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Do you want more RPGs with happy endings?

  • Yes, I miss happy endings.

    Votes: 502 42.0%
  • No, I am content with the endings currently offered.

    Votes: 122 10.2%
  • I think that the option should be available for those who want it.

    Votes: 353 29.6%
  • It’s more complicated than that.

    Votes: 217 18.2%

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Barsenthor

Barsenthor

Senior user
#12,581
Jan 7, 2021
Willowhugger said:
Uh, yeah, of course they killed him to make room for Johnny. It's a major motivation for V that they've just lost their best friend and now have a new one that they may want to die for.

Transference.
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I didn’t pay 50€ for making my own headcanons.
Tho at least this is where game do this right, gives you option to says fuck you, hear him mumbling and you can says fuck you one more time.
Arasaka ending is really rewarding :)
 
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SaulTuk

SaulTuk

Senior user
#12,582
Jan 7, 2021
Willowhugger said:
Mr. Studd and Midnight Lady
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Hwat?...
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onosendai7 said:
Well, they do :
- citizen crouch or run away
- police spawn around you and shoot at you
See ? Police and citizen react differently... :)
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Teleport is expensive tech, far above regular citizen's wallet)
 
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Willowhugger

Willowhugger

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#12,583
Jan 7, 2021
Barsenthor said:
I didn’t pay 50€ for making my own headcanons.
Tho at least this is where game do this right, gives you option to says fuck you, hear him mumbling and you can says fuck you one more time.
Arasaka ending is really rewarding :)
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Headcanon is getting weirdly tossed around. In this case, it's called ROLEPLAYING.

Headcanon is saying Johnny loves you.

Roleplaying is saying your character loves Johnny.
 
onosendai7

onosendai7

Senior user
#12,584
Jan 7, 2021
Willowhugger said:
I dunno, 40 hours is a pretty good payoff for 60 dollars.
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Are you kidding ?
This is thievery...
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SaulTuk said:
People will not protest about lame endings if people don't play the game).
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Yep.
That's the point.
Also shows that the game sucks.
 
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SaulTuk

SaulTuk

Senior user
#12,585
Jan 7, 2021
onosendai7 said:
Are you kidding ?
This is thievery...
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I pre-ordered this game for 15 bucks
 
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Willowhugger

Willowhugger

Forum veteran
#12,586
Jan 7, 2021
onosendai7 said:
Are you kidding ?
This is thievery...
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Uh. No.

I think 12 hours is a pretty decent time for a single player game and 40 is a good open world RPG ala Dragon Age: Origins.

I think Witcher 2 was the best game I ever played in terms of length.
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SaulTuk said:
Hwat?...
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V: [Mr. Studd] I can go all night long, baby.

Female reaction:

1. Oooo, show me baby!

2. I only fuck naturals, borg!

3. Did they, uh, have to remove it?
 
onosendai7

onosendai7

Senior user
#12,587
Jan 7, 2021
SaulTuk said:
I pre-ordered this game for 15 bucks
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It is not worth much more.
 
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SaulTuk

SaulTuk

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#12,588
Jan 7, 2021
onosendai7 said:
It is not worth much more.
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Yes, it's not the case of some ambitious project of small team of underdogs, like Kingdom Come.
 
Nocturnal2077

Nocturnal2077

Fresh user
#12,589
Jan 7, 2021
worldcompany said:
All the seven ends are really dark and sad. Like really. we need a happy ending.


Edit: What do you think of the alternative endings, all of them are sad, and from what I see that people want at least one a happy one, atleast like a Top secret-Easter Egg, at least to achieve it with legendary clothes and level 50, or at least in extreme hard mode. What would be the best idea to fit?
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Would need to be based on background? In all endings, V gets same choice to return to his body at decision point to split with Johnny. But won't die as result.

The Star achievement/Nomad ending: Since V and Johnny are both nomads, the suicide ending is the most logical. The happy ending was V choosing to enter the well to return to his body and earth. Then V gets the selfish choice to make his mark on Night City (via an ascension to the Palace) . Or take the noble route. Leave Night City as a complete unknown the way he came in. Leave with Panem and join his Nomad family. Ride out of Night City never to return. Ride into the Badlands as credits roll. Where he and Panem will spend their lives knocking each other up creating a Brady Bunch. And so will live happily ever after. Very boring but the predictable establishment airy fairy fantasy ending.

