The endings that V stays alive ends with him having 6 more months to live, enough time for several Dlcs in search of a cure.
GOT **SPOILERS** Didn't they do that with Jon Snow? xD
GOT **SPOILERS** Didn't they do that with Jon Snow? xD
V isn’t dead yet, how is it you don’t understand this?
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Oof I think they did.
Agreed. But they had one narrative and one world.
They didn't have to deal with so many other people/world status who are in binary dead/alive status outside of V
Status or Corp War
Rogue - dead/alive or even owner of bar
Where romance interests are or even still romance interests
Arasaka strong or weak
its why I'm saddened and not hopeful.
So basically the premise of Act 2, it could be called Act 2 2.0 /s Sorry for a bad joke.
I know why Panam ending is popular because for majority of people it the least bad one and heterosexual male V and lesbian V can be with their SO (ofc no rest for the wicked for the heterosexual female V and gay V).
Yet the reasons why this is a “happy” ending are based on this imagination
- tarot cards could be just hunting game, in game Easter egg. Game says this by for ex portraying Misty who could be made more credible, yet she says that she don’t know much about tarot. Use of the cards also theory of probability and subconscious.
- than there is that Panam will find the why. And this is where we are back to my bad joke.
also we won’t know what was true since the story could be already retconned.
but up to this point game went lengths to hammer down most loophole there was.
It also never made any basics beginnings truly foreshadowing whats next.
We could get to know more about BioTechnica yet we know that they are just some dealings with them, nothing serious and even Panam is against dealing with them (yes yes I know she loves male V and she will surely change her mind)
They could make Alt not to say staff about 6 months. Like I don’t know how long you will live, damage has been done but I can’t say for sure.
Above all why to make next chapter about previous chapters? Like this lore is so empty that we can only care about ourselves? Like no 5th corpo war, no gang of 4, no Blue Eyes People?
we need to really running in circles?
I don’t buy it. And DLC if they will give us next chapter that fixes bad endings are are just there to fix something that should be good from the beginning.
It was as great as GoT final. Foreshadowing at it finest. The last time for me it was with ME2 where I was like “it seems that something jammed in writing department”
Easy you allow the player to select the choices that really matters for like at the start of TW3.
So which epilogue did you get? Would impact Saul and Rogue.
Is Smasher alive?
Is Goro Alive?
Netwatch or Vboys?
Etc etc
To be far I think Johnny silverhand in V's body or soulkilled in arasaka does count as dead. Your engram exists in cyberspace/mikoshi but V as we know them - for those endings - is dead, as mikoshi/dying changed johnny - he said as much. and I'm sure merging with ALT/surviving beyond the blackwall would also have - effects.
We even get a funeral scene with Johnny.
I think Johhny silverhand dying when he was soulkilled is a fair statement to make.
I think saying Alt Cunningham is dead is a fair statement to make,.
Engram and AI/Aspect of them continued on respectfully. But AI Alt is not Alt Cunningham
Johnny in V's body is vastly a different Johnny than he was when he was alive the first time.
Thank you for reminding me, this is further validation of my point. Not only did the writing become arguably worse at that point, but they also made it happen towards the ending of the show because otherwise, it wouldn't be effective.
This is also the case in other character revivals in movies like Justice League or Avengers which all happened towards the end. Not that those are great examples of good storytelling, but that is because reviving or curing a character is a weak tool to begin with.
I'd ask if you have examples of the opposite, in a well-regarded show or movie, but I'm aware that it doesn't exist
Well, I left with Panam and Judy in my Tow as Female/trans V (basically Female, but with an extra)
Still got the ending scene with Panam
Nah up to season 4 writing was great, then it started falling of slightly with each season, still liked it though, but i felt it dropped in quality.
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If V goes in cyberspace with Alt, V is dead.
The first season not based on the books, and it's definitely not the best season in the show. This is beside the point which is that the reviving happens towards the end of the series and not in the second season
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This is pointless. If you know for a fact that there is no continuation are you going to say the same thing?
It was, and especially it was needed, because Jon was one of the actual main characters not even GRR Martin would kill off for good. It was also needed to get him rid of his oath to the night watch...
So within the narrative it made sense. So far, to me and others, the six months seem only there for the drama and "deepness" of the ending.
It would be more like having Jon Snow ending the story with his Ygritte leaving for the North ... and subtitles adding "Jon died 6 months later due to acute Azhor Ahai syndrome! Grimdark!"
The topic went from discussing the ending, to speculating about future expansions and DLC. This thread shouldn't be the place for that
One sec, you don't think that
"after spending 80-100 hours trying to survive - to hand waive away accomplishing that, after all V went through only to fail and be dead/dying"
this is not "slap in the face". This is the right ending for you.
But a poster for you will "shock and a slap"? Yes, people can be weird.
Without talking they wouldn't even consider addressing the problem. This is the company that tried to hide console footage knowing that the game is unplayable. We already know what they care about and it's definitely not the game