Me too, I just don't like it when I have to speculate on them in an AAA game. However, I do not like this - oddly enough it is said, since I am doing this for the first time. I don't remember such a failure with the endings, ME3 was surpassed.
A lot of characters are not touched by endings or their fate is not really clear unless they are heavily part of the ending chosen.
It should be totally possible to write continuation to the story with certain quest lines just not being available if the character in it were killed in the ending chosen for the base game. Just introduce enough new characters and have the alive or dead characters stand on the sidelines or not, depending on what happened to them. This way only some of the endings are not canon and most could be.
Witcher has a story spanning three games, where some character either are present or not. How is it impossible for CP77?
I would have liked for that to be the case, but I'm just basing my opinion on what in front of me and not hope.
V is not the main character in the game, Johnny is, and V doesn't get to have a happy ending, Johnny does.
There is no reason to believe that cdpr would change how they view V, they must have ideas in mind for other characters. That is not a reason to leave the base game as it is now though
A lot of characters are not touched by endings or their fate is not really clear unless they are heavily part of the ending chosen.
It should be totally possible to write continuation to the story with certain quest lines just not being available if the character in it were killed in the ending chosen for the base game. Just introduce enough new characters and have the alive or dead characters stand on the sidelines or not, depending on what happened to them. This way only some of the endings are not canon and most could be.
Witcher has a story spanning three games, where some character either are present or not. How is it impossible for CP77?
Me too, I just don't like it when I have to speculate on them in an AAA game. However, I do not like this - oddly enough it is said, since I am doing this for the first time. I don't remember such a failure with the endings, ME3 was surpassed.
On Skyrim forum threads were like “Empire vs Stormcloaks” “story of Alduin” “how the future war Aldmeri Dominin will look like”
Same on FO4 “Minutemen vs BoS” “Valentine is such a great character” “Shoun was a little bit forced”
TW3 “Ciri empress vs Ciri Witcher” and so on..
Characters yes. stuff like Arasaka/Militech no. It’s like choosing in the TW3 is Emphyr alive or not or Redania exists or not.
On Skyrim forum threads were like “Empire vs Stormcloaks” “story of Alduin” “how the future war Aldmeri Dominin will look like”
Same on FO4 “Minutemen vs BoS” “Valentine is such a great character” “Shoun was a little bit forced”
We will just have to see. Hopefully everyone will be here to defend their points of view laid out today once we see what CDPR actually does with the story DLCs/expansions.
It is impossible with the current level of technology to clearly "explain" how it works. Especially not for scientists but for simple players. This is a convention to be accepted. Like the existence of a time machine or hyperdrive. Instead of pretending to be Einsteins.
The convention to be accepted is to respect the background of the game your video game comes from. I don't need an explanation for the tech in cyberpunk, or any-other genre, as I don't need an explanation for magic in fantasy settings. I simply observe that CDPR takes a shortcut to avoid the obvious ending of immortality in the net.
6 months is a completely open ending for me.
There is no need to rush and kill your character. You can still do all kinds of nonsense in the city. Or go through the story, but first saved in many slots.
Then wait for the dlc with the ending and go through it for real.
Well, it's not for me. 6 months of decaying and slowly losing your mind is not an open ending. V's got a fit each time 24h revolve in game time, and it's not going to improve.
The good way to play that game is first, clean the map and second, go for the story.
And I don't believe there will be a DLC, considering the large amount of stuff lacking or cut from the game.
So. Either the arasaka ending is canon or the other two "survival" outcomes are.
Why? In the arasaka outcome, V's brain was diced and nobody mentioned even the vague possibility for a cure. In addition, johnny silverhand is gone.
On the contrary, V has the possibility of a cure mentioned in the other 2 "survival" endings. In both of these endings, the world looks more or less the same. Johnny silverhand is at alts side and given what a pain in the ass he is, I highly doubt he would not say alt what he thinks.
It would. Be relatively easy to continue the story of V from those 2 outcomes.
All engram endings (bar arasaka) could be used as a starting point as well. Although I would like to see the motivation behind V returning to the realm of the breathing...
Cdpr have shown that they are directing their attention towards multiplayer and microtransactions, but I'll be happy knowing that it will most likely be a failure
You don't get to have GTA Online's success without having a fraction of the fundamentals that made the game great in the first place
Cdpr have shown that they are directing their attention towards multiplayer and microtransactions, but I'll be happy knowing that it will most likely be a failure
You don't get to have GTA Online's success without having a fraction of the fundamentals that made the game great in the first place
You can also be in both camps: believing there will be post-credit DLC/future V content and thinking this was a poor ending.
Act 2 DLC would require Keanu to come back for voice lines unless they put in a bit about taking the pills to suppress Johnny which would be so transparent as to be insulting. Post-credit would mean not needing to bother with it at all, which makes sense.
But also I’m burnt out on playing terminal V looking for a cure. The endings set you up for content doing more of the same and there’s still not a guarantee they’d give you a cure or a new body at the end, kicking off the next wave of grumbling. Carrot on a stick, except when you think you figured it out they just hit you with the stick and it wasn’t actually a carrot but some orange styrofoam.
Also obligatory observation regarding the massive approval of the endings on Reddit/YouTube: a Venn diagram of the people that chose the romanced Panam/Judy camping trip ending and people who think the endings are perfectly hopeful is very nearly a circle.