The Sun achievement/Street Kid ending: V and Rogue storm Arasaka but Rogue doesn't die. V doesn't die as result of Johnny/Relic as before. If V stumbles across a top secret tech blueprint for a super advanced construct (location which is randomly spawned during the Arisaka raid) then he'll get another special dialog option at the raid end. But only if his relationship with Johnny is high enough (as in the vanilla suicide ending). While deciding whether to cross the bridge or enter the well, Alt Cunningham makes an appearance. She tells V she sensed a unique AI presence in the cyber net within his possession. V tells her about the construct blueprint he found in the raid. Cunningham tells V this construct is the only prototype of its kind in the world. It was being researched by Saburo shortly before his death, in order to prolong his life indefinitely (without further need of other hosts). This was Saburo's plan for the next evolution of the after life as a fail safe for Mikoshi. So it could literally reverse the process of death. Because the person's mind no longer had a dependency on being stored/captured first by Mikoshi's soul killer program. Additionally, that the construct did not require the subject's original body. It only needed very little genetic material to accomplish the resurrection. If a subject's body no longer existed, then only a few nanograms of the subject's body (ashes, decaying tissue etc) was necessary. The construct had nanite tech that could re-clone necrotized cells into tissue, organs, systems and finally restore the entire subject's original body as a living organism.

V has the option to keep this blueprint when he enters the well and returns to his body. But Cunningham warns him that the end result (after restoring the original subject with the construct) could have unpredictable results. She then vanishes across the bridge before V can ask her to explain what that meant.

When V opts to return to their body, they get a side quest to reunite with Judy/River. They get the option to tell them they want to be with them for good or not. If they choose to be with their romantic interests, V doesn't get the negative option. If V picks NOT to be with Judy/Kerry, then they get a quest to visit his friend the Ripper doc. V tells the ripper doc about the construct and wonders aloud if it could be used to resurrect Jackie. Ripper doc confirms it is possible to return Jackie with the advanced AI construct. But he's reluctant to do it because he really hopes V knows what the hell he's doing. Screen fades to black. Then a cutscene shows V holding the now made construct in one hand. Credits roll as he reaches out to touch Jackie's grave with his other hand. And when he does, screen fades to black with credits still rolling.

The Devil Achievement/Corpo ending: V chooses to support Arasaka. V chooses to sign the contract to return to earth. But must agree to having Arasaka publicizing his death in the raid. So V can never contact or associate with anyone in his former life. V must go into exile from Night City. In the Epilogue part of this Corpo ending, you get a cutscene. Saburo-Yoringbu) is lounging by the pool talking business with an Arasaka associate. A boy is playing beside them on the poolside patio of a luxurious apartment. Saburo-Yoringbu gets up and goes inside for a drink. The boy runs over to the Associate and says "Father, is it really true grandfather is really my Uncle? This stupid kid was bugging me about it at school today. So I had my bodyguard kill him for insulting me...." Then the cutscene music drowns out the man's reply as the credits begin to roll.

So as a reward for his personal sacrifice and selfless service to Arasaka, Saburo gave V his blessing to marry Hanako and join his family. Which was a natural decision, because now Saburo-Yoringbu will be gaining a better son (and future potential heirs he can exploit to farm and implant his construct) for the feckless one he lost. :LOL:

The Temperance achievement/Suicide ending: V agrees to follow Alt Cunningham construct across the bridge and Johnny keeps V's body as before. Except this time, V is instantly transformed into the Merovingian (who's the Architect from The Matrix). V basically becomes the Wizard of Oz in Mikoshi. The ultimate overseer who by default of being plugged into the net, is now irreversibly plugged into Night City via Mikoshi. So he can watch everyone and see/know everything in an instant. Just like the Merovingian. But even in this supreme cybernetic AI form, Mikoshi V lacks the ability to directly communicate with anyone from the afterlife. So his consciousness will never be able to communicate with his loved ones (Panem etc) and friends (Rogue, Ripper doc, etc) ever again.

