[Spoiler Alert] About the endings

[Chibako_NuggetShib]

It's possible that the happy ending we been waiting for could be in DLC, expansion or something else, heck, maybe even multiplayer. I will try imagine something and laid it out here.
1. Johnny joined Alt, we get to know what happened with engram that Alt consumed, they might all stayed in a virtual space city inside Alt's cyberworld, Johny might reach out to help with V, trying to get V into new body, or cure V
2. We got expansion about what will happen after ending, depending on the ending we got, If V goes to Crystal place, we might get to do something there, and after we are done, Mr.Blue eyes might offered something as a reward, maybe a way to stay alive. If we decided to go with Panam, we might get in contact with another person, or Mr.Blue eyes will offers help just like the other path, this might goes the same way with Arasaka ending where you returned to earth, and If we decided to become engram inside Arasaka's Mikoshi, maybe someone will decided to break us out and out us into a new body.
3.Possible Multiplayer story might be that V got transferred into a new body, maybe by the help of Mr. Blue eyes. We get to create our character again and do Multiplayer stuffs.

People seems to forgot about Mr. Blue eyes. He seems like Cyberpunk's Gman. Might be the guy that been pulling stringsthe whole time.

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We know, we feel the world is heavy and dark. But we don't have one path leading to one ending. If we have multiple endings, you really think all of them should be dark and hopeless?
Would having one nice ending where V lives hurt the story so bad? I highly doubt it.
And the statement that "world is dark so endings should be dark as well" is complete and utter garbage.
Christoper Nolans Dark Knight trilogy was dark, but it had a nice ending.
Lord of The Rings is dark and gritty world, but also has a happy ending.
Heck even Dark Souls 3 had one uplifting ending.

All ending aren't hopeless at all, it makes you feel that way but they are all cliffhangers really, maybe V might survive in all endings (except the suicide one) but we don't know that yet. If not, dying as an AfterLife legend doesn't sounds bad at all.
If you are determined that your character's death = bad, then it's totally illogical.
Example, red dead 2. Death means a lot, awesome story driving force.

 

[Simuxas]

It's possible that the happy ending we been waiting for could be in DLC, expansion or something else, heck, maybe even multiplayer. I will try imagine something and laid it out here.
1. Johnny joined Alt, we get to know what happened with engram that Alt consumed, they might all stayed in a virtual space city inside Alt's cyberworld, Johny might reach out to help with V, trying to get V into new body, or cure V
2. We got expansion about what will happen after ending, depending on the ending we got, If V goes to Crystal place, we might get to do something there, and after we are done, Mr.Blue eyes might offered something as a reward, maybe a way to stay alive. If we decided to go with Panam, we might get in contact with another person, or Mr.Blue eyes will offers help just like the other path, this might goes the same way with Arasaka ending where you returned to earth, and If we decided to become engram inside Arasaka's Mikoshi, maybe someone will decided to break us out and out us into a new body.
3.Possible Multiplayer story might be that V got transferred into a new body, maybe by the help of Mr. Blue eyes. We get to create our character again and do Multiplayer stuffs.

People seems to forgot about Mr. Blue eyes. He seems like Cyberpunk's Gman. Might be the guy that been pulling stringsthe whole time.

We already tried to think of what can DLC could be. Most possible solution is additional happy ending with additional side missions that leads us to it. Or extension on some other endings like Aldecado one, but that leaves with a lot of iffy situations.
Because right now, any other DLC seems really pointless.
Mid game sidequest? Already racing with time to save ourselves, so would make no sense.
A story of V before all of this? For what, more grim and dark story with knowing where it all goes.
Side character story? That would not be even close to V's story and be completely pointless.

 

[revu_]

Mr. blue eyes is kinda interesting, he gives me hope for a new dlc, but i dont know how he would help or hes just gonna stand there

 

[Cologan]

We already tried to think of what can DLC could be. Most possible solution is additional happy ending with additional side missions that leads us to it. Or extension on some other endings like Aldecado one, but that leaves with a lot of iffy situations.
Because right now, any other DLC seems really pointless.
Mid game sidequest? Already racing with time to save ourselves, so would make no sense.
A story of V before all of this? For what, more grim and dark story with knowing where it all goes.
Side character story? That would not be even close to V's story and be completely pointless.

6 months to live would be enough time to play the game, yet have urgency to continue the main quest. seems like a no-brainer

 

[Retro-_-]

We know, we feel the world is heavy and dark. But we don't have one path leading to one ending. If we have multiple endings, you really think all of them should be dark and hopeless?
Would having one nice ending where V lives hurt the story so bad? I highly doubt it.
And the statement that "world is dark so endings should be dark as well" is complete and utter garbage.
Christoper Nolans Dark Knight trilogy was dark, but it had a nice ending.
Lord of The Rings is dark and gritty world, but also has a happy ending.
Heck even Dark Souls 3 had one uplifiting ending.