Besides, V is an active force for good(ishness) in Night City.
Six more months means lots of lives saved and the world becoming a better place for their presence even in the story where they don't leave with the Aldecados and live a long happy life after they get a cure through whatever means they do.
Are you kidding ?
V is a mercenary. V kills, abduct steals anything or anyone for eddies.
The only thing CDPR cared to put in the game is some gigs against criminal (and NCPD is quite a criminal gang, corrupt as it is). If CDPR had played San Andreas, there would have been some missions to become a kingpin in Night City, and that would fit the setting perfectly.
V. is not a force of good, V's interests are selfish.
NC is not a better place. V has probably the highest body count of the city, but each and every gangman or criminal V offed is replaced in the instant.
Of course, you can always refuse some job because it does not suit your morale. That does not mean V is a character of goodness. That only means that your way of playing V is balanced that way.
So. Either the arasaka ending is canon or the other two "survival" outcomes are.
Why? In the arasaka outcome, V's brain was diced and nobody mentioned even the vague possibility for a cure. In addition, johnny silverhand is gone.
On the contrary, V has the possibility of a cure mentioned in the other 2 "survival" endings. In both of these endings, the world looks more or less the same. Johnny silverhand is at alts side and given what a pain in the ass he is, I highly doubt he would not say alt what he thinks.
It would. Be relatively easy to continue the story of V from those 2 outcomes.
All engram endings (bar arasaka) could be used as a starting point as well. Although I would like to see the motivation behind V returning to the realm of the breathing...
it won’t be relatively easy since going with the canon ending will make this game choice less.
Not to mention that every other than Arasaka ending is completely optional. You want to plays this game as a shooter/adventure game? Do a fast run? Sorry, no DLC for you.
You can also be in both camps: believing there will be post-credit DLC/future V content and thinking this was a poor ending.
Act 2 DLC would require Keanu to come back for voice lines unless they put in a bit about taking the pills to suppress Johnny which would be so transparent as to be insulting. Post-credit would mean not needing to bother with it at all, which makes sense.
But also I’m burnt out on playing terminal V looking for a cure. The endings set you up for content doing more of the same and there’s still not a guarantee they’d give you a cure or a new body at the end, kicking off the next wave of grumbling. Carrot on a stick, except when you think you figured it out they just hit you with the stick and it wasn’t actually a carrot but some orange styrofoam.
If you kill Dex, you can have a new story without having to deal with Johnny at all. I believe this was cut from the game as one of the trailers shows V shooting Dex
Also obligatory observation regarding the massive approval of the endings on Reddit/YouTube: a Venn diagram of the people that chose the romanced Panam/Judy camping trip ending and people who think the endings are perfectly hopeful is very nearly a circle.
You may have played them that way but that's not the way I did. I suppose the RPG elements come into play them.
The only thing CDPR cared to put in the game is some gigs against criminal (and NCPD is quite a criminal gang, corrupt as it is). If CDPR had played San Andreas, there would have been some missions to become a kingpin in Night City, and that would fit the setting perfectly.
Unless you play them as having a Pax Mod, avoiding harming civilians, and protecting the innocent when you find them in trouble.
NC is not a better place. V has probably the highest body count of the city, but each and every gangman or criminal V offed is replaced in the instant.
Of course, you can always refuse some job because it does not suit your morale. That does not mean V is a character of goodness. That only means that your way of playing V is balanced that way.
If you kill Dex, you can have a new story without having to deal with Johnny at all. I believe this was cut from the game as one of the trailers shows V shooting Dex
Mike Pondsmith said the original pitch was a story about Johnny and Alt Cunningham plus Johnny's death, so that is not going to change anything. If you kill Dex then undoubtedly you'd still do the deal for Evelyn. Either that or you killed Dex AFTER his betrayal. Either way, they made it simpler and the entire game is about the story of saving your life.
That is a fact, not just Reddit you can see it here and on Twitch also
That´s more or less what I want though. V be cured and have a happy romance life(able for all the 4 options), but NC still controlled by Arasaka. Good for V, bad for NC
You can also be in both camps: believing there will be post-credit DLC/future V content and thinking this was a poor ending.
Act 2 DLC would require Keanu to come back for voice lines unless they put in a bit about taking the pills to suppress Johnny which would be so transparent as to be insulting. Post-credit would mean not needing to bother with it at all, which makes sense.
But also I’m burnt out on playing terminal V looking for a cure. The endings set you up for content doing more of the same and there’s still not a guarantee they’d give you a cure or a new body at the end, kicking off the next wave of grumbling. Carrot on a stick, except when you think you figured it out they just hit you with the stick and it wasn’t actually a carrot but some orange styrofoam.
Also obligatory observation regarding the massive approval of the endings on Reddit/YouTube: a Venn diagram of the people that chose the romanced Panam/Judy camping trip ending and people who think the endings are perfectly hopeful is very nearly a circle.
For the vast majority of people the endings are not bad since most of them believe that they are not the endings just a cliffhanger, because what sane person would consider the end of the story to be either a suicide or slow painful death in the curse of the 6mo. And this is without mentioning current pandemic and biggest economic crisis since WW2.