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[Spoiler Alert] About the endings

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Do you want more RPGs with happy endings?

  • Yes, I miss happy endings.

    Votes: 492 42.6%
  • No, I am content with the endings currently offered.

    Votes: 115 9.9%
  • I think that the option should be available for those who want it.

    Votes: 343 29.7%
  • It’s more complicated than that.

    Votes: 206 17.8%

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mbrto

mbrto

Forum regular
#9,321
Dec 31, 2020
i feel for judy
first evelyn takes her own life,
next she falls in love with a woman that has only a few months left

poor soul
she should leave night city far behind
 
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onosendai7

onosendai7

Senior user
#9,322
Dec 31, 2020
lolic99 said:
Edition? Paper games?
I hate to sound rude, but most cyberpunk players absolutely don't give a shit about what the tabletop rules say.
This is a 3D action RPG (or maybe not an RPG anymore) based on something there, in general, it doesn't matter what.
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You not only sound rude but also ignorant. CDPR associated with Pondsmith for this game. They could use the name and background Pondsmith brings to life since 1990's. The last edition of Cyberpunk is not called RED for nothing. Both CDPR and Talsorian (Pondsmith's company) benefit from that video game.
What most of player know or not is not the point. The point is that CDPR betray the very stuff they built the game on, and they did advertise that the video game would be under the P&P game influence, baiting players like me in buying it.
 
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Simuxas

Simuxas

Senior user
#9,323
Dec 31, 2020
Just saw youtube video promotion. "Witcher 3 to Cyberpunk 2077 how far did they come"
I think my eyes rolled over so much i saw my head from inside.
 
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onosendai7

onosendai7

Senior user
#9,324
Dec 31, 2020
Galerion90 said:
I mean you can head canon whatever you want. We all do here anyway but it doesn't change that in the end it puts you in the exact same spot as the Nomad/Glory ending with 6 months to live.
Except you didn't get soul killed and none of "your" buddies died.
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Of course.
But since the person I'm replying to seems to believe Arasaka is your best friend for life and V. must believe and trust them...
 
lolic99

lolic99

Forum regular
#9,325
Dec 31, 2020
Barsenthor said:
Everything points now that this was truly how the game was meant to end, with 6 mo maybe more time and “that’s all folks”.

If people are counting on this there are two roads:
They either go Bethesda and release the Broken steel dlc that will write the next chapter but remember that this was 3rd dlc for FO3
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There is no point in destroying something.
The final in FO3 was originally closed and rewritten. In Cyberpunk, ending is open. If V finds the cure behind the next corner in the trash can, it will be strange, but it will not break the original game in any way. You just need to correctly arrange and justify it.

Happy New Year!
 
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onosendai7

onosendai7

Senior user
#9,326
Dec 31, 2020
I_Willenbrock_I said:
To comment on the mass effect 3 ending.

Bioware never recovered from sticking to their principles.

Mass effect 3s endings (directors cut) made everything perfectly clear. Sheppard might survive if your accumulated points were high enough.

People however were pissed off by the fact that Shepard ruined the galaxy nonetheless and that it was a literal choice at the end.

People were not really pissed off by Shepard going belly up, because it was the end of a trilogy. They were pissed of by star child and it's idiotic reasoning before you could choose your favorite shit sandwich.

In the end, Shepard was successful. V however, wasn't.
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At least, CDPR is better than Bioware : only one game to crash the whole story :)
 
I_Willenbrock_I

I_Willenbrock_I

Senior user
#9,327
Dec 31, 2020
lolic99 said:
There is no point in destroying something.
The final in FO3 was originally closed and rewritten. In Cyberpunk, ending is open. If V finds the cure behind the next corner in the trash can, it will be strange, but it will not break the original game in any way. You just need to correctly arrange and justify it.

Happy New Year!
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As long as CDPR want to...
 
Liquidcyberpunk

Liquidcyberpunk

Fresh user
#9,328
Dec 31, 2020
What would V dream of? When V returns to his/her apartment to sleep what types of dreams would you like to see? Would unlocking certain types of dreams depending on your actions interest you?
 
lolic99

lolic99

Forum regular
#9,329
Dec 31, 2020
onosendai7 said:
You not only sound rude but also ignorant. CDPR associated with Pondsmith for this game. They could use the name and background Pondsmith brings to life since 1990's. The laste edition of Cyberpunk is not called RED for nothing. Both CDPR and Talsorian (Pondsmith's company) benefit from that video game.
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You did not understand. For most players, it doesn't matter who this person is Pondsmith, at all.
For most, it's just a 3D action game. And the players know only those rules and conventions that are in the game itself. What are the third-party conventions to them "to the lantern".
 
onosendai7

onosendai7

Senior user
#9,330
Dec 31, 2020
Best wishes for 2021, all.
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lolic99 said:
You did not understand. For most players, it doesn't matter who this person is Pondsmith, at all.
For most, it's just a 3D action game. And the players know only those rules and conventions that are in the game itself. What are the third-party conventions to them "to the lantern".
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I perfectly understood what you 're pointing at. You do not understand what I'm saying : CDPR sold that game using Pondsmith's game and reputation. They lied. And that's also why that story is disappointing to me : they respect neither the background nor the genre.
 
