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[Spoiler Alert] About the endings

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Do you want more RPGs with happy endings?

  • Yes, I miss happy endings.

    Votes: 503 42.1%
  • No, I am content with the endings currently offered.

    Votes: 122 10.2%
  • I think that the option should be available for those who want it.

    Votes: 353 29.5%
  • It’s more complicated than that.

    Votes: 217 18.2%

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SaulTuk

SaulTuk

Senior user
#11,801
Jan 5, 2021
WingedArchon said:
From my point of view, a hobo merc that comes traveling from the far south with a certain hovering machine as added incentive to get what I want from the city mercs :LOL:
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But, you know, alive hobo merc)
 
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Simuxas

Simuxas

Senior user
#11,802
Jan 5, 2021
SaulTuk said:
Even shizophrenic alco- and narco-addict detective from Disco Elsysium had a meaningful choices and closure)
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onosendai7

onosendai7

Senior user
#11,803
Jan 5, 2021
I_Willenbrock_I said:
I personally think that it's mostly the epilogue that sucks... Together with an off pacing in act 2.
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I never said otherwise. The ending suck because of that 6 month condemnation.
The rest is rather well done, but the crappy endings finally leave a bad taste of the whole game.
 
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I_Willenbrock_I

I_Willenbrock_I

Senior user
#11,804
Jan 5, 2021
MrBilL61 said:
So also in current state of the story simple "To be continued..." should be sufficient enough to buy some time for devs and calm the community
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Yeah. That's a possibility.

I would even touch the game again if they manage to make it playable on Xbox.
But since I had to delete all my characters, re-download the game several times and still did not get working cyberware, I will only touch the game again if they fix the epilogue and give me my next gen upgrade.
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onosendai7 said:
I never said otherwise. The ending suck because of that 6 month condemnation.
The rest is rather well done, but the crappy endings finally leave a bad taste of the whole game.
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It's astonishing how one crappy decision can ruin a otherwise good story.
 
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WingedArchon

WingedArchon

Forum regular
#11,805
Jan 5, 2021
MrBilL61 said:
So also in current state of the story simple "To be continued..." should be sufficient enough to buy some time for devs and calm the community
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If nothing else it would show that stuff is yet to come in an act where we are asking for it (amongst others). so it would definately help in easing some tension because it gives us some validation... IF they deliver.

But if I recall there were also some sounds for other content that was desired, such as have an open world that can be explored without immediately having the doomsday clock in our heads.
So the "to be continued" is not the be all end all I'd reckon.
 
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Hexagon-Sun

Hexagon-Sun

Forum regular
#11,806
Jan 5, 2021
SaulTuk said:
Even shizophrenic alco- and narco-addict detective from Disco Elsysium had a meaningful choices and closure)
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You mean hobo cop.
 
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lolic99

lolic99

Forum regular
#11,807
Jan 5, 2021
onosendai7 said:
And the diagnostic is : you're dying. There i no cure.
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We're back to the beginning. The diagnosis is as follows. Not a word about the fact that there is no cure.
onosendai7 said:
You don't know that. You cannot be sure of that. It's only your opinion about it and nothing more.
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Of course. As well as yours. Why, then, even refer to Alt, if her knowledge in this matter is extremely dubious and is not confirmed by anything.
onosendai7 said:
Yep, it's and auto immune disease and the outcome is death. Different cause, same result.
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Without treatment, yes. But the bottom line is that Helman's words are no longer worth anything if you don't choose Arasaka.
onosendai7 said:
Well, I also said times and times again that CDPR writing sucks. I'm not the game-master here, CDPR is. So, you know who you should blame for that.
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I have already offered my own version of the scenario for dlc. V fucks a nomad with AIDS and the problem is solved. What's worse than the original plot? It seems at the same level.
 
Barsenthor

Barsenthor

Senior user
#11,808
Jan 5, 2021
I_Willenbrock_I said:
I humbly disagree.
The sword hanging over V shaped the character in an interesting way. Suddenly, big money and fame were secondary and V started to concentrate on what is important.
Characters facing certain death are able to do astonishing things. Elysium come to my mind.
Another example of the protagonist dying, while achieving something greater.

Certain death could have strengthened V in the long term.

It's off course up to how you play the character within the limitations of the game.
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Shaping but in the way that s/he is preoccupied with survival. There is not other agenda.
They didn’t even bother making one.
From the backstory you can force some elements like anti corpo stance, but did the game make this a focal/major point? Nope.

In elysium the premise of the movie was from very beginning the inequality.
Here? Abyss.

There is even a problem because this game was about character (V survival) and ends up in the last second as a adventure story where it’s about the world.
Did it even make this a point? Nope, it practically comes out of nowhere.