HOWEVER

Just like the Matrix, the Temperance/suicide ending is the only vanilla/alt ending that leaves the door wide open to further DLC possibilities. As an alt ending, there COULD be a possibility V as the Merovingian, might be able to reach out and impact the lives of Night City denizens in the future. He's technically plugged into the cyber AI net of Night City by default of crossing the bridge. So this would pave the way for future DLC e.g. playing Night City as Rogue/Panem other characters V met in his former life.

But IMO

Very unrealistic expectation IMO. Because that's just the point. This isn't Final Fantasy, Skyrim or any other fantasy RPG trope i.e. typical lowly up and coming PC who is a relative unknown. But is a special being i.e. has been destined by fate to be honed in trial by fire through Mortal Kombat in life. And so must be rewarded for such tribulations in character dev by a peppermint stripped, airy fairy sugar coated ending. Real life humanity is characterized by personal weaknesses. CP 2077 is an extreme manifestation of that.

Unlike precedent fantasy/action RPGs, CP 2077 has distinguished itself on the principle of realism. Cyber punk realm lore and culture is based on realism. Therefore the CP 2077 universe was fundamentally designed to strive for realism i.e. models and imitates real life foibles of humanity.

Because of this, your PC's weakness in the cyber punk universe is super concentrated given the integration of man and IT/machine. Present day characteristics such as empathy and basically humanity itself, has been marginalized (think Royce and the Maelstrom gang here) or completely replaced by (think cyborg Adam Smasher here) non compassionate AI in the 2077 cyber punk universe.

Basically think of what befalls humanity in parallel sci fi universes the likes of The Matrix, Star Trek (The Borg species), and The Terminator. When mankind/humanity is extremely integrated with machines, or completely replaced/governed by machines/ and super intelligent AI. In either case, humans (or what's left of their biological part) have lost their sense of compassion/empathy which is what makes humanity so unique by alt timeline 2077. So it's only logical the endings would be dark.

Spoiler TL DR:
real life is dark as mankind rarely learns from his mistakes. Greed, avarice and the other seven deadly sins tend to outweigh moral scruples. So real life doesn't always have happy endings. The CP 2077 universe is an imiatation of real life, but constructed in a super concentrated form. And made significantly worse due to the integration of man and machine. So the game's endings are as realistic as you should expect.
 
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onosendai7

onosendai7

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#12,590
Jan 7, 2021
Willowhugger said:
Uh. No.
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You should :)

Willowhugger said:
I think 12 hours is a pretty decent time for a single player game and 40 is a good open world RPG ala Dragon Age: Origins.
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Well, I believe we have completely opposite expectations in term of game life span and replayability. Finished DA:O in 62h. That was decent.

Willowhugger said:
I think Witcher 2 was the best game I ever played in terms of length.
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I have more than 300 hours on Skyrim, and 150 on Witcher 3.
 
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Willowhugger

Willowhugger

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#12,591
Jan 7, 2021
onosendai7 said:
I have more than 300 hours on Skyrim, and 150 on Witcher 3.
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Length doesn't equal quality. Better to have a contained well-written experience.

But I liked Skyrim, I admit.
 
Barsenthor

Barsenthor

Senior user
#12,592
Jan 7, 2021
Willowhugger said:
Is it weird I expected the Mr. Studd and Midnight Lady to be actual options?

Maybe grant new dialogue options?

:)
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I dunno, 40 hours is a pretty good payoff for 60 dollars.
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You know when I heard that Ubi set a release date of Valhalla to be around the CP77, I was like “those guys clearly lost their mind”
Now I’m sadly thinking that they just had insider.

Playing Valhalla is fun with freedom to do what you want how you want, MQ that is unintrusive but intriguing, making not so obvious choices during the whole game, pretty good ending as for this game, open and rich world.

If somebody would tell a months ago on this forum or Reddit board that on the platform that the game works best stats after 25 days will like 40h, 17-20% completion rate, 3,8/5 people would called him/her a troll.
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playing this game is also fun but smaller one, and there is always at the back of your head this one thought “if only they finished this game, it’d be a masterpiece”
 
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SaulTuk

Senior user
#12,593
Jan 7, 2021
Willowhugger said:
Uh. No.