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cyths

Forum regular
#9,331
Dec 31, 2020
Regarding the state of the whole game, they also didn't respect gamers.
 
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onosendai7

onosendai7

Senior user
#9,332
Dec 31, 2020
cyths said:
Regarding the state of the whole game, they also didn't respect gamers.
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That is quite obvious.
But considering the huge amount of positive reviews, I would say they rightly do so...
 
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cyths

Forum regular
#9,333
Dec 31, 2020
Bleh, reviews. Gave up reading them over 20 years ago when the first paid reviews in magazines appeard.
 
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I_Willenbrock_I

I_Willenbrock_I

Senior user
#9,334
Dec 31, 2020
onosendai7 said:
That is quite obvious.
But considering the huge amount of positive reviews, I would say they rightly do so...
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What AAA-game does not get a positive review?
 
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zeemanefekti

zeemanefekti

Fresh user
#9,335
Dec 31, 2020
onosendai7 said:
Best wishes for 2021, all.
Post automatically merged: Dec 31, 2020


I perfectly understood what you 're pointing at. You do not understand what I'm saying : CDPR sold that game using Pondsmith's game and reputation. They lied. And that's also why that story is disappointing to me : they respect neither the background nor the genre.
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Witcher was a game based on an already existing IP that CDPR brought to life in a new medium and with a licence. It probably brough a LOT of people into the witcher mythos and increased book sales by I don't even know how much. If the relationship with the original author had been better, CDPR would have probably marketed the original IP a lot more. The netflix adaptation would have never happened without CDPR.

Pondsmith did not make the same mistake: he most likely saw this as an opportunity to market his own product and Talsorian Games (owner of cyberpunk IP) has been really careful not to add the 2020 corebook into any online platforms before, even though the hype has been incredible. Once the dust settles and CDPR hopefully fix the game enough, it should also affect positively to the cyberpunk2020 and cyperbunk RED sales.

If Pondsmith does not himself say anything against the endings, I have no idea how CP77 "does not respect the background nor the genre"?
 
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I_Willenbrock_I

I_Willenbrock_I

Senior user
#9,336
Dec 31, 2020
Regarding respect.

If the background and cyberpunk lore is respected or not it up to mike pondsmith

The cyberpunk Genre is partially respected and partially driven beyond the extreme. The genre always values the protagonists though.

The player is not respected in many cases. We ALL are V and we get a game over at the end (as of today).
 
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stndn

stndn

Forum regular
#9,337
Dec 31, 2020
tRYSIS3 said:
I don't need to see every death to believe it, the suicide happened offscreen and so did the other deaths
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Except we don't know that for sure (other deaths). You CANNOT concretely prove or deny it.
 
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onosendai7

onosendai7

Senior user
#9,338
Dec 31, 2020
zeemanefekti said:
Witcher was a game based on an already existing IP that CDPR brought to life in a new medium and with a licence. It probably brough a LOT of people into the witcher mythos and increased book sales by I don't even know how much. If the relationship with the original author had been better, CDPR would have probably marketed the original IP a lot more. The netflix adaptation would have never happened without CDPR.

Pondsmith did not make the same mistake: he most likely saw this as an opportunity to market his own product and Talsorian Games (owner of cyberpunk IP) has been really careful not to add the 2020 corebook into any online platforms before, even though the hype has been incredible. Once the dust settles and CDPR hopefully fix the game enough, it should also affect positively to the cyberpunk2020 and cyperbunk RED sales.
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Cyberpunk RED is available since November.
Of course there is a partnership between Talsorian or CDPR. I do not deny that. Each is taking profit of the other. I have no problem with that.

zeemanefekti said:
If Pondsmith does not himself say anything against the endings, I have no idea how CP77 "does not respect the background nor the genre"?
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Pondsmith will say nothing against the video game because it is not in his interest (and there may be also legal worries). His goal is to sell the 4th edition of the game. CDPR makes his marketing campaign indirectly for his P&P game. And the game IS a very good visual adaptation. So, it's all the best for him.
It does not respect the background. For instance, Alt is not the cold bitch CDPR shows us. Arasaka would never care the slightest about a dying edgerunner...
It does not respect the genre : denying the immortality in the matrix is an heresy. Cyberpunk is about escaping the flesh and how technology changes the world and the relation to humanity (we instead got some fortune telling tricks -sooo technological). Cyberpunk is not about bad endings or poorly written tricks.
 
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SaulTuk

SaulTuk

Senior user
#9,339
Dec 31, 2020
Someone's alive still here?)
 
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cyths

Forum regular
#9,340
Dec 31, 2020
Yep :D
 
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