People might not even get this but they sense that story is completely illogical.
This shatteres the whole narrative and trigger chain reaction blowing story with it, and since it’s the story driven game game it’s self.
 
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MandyZGaming

MandyZGaming

Forum regular
#11,809
Jan 5, 2021
I happily quote it once more:

I just want, what seemingly Pondsmith had in mind from the get go and that is saving myself (V) and my loved ones(Judy and River - Panam and Kerry for others). That´s practically all i ask for. Sure still many people would die (Jackie, Evelyn, etc.), but at least that would make up for it. It is the reason worth it all.

What is wrong with wanting something, that should´ve obviously been there anyways and supposedly the main task!

And if I don´t beat the main task in any game, it´s game over and i failed!!! And Pondsmith himself said that this is the main task! So there´s no beating this game as of current!
 
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WingedArchon

WingedArchon

Forum regular
#11,810
Jan 5, 2021
SaulTuk said:
But, you know, alive hobo merc)
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How do you say.. naturally
 
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arcsirc

arcsirc

Forum regular
#11,811
Jan 5, 2021
Hexagon-Sun said:
You mean hobo cop.
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god that game was such a joy to play.
 
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Hexagon-Sun

Hexagon-Sun

Forum regular
#11,812
Jan 5, 2021
MandyZGaming said:
I happily quote it once more:

I just want, what seemingly Pondsmith had in mind from the get go and that is saving myself (V) and my loved ones(Judy and River - Panam and Kerry for others). That´s practically all i ask for. Sure still many people would die (Jackie, Evelyn, etc.), but at least that would make up for it. It is the reason worth it all.

What is wrong with wanting something, that should´ve obviously been there anyways and supposedly the main task!

And if I don´t beat the main task in any game, it´s game over and i failed!!! And Pondsmith himself said that this is the main task! So there´s no beating this game as of current!
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Simply put: I play games to win.
 
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SaulTuk

SaulTuk

Senior user
#11,813
Jan 5, 2021
Hexagon-Sun said:
You mean hobo cop.
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That's another point — your Harry can be very different from mine or that guy's.
Vampire: The Masquerade got different lines for each vampire clan and roleplay approach.
CP77... you know.
 
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I_Willenbrock_I

I_Willenbrock_I

Senior user
#11,814
Jan 5, 2021
If the last leak was true, then lots of endgame and epilogue content was cut because of bugs.

Maybe the epilogue was able to value player agency? The other games made by the studio were pretty good at this.

This brings up the question how the other story arcs and 2 (4) additional endings could have been. Large underground areas sounds like voodoo-boys content....
 
Draconifors

Draconifors

Moderator
#11,815
Jan 5, 2021
I_Willenbrock_I said:
If the last leak was true
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It wasn't. Just linking that in this thread as well.
 
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I_Willenbrock_I

I_Willenbrock_I

Senior user
#11,816
Jan 5, 2021
Hexagon-Sun said:
Simply put: I play games to win.
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Yeah. To loosely paraphrase mike pondsmith: "nobody likes to be a loser in an rpg."

This game over screen was insulting. I went through hell with V and all I got was death. Not even a lousy t-shirt. I personally felt no emotional relief after the game ended.
 
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Kikinho

Kikinho

Senior user
#11,817
Jan 5, 2021
andrezzyn said:
I think the best thing I can do is forget about the game and wait to see what will happen, about what the DLCs and expansions will be.
If the game really doesn't have anything else after the finals, all I can do is delete the game and put it on my list of the worst games in the world.
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I have the same plan. Back to Tamriel with me until significant changes come to the game. And if they don't.... well hopefully I will be disengaged enough from this game not to care.
 
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I_Willenbrock_I

I_Willenbrock_I

Senior user
#11,818
Jan 5, 2021
Draconifors said:
It wasn't. Just linking that in this thread as well.
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Thanks for the clarification.

Can I still post here when I refund the game?
 
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Kikinho

Kikinho

Senior user
#11,819
Jan 5, 2021
MrBilL61 said:
So also in current state of the story simple "To be continued..." should be sufficient enough to buy some time for devs and calm the community
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Thing is, in my opinion releasing an RPG that doesn't intend to offer a proper conclusion in the main game is just bad design. Why should I have to pay extra to see my character survive?
In the witcher the expansions built on top of the already concluded story. It just went the extra mile so to speak.
 
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I_Willenbrock_I

I_Willenbrock_I

Senior user
#11,820
Jan 5, 2021
Kikinho said:
Thing is, in my opinion releasing an RPG that doesn't intend to offer a proper conclusion in the main game is just bad design. Why should I have to pay extra to see my character survive?
In the witcher the expansions built on top of the already concluded story. It just went the extra mile so to speak.
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I would consider this more being a bandaid.

But since Draconifors ready replied that the leaks are not true, I don't expect them to fix the game.
 
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