I think 12 hours is a pretty decent time for a single player game and 40 is a good open world RPG ala Dragon Age: Origins.

I think Witcher 2 was the best game I ever played in terms of length.
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V: [Mr. Studd] I can go all night long, baby.

Female reaction:

1. Oooo, show me baby!

2. I only fuck naturals, borg!

3. Did they, uh, have to remove it?
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That's not what i meant, but why not, it's fitting in CP77.
 
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Tanad

Tanad

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#12,594
Jan 7, 2021
Willowhugger said:
Is it weird I expected the Mr. Studd and Midnight Lady to be actual options?

Maybe grant new dialogue options?

:)
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I dunno, 40 hours is a pretty good payoff for 60 dollars.
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You must be young. I still remember times when games shorter than 60h were considered bad investments not worth the money.
 
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Willowhugger

Willowhugger

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#12,595
Jan 7, 2021
Tanad said:
You must be young. I still remember times when games shorter than 60h were considered bad investments not worth the money.
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40 and games seem to be getting longer and shallower.
 
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Sphirax

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#12,596
Jan 7, 2021
I think the problem with all the endings being different shades of bad is it makes it feel kinda like replaying is less of a joy. You know it's all going to end in the toilet no l for you no matter what you do so it detracts from the excitement that maybe you can get something better. Kinda reminds me of playing mass effect 3 honestly
 
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onosendai7

onosendai7

Senior user
#12,597
Jan 7, 2021
Nocturnal2077 said:
Spoiler TL DR:
real life is dark as mankind rarely learns from his mistakes. Greed, avarice and the other seven deadly sins tend to outweigh moral scruples. So real life doesn't always have happy endings. The CP 2077 universe is an imiatation of real life, but constructed in a super concentrated form. And made significantly worse due to the integration of man and machine. So the game's endings are as realistic as you should expect.
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No they are not.
They are simply the result of lame writing, cut up contents and irresponsible management.
If we simply follow your reasoning, there is no reason to live because in the end, we all die. So, why bother living ? Why bother struggle for some place under the sun ? Why hope for the best for friends and family ? Why not just simply lie and die ?
Most of the Cyberpunk works have fair endings, if not happy, or at least satisfactory and rewarding for the main character.
You obviously mistake the Cyberpunk view on implants. I will not lecture you about that, there are plenty of pages defining what Cyberpunk is and what is its stance about tech. The only thing I can say is that you're simply wrong. Your judgement is from a morality view (good / evil / where's the spoon ?) when there should be none. Tech is a tool. It has no morality. What is basically about morality are the actions men take. And as such, since none of your action through the game have meaning or impact on the endings, these endings are not the result of your choices but the result of the writing. They do not reflect the world, they reflect the petty storytelling.
 
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SaulTuk

SaulTuk

Senior user
#12,598
Jan 7, 2021
Tanad said:
I still remember times when games shorter than 60h were considered bad investments not worth the money.
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"Back in my days!..."
Ehh, the long gone Golden Age...
 
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andrezzyn

andrezzyn

Forum regular
#12,599
Jan 7, 2021
Okay in the ending with nomad just Female V with Judy and Male V with Panam has a "happy ending" and can stay the remaining 6 months in case you don't find a cure to spend with your Romance.
Male V with Kerry and Female V with River never have a "happy ending".
You make endings where your sexual option makes you have or not an ending with your romance is something very bad.
I saw on youtube what the ending is like with the 4 romances on youtube.
This is one more reason for me to think that they need to continue the story, why you put romances and straight women and gay men can't have a happy romance is something really bad.
 
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Willowhugger

Willowhugger

Forum veteran
#12,600
Jan 7, 2021
andrezzyn said:
This is one more reason for me to think that they need to continue the story, why you put romances and straight women and gay men can't have a happy romance is something really bad.
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They need more romance options because:

1. River becomes an arms dealer as his ending and I'm like, "What?"

2. Kerry is someone no sane person would date unless they had an elaborate plan to marry them then kill them.

Mind you, I hate that you can't seal the deal with Rogue or follow up with Alt Cunningham.

I was really hoping for an Evelyn romance too.
 
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