[Spoiler Alert] About the endings

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Do you want more RPGs with happy endings?


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More i think of CP77 world and plot, the less sense they have and the better i feel. Because i can hardly believe in world so torn apart with inconsistences, contradictions and outright logic holes. And if the world doesn't form itself in working logic system, i can't immerse myself in it.
One of many examples - practically non-existent legal system of NC. Funny, how many people criticize dumb AI of NCPD in CP77 - it's not only bug, it's a feature! My impression is that NC has no consistent and working legal system. I mean, you can openly attack corpo HQ, kill bunch of their employee and live in NC withour any fear of, i dunno, legal persecution for the crimes you've commited. There are many examples of that - Johny, Rogue and others raid on Arasaka in 2013 is one of them. The only possible explanation is that the corps are oficially souvereign states, like Vatican. And if you break into their territory, kill bunch of their men and manage to exfiltrate in one piece, corp will not sue you and police will not bother you. But that doesn't make sense, because in the world of indisputed corporate reign corps should have MORE rights, than regular citizens, not LESS! And even if you manage to get away from corps territory after you attacked them, they will identify you and sue you, and brave merc will be hunted not only by corporate own enforcers, but also by NCPD. But that doesn't work that way, neither in CP77, neither in PnP. That's why i hardly believe in such a world, don't immerse into it, which ease my pain from fucked up endings.
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Yeah, also the NC is the ONLY center of science and high-tech in America, other cities got only casino and motels, i guess)
Much to say about it.
When you think NCPD, think the Detroit Police Department of Robocop. Underfunded, understaffed, exhausted, with their lives on the line, the policemen are not up to the job, with violence and criminality skyrocketing. So, some neighborhoods are rather well patrolled, and others are simply forsaken. The system is also corrupt, the badges are somewhat willing to get a bit more €bucks.
Corporate offices are under the protection of extraterritoriality, just as an embassy is nowadays. The police has no right to intervene in a Corp main office unless the government (DoJ) decide so. Yep, Corps are the equal of countries (and sometimes are even better).
The Silverhand event you refer too is not a terrorist act but a rescue mission to recover a NC citizen from a foreign territory where she was detained against her will. Besides, no one in NC would shed a single tear over Arasaka. The NCPD does not care, not its jurisdiction, and Arasaka has nothing to gain in pursuing Johnny and friends. One because Thompson has every evidence of Arasaka crimes and Two because Johnny is a worldwide star and on a word of him, some worldwide riots may erupt against Arasaka.
Sorry, but this background and lore just hold.
 
What I would like to say, every time a fixer calls me:

"Dear Sir or Madam, please don't call this number unless you have a mission for me which puts me in contact with a genius brain surgeon or the world's best biotech scientists. Kthxbye!"
Fixers are helpless too, they suffered from CDPR themselves)
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Much to say about it.
When you think NCPD, think the Detroit Police Department of Robocop. Underfunded, understaffed, exhausted, with their lives on the line, the policemen are not up to the job, with violence and criminality skyrocketing. So, some neighborhoods are rather well patrolled, and others are simply forsaken. The system is also corrupt, the badges are somewhat willing to get a bit more €bucks.
Corporate offices are under the protection of extraterritoriality, just as an embassy is nowadays. The police has no right to intervene in a Corp main office unless the government (DoJ) decide so. Yep, Corps are the equal of countries (and sometimes are even better).
The Silverhand event you refer too is not a terrorist act but a rescue mission to recover a NC citizen from a foreign territory where she was detained against her will. Besides, no one in NC would shed a single tear over Arasaka. The NCPD does not care, not its jurisdiction, and Arasaka has nothing to gain in pursuing Johnny and friends. One because Thompson has every evidence of Arasaka crimes and Two because Johnny is a worldwide star and on a word of him, some worldwide riots may erupt against Arasaka.
Sorry, but this background and lore just hold.
Okay, if the corps territory are foreign land for NCPD, then i agree.
 
Folks around here don't belive Aldecado can possibly have contacts with people having access to advanced tech that mught heal V.
If that was the only ending V had, sure I wouldn't have trouble finding the believable. Putting it in context with the other endings, especially the Arasaka one, what I find hard to believe is that Panam knows more and/or has better contacts than Hanako and Hellman.

I guess you could make the case those two are just messing with V and intentionally holding back treatments that would work but I didn't get that impression, the game tried to make them seem rather genuine in their attempts to save V. Unless I missed something in which case feel free to explain.
 
And the game shows Alt, Vik, Helman and others are saying exactly the contrary.
Mitsy says nothing about a live long and prosper ending.
Alt says nothing about the cure, she only conducts diagnostics. She's not a medical bot, she does not know whether there is a cure or not. For the past 50 years, she has been in the network behind a firewall.
Helman is not talking about curing cancer, but about what to do with the chip. Alt has already solved this problem.
Vik does not say that there is no cure, he, on the contrary, tells V to look for a solution to the problem.
It's still an open ending.
 
Check my last quote, he says something pretty close to it

Check, i was a bit slow ;) You're right, close to it.

The promise Cyberpunk 2077 needs to live up to is the promise that the player can control their fate in a broken and dystopic system. With Covid-19, income inequality, and politics that feel broken, it’s an escape that has a lot of appeal

In a world where people are feeling increasingly powerless, Pondsmith sees the message of hope inherent in the cyberpunk genre. “The thing that I love about cyberpunk inherently is that it's about paying attention, and dealing with things. If you use the technology and your knowledge right, you can make it better. You can’t just let the boostergangs roll over your community, or you’re going to let a microtech tear down your apartment building to put up a microwave tower,” he says.
 
However, from the descriptions I see it sounds like Johnny gets redemption and finally comes to terms with what he's lost.
Question I would have though, is it genuine growth as a person for Johnny or is it because he finds himself in a different body, with different hormones and brain chemistry that is changing him and the way he thinks and feels. Especially if V is female.
 
If that was the only ending V had, sure I wouldn't have trouble finding the believable. Putting it in context with the other endings, especially the Arasaka one, what I find hard to believe is that Panam knows more and/or has better contacts than Hanako and Hellman.

I guess you could make the case those two are just messing with V and intentionally holding back treatments that would work but I didn't get that impression, the game tried to make them seem rather genuine in their attempts to save V. Unless I missed something in which case feel free to explain.
Nah, we have every reason to doubt the nomads might know the people who might help. They might, in theory, but to make this really believable CDPR should shed some more light. For example, mentioned some people or organizations, who definitely can help, like Biotechica. I mean, establish some lore throughout main plot, so in the end we, players, say like "Right, that guys can actually help, it is a common knowledge".
 
The problem of copy V is well shown in Gunnm Last Order, when you see than even a perfect copy of Gally isn't the same person a Gally (and it's even more see-able as the original survive).
 
In my dreams I hope they come out with some kind of communicate like ...
"Dear players, Due to the bugs in Cyberpunk we realized nobody was able to trigger the 8th ending, therefore the patch 1.7 is fixing this issue, be patient" :p
even if there wasn't an 8th ending in the beginning, this would be an elegant way to patch one in without admitting that all the other endings were shit.
 
Just came across this, from an interview that came out back in late 2019

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