It is a dark, superficial, desensitised world and that is part of the attraction. But the journey we take with V, the bonds we make along the way and V coming to terms with his impending death, all add light and depth to that world. That almost feels like the general feeling of the story that the whole is not necessarily just a sum of its parts. On a more direct note, why go to all the effort of such rich characters and take us on a very well written journey, if we never get to see V and friends again? I could understand this if we were at the final DLC, but not 30 hours into a game.

Johnny was a great character and a fantastic boost for the game and CDPR having Keannu on board. But he forms more of a storytelling mechanism. We have been shown much of Johnny's life and experiences, whereas we have lived V's life and experiences. I would be more inclined to take a V in a different body over playing as Johnny because ultimately it would be V we have dragged through the game, a couple of steps ahead of death.

DLCs are nice and shiny, but as you say they seem a little pointless at present. I think we could do with the extension of the main story, ideally through the endings, so we can get some closure or at least some clarity. Give us the feeling that our decisions have maybe made a meaningful impact and let us enjoy them.

Really, it is entirely up to CDPR what they do with the game in response to this and there wouldn't be much the community could do, but you would like to think that they see what they have created and understand the predicament and disappointment of the people.

 

[Simuxas]

It's possible that the happy ending we been waiting for could be in DLC, expansion or something else, heck, maybe even multiplayer. I will try imagine something and laid it out here.
1. Johnny joined Alt, we get to know what happened with engram that Alt consumed, they might all stayed in a virtual space city inside Alt's cyberworld, Johny might reach out to help with V, trying to get V into new body, or cure V
2. We got expansion about what will happen after ending, depending on the ending we got, If V goes to Crystal place, we might get to do something there, and after we are done, Mr.Blue eyes might offered something as a reward, maybe a way to stay alive. If we decided to go with Panam, we might get in contact with another person, or Mr.Blue eyes will offers help just like the other path, this might goes the same way with Arasaka ending where you returned to earth, and If we decided to become engram inside Arasaka's Mikoshi, maybe someone will decided to break us out and out us into a new body.
3.Possible Multiplayer story might be that V got transferred into a new body, maybe by the help of Mr. Blue eyes. We get to create our character again and do Multiplayer stuffs.

People seems to forgot about Mr. Blue eyes. He seems like Cyberpunk's Gman. Might be the guy that been pulling stringsthe whole time.

Post automatically merged: Dec 16, 2020

All ending aren't hopeless at all, it makes you feel that way but they are all cliffhangers really, maybe V might survive in all endings (except the suicide one) but we don't know that yet. If not, dying as an AfterLife legend doesn't sounds bad at all.
If you are determined that your character's death = bad, then it's totally illogical.
Example, red dead 2. Death means a lot, awesome story driving force.

But in RDR2 you don't roleplay. You play as completely different character and it is completely different story about different goals.
Here you just die, doesn't matter how you roleplay it, you die in either ending. And V never wanted to be legend, Jackie did.

 

[Nikola_Nesic]

3.Possible Multiplayer story might be that V got transferred into a new body, maybe by the help of Mr. Blue eyes. We get to create our character again and do Multiplayer stuffs.

No sorry, this is stupid to force people in to Multiplayer just so they can see Happy ending for a singleplayer game is really really bad, if people don't care about Multiplayer in anyway, forcing them to play it will be more hassle and trouble than fun.

 

[Retro-_-]

6 months to live would be enough time to play the game, yet have urgency to continue the main quest. seems like a no-brainer

Feels like the whole story covers weeks if you play through, so it is a bit weird that suddenly 6 months seems terminal and CDPR thought it pointless to continue the story beyond that.

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But in RDR2 you don't roleplay. You play as completely different character and it is completely different story about different goals.
Here you just die, doesn't matter how you roleplay it, you die in either ending. And V never wanted to be legend, Jackie did.

You get the sense V was more for his life meaning something and not just being another night city stat. Being a legend, yeah would be nice, but being alive and free, that's more like what we were playing towards.

 

[Nikola_Nesic]

Again, if story is set in some setting it don't mean that main character must die or can't have happy ending, this is like saying any World War 2 movie can't have happy ending, it is just stupid to look it like that.

 

[Retro-_-]

Again, if story is set in some setting it don't mean that main character must die or can't have happy ending, this is like saying any World War 2 movie can't have happy ending, it is just stupid to look it like that.

