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[Spoiler Alert] About the endings

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Do you want more RPGs with happy endings?

  • Yes, I miss happy endings.

    Votes: 492 42.6%
  • No, I am content with the endings currently offered.

    Votes: 115 10.0%
  • I think that the option should be available for those who want it.

    Votes: 343 29.7%
  • It’s more complicated than that.

    Votes: 205 17.7%

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superdemus

superdemus

Senior user
#9,161
Dec 31, 2020
TintelFruit said:
V isn’t dead yet, how is it you don’t understand this?
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Add to it that you can easely use your imagination that V survives in the end with at least one ending, if you long for a happy ending that is.
For example Alt seemed to be bluffing in the aftermath because V would eventually be more suitable than Johnny to join her beyond the blackwall, but only if he/she joins wilingly. Bleeding nose is a short-term side effect of V slowly healing.

At least until dlc or a future sequel confirms his/her death.
 
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lolic99

lolic99

Forum regular
#9,162
Dec 31, 2020
superdemus said:
Add to it that you can easely use your imagination that V survives in the end with at least one ending, if you long for a happy ending that is.
Alt was bluffing for unknown reasons. Bleeding nose is a short-term side effect of V slowly healing.

At least until dlc or a future sequel confirms his/her death.
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Yes, you can achieve a lot using your imagination.
For example, save money on buying a game.
I can quite use my imagination myself, why do I need a paid game that asks for this?
 
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Barsenthor

Barsenthor

Senior user
#9,163
Dec 31, 2020
Simuxas said:
Will have to wait and see what they care about. The game or the money.
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Without this thread we would get Omega like expansion pack...
I see what you did there!

Let’s be honest endings were made like this to be definitive. They are not compatible because in one Arasaka is on the top in other Militech, in one Hanako is living in other is dead. In one V ends up in Arizona, in other in NC in other in Mikoshi in other behind the Blackwall

How can be this addressed? They will make an expansion for each ending?
They said that they want to expand the lore.

Going with canon ending will make this game completely choice-less
 
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Simuxas

Simuxas

Senior user
#9,164
Dec 31, 2020
Barsenthor said:
Without this thread we would get Omega like expansion pack...
I see what you did there!

Let’s be honest endings were made like this to be definitive. They are not compatible because in one Arasaka is on the top in other Militech, in one Hanako is living in other is dead. In one V ends up in Arizona, in other in NC in other in Mikoshi in other behind the Blackwall

How can be this addressed? They will make an expansion for each ending?
They said that they want to expand the lore.

Going with canon ending will make this game completely choice-less
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Ehh, no need that, as Rawl mention before, each ending could have 20 min prologue which leads to same path. Like main game.
By each, i mean ones where V lives so 3 endings.
 
zeemanefekti

zeemanefekti

Fresh user
#9,165
Dec 31, 2020
superdemus said:
Add to it that you can easely use your imagination that V survives in the end with at least one ending, if you long for a happy ending that is.
Alt was bluffing for unknown reasons. Bleeding nose is a short-term side effect of V slowly healing.

At least until dlc or a future sequel confirms his/her death.
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Sleep for a few hours and this thread has another 20 pages of discussion. Love it.

No idea how much sarcasm is in here, but I always sigh when I read "V is dead" as in the 6 month time limit meaning that existentially she is already dead. How is that? The campaign surely does not tell if V dies or lives after the 6 months. It seems to be a really annoying cliffhanger for so many, that they just end up throwing in the towel and stating that V is dead and that is that, not going to wait for the story DLCs to see how the writers will surprise us.
 
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naddaya

naddaya

Forum regular
#9,166
Dec 31, 2020
Simuxas said:
Ehh, no need that, as Rawl mention before, each ending could have 20 min prologue which leads to same path. Like main game.
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Yes it all boils down to just two game states, V in cyberspace or V in body, everything else is just details. There's more stuff in the End-Game And Suspicions About The First DLC thread.
 
tRYSIS3

tRYSIS3

Senior user
#9,167
Dec 31, 2020
Barsenthor said:
Without this thread we would get Omega like expansion pack...
I see what you did there!

Let’s be honest endings were made like this to be definitive. They are not compatible because in one Arasaka is on the top in other Militech, in one Hanako is living in other is dead. In one V ends up in Arizona, in other in NC in other in Mikoshi in other behind the Blackwall

How can be this addressed? They will make an expansion for each ending?
They said that they want to expand the lore.

Going with canon ending will make this game completely choice-less
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I agree 100%. The funny thing is that one ending many are considering to be canon, is literally optional, making it the least likely ending to be canon (even less likely than suicide)
 
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naddaya

naddaya

Forum regular
#9,168
Dec 31, 2020
zeemanefekti said:
Sleep for a few hours and this thread has another 20 pages of discussion. Love it.

No idea how much sarcasm is in here, but I always sigh when I read "V is dead" as in the 6 month time limit meaning that existentially she is already dead. How is that? The campaign surely does not tell if V dies or lives after the 6 months. It seems to be a really annoying cliffhanger for so many, that they just end up throwing in the towel and stating that V is dead and that is that, not going to wait for the story DLCs to see how the writers will surprise us.
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We've been talking in circles for the last couple hundred pages, it's all just speculation at this point
 
lolic99

lolic99

Forum regular
#9,169
Dec 31, 2020
Barsenthor said:
Without this thread we would get Omega like expansion pack...
I see what you did there!

Let’s be honest endings were made like this to be definitive. They are not compatible because in one Arasaka is on the top in other Militech, in one Hanako is living in other is dead. In one V ends up in Arizona, in other in NC in other in Mikoshi in other behind the Blackwall

How can be this addressed? They will make an expansion for each ending?
They said that they want to expand the lore.

