[Spoiler Alert] About the endings

[StarkHelsing]

We, we need total remaster, with cut content and promised features restored and complete endings overhaul, anything less will be not enough. But realistically thinking, remaster will not come sooner than in several (5-7) years.

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Depression is not even close as fatal as seizures and it's hard to prove that game ending caused the depression in court. CD Projekt suits are well aware of that, so we are still not worth the effort(

Just thought I'd pop in and say that depression is the leading cause to suicide, and while I'm not going to like, link anything here on what is more destructive etc. But we should never just glaze over depression. Just that you'd be surprised what can push someone over the edge. Doubtful that it can be linked into a game though unless someone goes out of their way to fat finger it as the thing that really set them off in a depressive state. Like that guy who spent days curled up and crying because Cyberpunk was a huge disappointment.

 

[Barsenthor]

I'd agree with you only if she didn't have bullseye accuracy for when it came to describing the other endings.

Accuracy? What accuracy?
Here every description is a pure fantasy and theory of probability at best.

People are taking those cards for graned because they are the only positive thing left in the game.

The game even never make her as a oracle kind of character rather she was portrayed as a conartist.

Many cards shows after the interaction with npc or events in the game, so that they can be interpreted as a subconscious. Mane of them are taken of the face value like The Fool mural next to you apartment (Misty even says this to you at the beginning of act 1 if you ask her about the cards).

And ending is the same, fact that you get the different set can be interpreted also as a mere luck and nothing special.

also game never made clear that is about spirituality. CDPR always had a rather anti-religion stance with many characters being cold minded/earthbound.
Same with CP77, Misty is the only character in the game that says something about spiritual themes, maybe bedsides th3 ultra short monk quest in Watson.

 

[bcraig6010]

Yes, and that would probably be side campaigns, totaly unrelated to main plot. Probably even in Act 1, before the Heist, so players could enjoy it and friendship with Jackie without false urgency)

Why would I want to play more side missions when I know a FO4 ending awaits me and nothing I do matters in any meaningful sense (other than who is CEO or Arasaka) , or even a new person knowing will be even shorter and nothing will matter,

 

[tRYSIS3]

Depression is not even close as fatal as seizures and it's hard to prove that game ending caused the depression in court. CD Projekt suits are well aware of that, so we are still not worth the effort(

So, going to court is the only way to ask developers to make changes to their games, I wasn't aware of that honestly. Which court should I contact for the bugs I found?

 

[stndn]

Right! either way, I'd say expecting DLC to continue the story is way more unrealistic than a fix to the endings

The problem is you need a massive petition/movement to convince CDPR that the endings are bad enough for them to go back and "fix it".

Like a constant onslaught of reddit posts with 20-30k upvotes at a time.

And since none of that is happening I just find the idea unrealistic. Perhaps a few extra quests in a free patch or at best some additional dialogue. But nothing plot changing because there doesn't seem to be sufficient demand for it beyond this thread (which lets be real - is largely dominated by the same dozen people).

 

[SaulTuk]

Why would I want to play more side missions when I know a FO4 ending awaits me and nothing I do matters in any meaningful sense (other than who is CEO or Arasaka) , or even a new person knowing will be even shorter and nothing will matter,

True that, we need total game remaster, with content cut restored and endings overhauled. Everything less will be like adding assault to injury

 

[TintelFruit]

Right! either way, I'd say expecting DLC to continue the story is way more unrealistic than a fix to the endings

That’s some twisted logic LMAO, The game clearly set up a continuation during the endings, be it following the Nomads or the Mysterious Mr. Blue eyes. And don’t forget the message you get when you try to go towards Arizona.

 

[tRYSIS3]

Accuracy? What accuracy?
Here every description is a pure fantasy and theory of probability at best.

People are taking those cards for graned because they are the only positive thing left in the game.

The game even never make her as a oracle kind of character rather she was portrayed as a conartist.

Many cards shows after the interaction with npc or events in the game, so that they can be interpreted as a subconscious. Mane of them are taken of the face value like The Fool mural next to you apartment (Misty even says this to you at the beginning of act 1 if you ask her about the cards).

And ending is the same, fact that you get the different set can be interpreted also as a mere luck and nothing special.

also game never made clear that is about spirituality. CDPR always had a rather anti-religion stance with many characters being cold minded.
Same with CP77, Misty is the only character in the game that says something about spiritual themes, maybe bedsides th3 ultra short monk quest in Watson.