Comes full circle again to CP2077 with "you can't save the world, only yourself". Really, the only thing I saved was lots of games at main missions, so I could go back and at least experience some of the joy and interactions V had.

 

[Simuxas]

Still got me thinking, they mentioned with DLC comes more clothing options, car customization, new weapons and cars. Okay.
But why, what's the point? Continiously play game in act2, constantly having those relic glitches, coughing up blood, getting annoyed by Johnny and by the end you know V still gonna die. I don't get it.

 

[Loud.mp3]

Mr. blue eyes is kinda interesting, he gives me hope for a new dlc, but i dont know how he would help or hes just gonna stand there

I had this guy in my ending where he gives me this mission in the casino in space... where I die, I saw him today in another ending saying interesting things, here he is ... and also this whole ending was very interesting giving hope for a DLC, (conversation starting at 7:02:59)

 

[Chibako_NuggetShib]

But in RDR2 you don't roleplay. You play as completely different character and it is completely different story about different goals.
Here you just die, doesn't matter how you roleplay it, you die in either ending. And V never wanted to be legend, Jackie did.

You are wrong saying V doesn't want to be a legend.

 

[Cologan]

Feels like the whole story covers weeks if you play through, so it is a bit weird that suddenly 6 months seems terminal and CDPR thought it pointless to continue the story beyond that.

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You get the sense V was more for his life meaning something and not just being another night city stat. Being a legend, yeah would be nice, but being alive and free, that's more like what we were playing towards.

for me the story felt like a week at best. There are cutscenes that supposedly include days of time past, but you dont play those so that just doesnt count. The main plot made me rush it in hopes i get a better outcome from getting rid of Johnny asap. Boy i was suprised to learn the End is really the End, no more playing past that point.

 

[Simuxas]

Why is it,


Yes I had him in my ending where he gives me this mission in the casino in space... where I die, I saw him today in another ending saying interesting things, here he is ... and also this whole ending was very interesting giving hope for a DLC

Could be a possible DLC where they find you a new compatible body, let's you create new character, and go back to the city. Then again, like Panam ending extension, this is can full of worms kinda situation.

 

[Chibako_NuggetShib]

Why is it,


Yes I had him in my ending where he gives me this mission in the casino in space... where I die, I saw him today in another ending saying interesting things, here he is ... and also this whole ending was very interesting giving hope for a DLC, (conversation starting at 7:02:59)

That's Hellman, not Mr. Blue eyes

 

[Simuxas]

You are wrong saying V doesn't want to be a legend.

V doesn't, never says it, Jackie always says it. Only at part where Dex asks, you get false sense of choice of how you wanna end up " Blaze of glory or fade away". Doesn't matter what you choose, it changes nothing. Wish we could, cuz what's the point of being a legend in Afterlife? Only these people would know you, and that is about it, city would forget you.
Not everybody want's to go out guns blazing. Some just wanna get through all that crap and go back to life before all of that.

And in RDR2 you know Arthur is dying and there is nothing you can do, but accept it, so story goes about redemption. While in CP2077 game gives you that false sense that you can save yourself but nope, ain't giving that either. There is no redemption story, no "doing it for the greater godd", doing to save someone, you just try to save V, but can't even do that. Ruins game experience, ruins multiple playthroughs, ruins DLC options.

 

[Loud.mp3]

That's Hellman, not Mr. Blue eyes

Yes I first thought it was the same, sorry for confusing, but still interesting to see this guy in another other ending

 

[Retro-_-]

Still got me thinking, they mentioned with DLC comes more clothing options, car customization, new weapons and cars. Okay.
But why, what's the point? Continiously play game in act2, constantly having those relic glitches, coughing up blood, getting annoyed by Johnny and by the end you know V still gonna die. I don't get it.

Exactly, there is another large thread on the forum where the fixes for TW3 are laid out in respect that CDPR will sort the game and won't abandon us. But my point there, as I commented, is what happens then when the game is running better and people are happy, only to play through and come to the same disappointment and annoyance as a lot of people over what the game could have been.

Tinkering for the next 12 months fixing every possible bug, regardless of how insignificant and producing stacks of customization feels like a bit of a band-aid on a broken leg. You will just have a lovely, colourful, highly customisable world with the same pointless decisions, following the same story to a questionable ending. I'm not saying don't fix bugs or add customisation, just that it needs to be balanced with addressing the flaws of the endings/romances etc. Because in all honesty, I probably won't still be here in 6 months playing bug free waiting for better endings of continuation, and I don't know how much enthusiasm I would have to return.

 

[Enerccio]

Problem is, it is stated later that Arasaka goes bankrupt and they have to shut down mikoshi program. And giving yourself into the hands of the devil, would not call happy ending at all.

where is it stated?