Going with canon ending will make this game completely choice-less
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And who drove them into such an ass? Aren't they themselves?
Why now players have to think about how to get out of there?
Of course, they can drop this business and turn an already average passing game into outright rubbish. But then it will probably be the last game they released.
 
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Dezmantdeth

Fresh user
#9,170
Dec 31, 2020
Sorry for my English. I'm from Russia.
Translated via google.
After passing Cyberpunk 2077, an unpleasant aftertaste remained.
I understand that the story is just right for Night City and the world of Cyberpunk and a CD for a good game, I don't look at mistakes. But Cyberpunk V's story is sad at the end. I fell in love with the character V and the people around her. She / he fought for her life, survived as best she could, I can understand her / him. And the reward at the end of V's path is disappointment. Even if they give a hint that she / he can survive for 6 months is not 100%
Of course, I wish there was an opportunity to choose a path at the end of the story and save V. She / he deserves it. Thank you.
 
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Simuxas

Simuxas

Senior user
#9,171
Dec 31, 2020
naddaya said:
Yes it all boils down to just two game states, V in cyberspace or V in body, everything else is just details. There's more stuff in the End-Game And Suspicions About The First DLC thread.
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V in cyberspace means V is 99% dead.
 
naddaya

naddaya

Forum regular
#9,172
Dec 31, 2020
Simuxas said:
V in cyberspace means V is 99% dead.
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Eh, debatable
 
Simuxas

Simuxas

Senior user
#9,173
Dec 31, 2020
naddaya said:
Eh, debatable
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Alt wants to consume engrams and Mikoshi is a scam.
 
superdemus

superdemus

Senior user
#9,174
Dec 31, 2020
lolic99 said:
Yes, you can achieve a lot using your imagination.
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I'm all about happy endings, so I was only trying to suggest something.
 
Barsenthor

Barsenthor

Senior user
#9,175
Dec 31, 2020
Simuxas said:
Ehh, no need that, as Rawl mention before, each ending could have 20 min prologue which leads to same path. Like main game.
By each, i mean ones where V lives so 3 endings.
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And what about Militech? Arasaka? State of NC? Commercialization of space?
How this can be addressed?

This is not something easy to fix by backstory without making CP77 story a parody.

It’s not something that you do intentionally if you want to write a story with a cliffhanger and than make a bunch of dlc as act 4, act 5.
 
naddaya

naddaya

Forum regular
#9,176
Dec 31, 2020
Simuxas said:
Alt wants to consume engrams and Mikoshi is a scam.
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Alt never specified what happens to engram once they're consumed, how long the process takes and how much integrity they retain. The commercialized version of Soulkiller is a scam and Arasaka's main goal was to datamine the engrams, but what happens to V is The Devil is not explicitly stated. Arasaka is not going to unfreeze them out of the kindness of their heart, if at all, and nothing guarantees that they won't try to make edits, but it's not set in stone.
 
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Simuxas

Simuxas

Senior user
#9,177
Dec 31, 2020
Barsenthor said:
And what about Militech? Arasaka? State of NC? Commercialization of space?
How this can be addressed?

This is not something easy to fix by backstory without making CP77 story a parody.

It’s not something that you do intentionally if you want to write a story with a cliffhanger and than make a bunch of dlc as act 4, act 5.
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Not up to me, up to writers to decide. All i can do is speculate.

In all endings Honoka lives, so she can rebuild the toweror something.
 
lolic99

lolic99

Forum regular
#9,178
Dec 31, 2020
Dezmantdeth said:
Sorry for my English. I'm from Russia.
Translated via google.
After passing Cyberpunk 2077, an unpleasant aftertaste remained.
I understand that the story is just right for Night City and the world of Cyberpunk and a CD for a good game, I don't look at mistakes. But Cyberpunk V's story is sad at the end. I fell in love with the character V and the people around her. She / he fought for her life, survived as best she could, I can understand her / him. And the reward at the end of V's path is disappointment. Even if they give a hint that she / he can survive for 6 months is not 100%
Of course, I wish there was an opportunity to choose a path at the end of the story and save V. She / he deserves it. Thank you.
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There are a lot of such people. It's just that rarely anyone registers on the forum to express this. It would be worth it.
Players must speak out loudly about the game they have received, otherwise they will soon start feeding us selected manure.
[...]
 
zeemanefekti

zeemanefekti

Fresh user
#9,179
Dec 31, 2020
tRYSIS3 said:
I agree 100%. The funny thing is that one ending many are considering to be canon, is literally optional, making it the least likely ending to be canon (even less likely than suicide)
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A lot of characters are not touched by endings or their fate is not really clear unless they are heavily part of the ending chosen.

It should be totally possible to write continuation to the story with certain quest lines just not being available if the character in it were killed in the ending chosen for the base game. Just introduce enough new characters and have the alive or dead characters stand on the sidelines or not, depending on what happened to them. This way only some of the endings are not canon and most could be.

Witcher has a story spanning three games, where some character either are present or not. How is it impossible for CP77?
 
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LordSareth

LordSareth

Fresh user
#9,180
Dec 31, 2020
To my suprise there are more voices about this topic that i thought it would be. Like here
When you take a peek at the comments, some of them align with our little thread.
My idea is to play as copy of V. Like in nearly every ending you have ,you end as engram with alt or can be copied into mikoshi. Then why alt or arasaka can't make copy of V without us even knowing? In new body you don't have time limit, if you want a happy ending you can help cure oryginal V or just let her die (your choice). There could be some pretty fun dynamics concerning who is the true oryginal, how your romances will copy with this kind of situation or how your friends will react to two V's running in the Night City.
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I posted this in dlc thread, Hard to say if it is possible to change the endings without some other a**pull. It would be great if it could stay consistent. If not and my V is living? i will still take it. Not sure if i will pay the full price though.
 
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