Let's ignore the fact that you can choose to not look at those tarot cards, so they are literally meaningless

 

[SaulTuk]

So, going to court is the only way to ask developers to make changes to their games, I wasn't aware of that honestly. Which court should I contact for the bugs I found?

If only i know. But you get the idea. Corporations fears scandals and courts, dissapointments on forums? Not so much.

 

[stndn]

Accuracy? What accuracy?
Here every description is a pure fantasy and theory of probability at best.

People are taking those cards for graned because they are the only positive thing left in the game.

The game even never make her as a oracle kind of character rather she was portrayed as a conartist.

Many cards shows after the interaction with npc or events in the game, so that they can be interpreted as a subconscious. Mane of them are taken of the face value like The Fool mural next to you apartment (Misty even says this to you at the beginning of act 1 if you ask her about the cards).

And ending is the same, fact that you get the different set can be interpreted also as a mere luck and nothing special.

also game never made clear that is about spirituality. CDPR always had a rather anti-religion stance with many characters being cold minded.
Same with CP77, Misty is the only character in the game that says something about spiritual themes, maybe bedsides th3 ultra short monk quest in Watson.

They're not the only positive clues though.

 

[I_Willenbrock_I]

Sounds like post-book blues to me.

If you were legitimately clinically depressed after finishing this game then CDPR needs to give their writers a fat bonus.

Disgusting comment.

 

[bcraig6010]

We, we need total remaster, with cut content and promised features restored and complete endings overhaul, anything less will be not enough. But realistically thinking, remaster will not come sooner than in several (5-7) years.

Post automatically merged: Dec 31, 2020

Depression is not even close as fatal as seizures and it's hard to prove that game ending caused the depression in court. CD Projekt suits are well aware of that, so we are still not worth the effort(

Compare morbidity of the two and get back with me.

 

[SaulTuk]

Just thought I'd pop in and say that depression is the leading cause to suicide, and while I'm not going to like, link anything here on what is more destructive etc. But we should never just glaze over depression. Just that you'd be surprised what can push someone over the edge. Doubtful that it can be linked into a game though unless someone goes out of their way to fat finger it as the thing that really set them off in a depressive state. Like that guy who spent days curled up and crying because Cyberpunk was a huge disappointment.

I will not, but still too hard to prove on court than seizures. And if CP77 really causes serious depressions, we will surely hear of such cases soon enough.

 

[Barsenthor]

They're not the only positive clues though.

Oh and what other positive clues we get that are different from the positive clues we get during the course of the MQ?

 

[bcraig6010]

They're not the only positive clues though.

The death sound plus weeks/months of unanswered calls make any such clues moot at best. People grasping at straws as they dont want a fatalistic FO3 ending because deus ex machina.

 

[tRYSIS3]

That’s some twisted logic LMAO, The game clearly set up a continuation during the endings, be it following the Nomads or the Mysterious Mr. Blue eyes. And don’t forget the message you get when you try to go towards Arizona.

That's totally subjective, neither I nor many others (including some that are happy with the nomad ending) see the ending as being open for continuation

 

[stndn]

Disgusting comment.

And it's also something that's astronomically unlikely so spare me the false outrage.

 

[StarkHelsing]

I will not, but still too hard to prove on court than seizures. And if CP77 really causes serious depressions, we will surely hear of such cases soon enough.

Oh certainly, thankfully they patched that though. They can't patch up the massive disappointment of this RPG though. Feel sad for those who waited seven years for this game, and allowed themselves to be taken in by the hype train. That's really destructive in itself. I would have been one of these people if I didn't finally temper myself when the first push back hit.

People's depression is set off by this would not surprise me, it certainly tickled at my own and left me feeling pretty emotionally drained and lacking an appetite. But it's less this game and more this is the what broke the camels back.

 

[SaulTuk]

Compare morbidity of the two and get back with me.

In that case CD would be already sued multiple times and we would definitely heard of this

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Oh certainly, thankfully they patched that though. They can't patch up the massive disappointment of this RPG though. Feel sad for those who waited seven years for this game, and allowed themselves to be taken in by the hype train. That's really destructive in itself. I would have been one of these people if I didn't finally temper myself when the first push back hit.

People's depression is set off by this would not surprise me, it certainly tickled at my own and left me feeling pretty emotionally drained and lacking an appetite. But it's less this game and more this is the what the camels back.

I feel sad myself, this game had great potential.

 

[I_Willenbrock_I]

And it's also something that's astronomically unlikely so spare me the false outrage.

You don't fucking get it don't you?

Making such comments alone shows your absolute lack of empathy, understanding of the general matter and absolutely bad sense of humor.


I will not discuss with you amymore.