't work out that way. Takemura tells you Arasaka can cure you. It doesn't work out that way. Now Panam tells you she knows people in Arizona and she assures you will be cured, because no particular reason. V agrees, also because no particular reason.

Despite this, you chose to just believe in Panam's optimism, who offers no actual reason why we should be optimistic. You just go ahead believing V is going to be cured. But don't pretend that it's the writers' intention to tell us this is what's going to happen. Because the game actually tells us the opposite. It tells us not to believe the promisses of a cure. It's your choice to believe in the cure, not the writers'.

Panam really has no idea how all of this works and V too has always had to rely on others' expertise (Vik, Hellman, Alt). They're both completely unqualified to make any credible prediction about V's health. What they are qualified to do, is to "never stop fighting". And that's what they chose to do. And no, the Tarot does not confirm V is going to be cured. It doesn't refute it either, but I don't need that to doubt baseless promises.
 
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stndn

stndn

Forum regular
#8,946
Dec 31, 2020
tRYSIS3 said:
Ironic considering that pretty much all of the items collected during the endings do not carry over to the game
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Exactly. Which is why I'm confident we'll be seeing more of V in the future.
 
SaulTuk

SaulTuk

Senior user
#8,947
Dec 31, 2020
stndn said:
Exactly. Which is why I'm confident we'll be seeing more of V in the future.
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Blessed be the hopeful)
 
I_Willenbrock_I

I_Willenbrock_I

Senior user
#8,948
Dec 31, 2020
tRYSIS3 said:
you can't get new steaks because they all taste like crap
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In this case, I will not go to that steakhouse again...
 
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tRYSIS3

tRYSIS3

Senior user
#8,949
Dec 31, 2020
If the creator of the chip himself tells you that there is no cure, then surely the trailer trash will be the ones to find it, lmao
 
stndn

stndn

Forum regular
#8,950
Dec 31, 2020
SaulTuk said:
Blessed be the hopeful)
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Just weighing the odds and hedging my bets.

It's more likely for a studio to go with established characters than to reinvent the wheel and come up with a new character for a DLC.
 
SaulTuk

SaulTuk

Senior user
#8,951
Dec 31, 2020
I_Willenbrock_I said:
In this case, I will not go to that steakhouse again...
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That will probably bankrupt them... Or not, given that this thread is the only nest of unsatisfied nitpickers, Reddit discussions and YouTube comments have mixed opinions at best. Not even a sign of organized protest like cake spam of Bioware office after ME3, so i actually doubt we, nitpickers, can really affect anything, we are few.
 
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I_Willenbrock_I

I_Willenbrock_I

Senior user
#8,952
Dec 31, 2020
stndn said:
Just weighing the odds and hedging my bets.

It's more likely for a studio to go with established characters than to reinvent the wheel and some up with a new character for a DLC.
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On this we agree.
In addition, we would need a new back story, unless we play as an already established character like rogue or just put a new datashard with some remembered BS into our socket.
All bad attempts...
 
stndn

stndn

Forum regular
#8,953
Dec 31, 2020
SaulTuk said:
That will probably bankrupt them... Or not, given that this thread is the only nest of unsatisfied nitpickers, Reddit discussions and YouTube comments have mixed opinions at best. Not even a sign of organized protest like cake spam of Bioware office after ME3, so i actually doubt we, nitpickers, can really affect anything, we are few.
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I think I agree with you.
 
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SaulTuk

SaulTuk

Senior user
#8,954
Dec 31, 2020
stndn said:
Just weighing the odds and hedging my bets.

It's more likely for a studio to go with established characters than to reinvent the wheel and come up with a new character for a DLC.
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Yes, and that would probably be side campaigns, totaly unrelated to main plot. Probably even in Act 1, before the Heist, so players could enjoy it and friendship with Jackie without false urgency)
 
I_Willenbrock_I

I_Willenbrock_I

Senior user
#8,955
Dec 31, 2020
SaulTuk said:
That will probably bankrupt them... Or not, given that this thread is the only nest of unsatisfied nitpickers, Reddit discussions and YouTube comments have mixed opinions at best. Not even a sign of organized protest like cake spam of Bioware office after ME3, so i actually doubt we, nitpickers, can really affect anything, we are few.
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Because mass effect 3 was a total clusterfuck. Here, it's only the endings.
Most people don't even finish the bloody game.

Even if they don't change anything... It's their loss and it saves my precious time...
 
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tRYSIS3

tRYSIS3

Senior user
#8,956
Dec 31, 2020
I_Willenbrock_I said:
Because mass effect 3 was a total clusterfuck. Here, it's only the endings.
Most people don't even finish the bloody game.
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The endings, the bugs, the performance issues, the cut content, etc... I could go on forever, its definitely not "just the endings"

Also unlike EA, CDPR don't have other projects to fall back on, it's either now or never
 
SaulTuk

SaulTuk

Senior user
#8,957
Dec 31, 2020
I_Willenbrock_I said:
Because mass effect 3 was a total clusterfuck. Here, it's only the endings.
Most people don't even finish the bloody game.
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Dunno, i enjoyed the ME3 well enough right before the endings. And most players would probably agree to me in that, even the people who abhor ME3 endings.
My argument stands. I think CD Projekt can withstand our dissapointment here and stick to their plans without any adjustments.
 
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Simuxas

Simuxas

Senior user
#8,958
Dec 31, 2020
Act 1 and act 2 side missions are plain dumb. Why would you try to enhance friendship with Jackie when you know hes gonna die. Thats just gonna be depressing. And in act 2, already mentioned why its just stupid.
 
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SaulTuk

SaulTuk

Senior user
#8,959
Dec 31, 2020
Simuxas said:
Act 1 and act 2 side missions are plain dumb. Why would you try to enhance friendship with Jackie when you know hes gonna die. Thats just gonna be depressing. And in act 2, already mentioned why its just stupid.
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Stupid for us, a few nitpickers. Most of the players will probably eat this just fine. Most of the players do not have problems with endings as they are, so there is no sense for CD Projekt to change their roadmap, established long before the release.
 
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I_Willenbrock_I

I_Willenbrock_I

Senior user
#8,960
Dec 31, 2020
SaulTuk said:
Dunno, i enjoyed the ME3 well enough right before the endings. And most players would probably agree to me in that, even the people who abhor ME3 endings.
My argument stands. I think CD Projekt can withstand our dissapointment here and stick to their plans without any adjustments.
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That implies they actually have a plan..

I mean. If this whole fatalism at the end is just there to give a common ground for story expansions, OK...
 
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