[Spoiler Alert] About the endings

[Yorjen_1987]

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I feel there's more on the
endings that's been cut out, specially when you go Jhonny or arasaka route, you get some glitches on those ending, that could mean either Jhonny or V is not completely dead, but probably we won't see any update on that part any time soon

 

[KakitaTatsumaru]

If by original, you mean the support, then yes V is dead. But at least for us, we're not mere bodies. Matter of fact, our body is just the life support system for our brain, which in turn is just a blank state programmable machine waiting to be filled with firmware and software.

What matters is the information within. Denying that a copy can't like the original is like saying that you aren't reading what an author wrote because you don't have his manuscript but only a printed book.

Some copying methods are approximations (i.e. lossy algorithms used for transmitting sounds and images using a fraction of the original information) some are deliberate forgeries to generate plausible information where there is none (i.e DLSS upscaling) but there are also 1:1 copying methods.

But a copy is a copy (even if perfect), it is another being as the original, and killing the copy doesn't turn the copy into the original.

What I mean is making a copy is like creating another sentient being, it is not the same as resurrecting the original.

 

[RayBotty]

I do think the game needs a happy ending or two. At least a "life goes on" type of ending. V doesn't have to retire rich or anything, it can just end with a "we survive to fight another day" type of ending.

Living to fight another day would definitely qualify as a happy ending in such a dystopian world, and as far as story conclusions go that was pretty much the best ending I thought we could expect to see. I've had bouts with depression in the past and one of the reasons I play games is to stave off depression, so to find out what all the endings are like has really dampened my motivation to play the game as I fear it may prove to be counterproductive for that purpose. I don't think I'll bother with the main story any more than is necessary to open up the map and just do all the side stuff while ignoring Johnny as much as possible. Hopefully the multiplayer will be to my liking - and less of a downer.

 

[Krul2k]

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My biggest problem was that i presumed to much, far to much. I romanced Judy an during conversation with her she talked about leaving the city which i thought would be great, then i did the questline with the nomads and the conversation came up about joining them an i just put 2 an 2 together an got 5 thinking that would be a nice wee ending, instead i got dumped and threw myself out a airlock rofl, i mean you cannae make this up, oh wait someone did

 

[terrythemerry]

Living to fight another day would definitely qualify as a happy ending in such a dystopian world, and as far as story conclusions go that was pretty much the best ending I thought we could expect to see. I've had bouts with depression in the past and one of the reasons I play games is to stave off depression, so to find out what all the endings are like has really dampened my motivation to play the game as I fear it may prove to be counterproductive for that purpose. I don't think I'll bother with the main story any more than is necessary to open up the map and just do all the side stuff while ignoring Johnny as much as possible. Hopefully the multiplayer will be to my liking - and less of a downer.

Same, yesterday when I posted this was rough. I was in bed all day and skipped lunch & dinner. It feels silly to get triggered by a game, but what can you do with all the existential dread looming around.

 

[IskrasFemme]

i am tired of bad endings, my life is bad already i don't want to feel bad ingame also
and after Red Dead Redemption 2 i am depressed even more.

This industry - of games - has not yet understood this and this is essential. That is why Studios Ghibli made history, their productions are used as references in universities across planet Earth in film / animation schools. They captured the feeling of an era. Cyberpunk has good stories, but closed in ... finished in itself ... I speak of the game. Final Fantasy XV, by far, was not a failure in terms of game and it is a memorable game, with a history of bringing everyone to tears and easy, an exceptional production in all artistic and technical aspects - a unique game and - in my view, historical, but that had a sad ending (I speak of the game and not of the story 'in game'). The producer had to redo the ending, make different versions of the ending to meet the demand for complaints ...

It is not a story that makes an era, but an era that writes history and not as one wishes. Star War is proof of this in the context of the 70s US recession and war.

Want to make your audience happy? Give it life, give it hope, in a context of death.

 

[Krul2k]

Well said Iskras

 

[KakitaTatsumaru]

Let V make choices, and make them matters.

 

[RayBotty]

I saw someone quote CDPR saying "You can't save the world, but you can save yourself" but it turns out you can't even do that. I so badly wanted a deeper romance with Judy but after her and I fucked it was like "well, that's that. I'm your girlfriend now but I won't ever text you Hi again".

I say not enough like RDR2, that guy can do some good and find some meaning in his end, unlike here, where everything is pointless.

They said that "you can't save the world, you can only save yourself" - well no, you can't even do that, it was a lie.

I think I'm done with CDPR, just like with Bethesda.

Yeah, Mike Pondsmith said that, and apparently CDPR set out to make him look like a liar. I too thought of that quote and couldn't help but think of the "So that was a fucking lie" meme.

 

[RayBotty]

Let V make choices, and make them matters.

That's another thing that bothers me about all this. What's the point of giving players all those choices if they ultimately don't matter? This is indeed like ME3 all over again, and it looks like CDPR didn't learn anything from that mess.

 

[Vejsa]

So. I have written about this elsewhere but after playing through every possible ending, torturing myself, I find that it is even more futile than I have the emotional energy to deal with. The only ending that provides me even some hope happiness is the one where you call Panam. I only romanced Judy in my game and to do her dirty like that in the other endings really hurt. I know it's just a character in a video game, but it was delivered so convincingly. Sure, Cyberpunk is a social commentary on an unfair world, but CDPR didn't have to make a decision to shit on us at every turn and leave us feeling sad and unwanting to play the game. I wouldn't have bothered with the romances or side quests if I knew of all this because all the endings just feel the same. Anyway, vent over. Just had to get it all out.

Edit: this was merged against my will into this post, but that's ok with me.

 

[Retro-_-]

I saw someone quote CDPR saying "You can't save the world, but you can save yourself" but it turns out you can't even do that. I so badly wanted a deeper romance with Judy but after her and I fucked it was like "well, that's that. I'm your girlfriend now but I won't ever text you Hi again".

Exact sentiment here. Have become strangely invested in the V/Panam romance and the development of their interactions. Then boom, throw that romance in the trash because the ending pretty much makes it redundant.

Really hope any DLC expands on the established romances like Judy and Panam so they can be enjoyed, instead of spending the whole game nurturing it and then 'night night, V'.

 

[Buckadoz]

Man, I've been really enjoying the gameplay and the story, but being spoiled on the endings just killed my drive to keep progressing. The worst part is it's not clear to me that the story itself even understands that Soulkiller is when V actually dies. Everything that happens after that's a joke that the plot isn't in on.

 

[Adam_McGregor]

I am also dissapointed beacuse it seems there is not even one happy ending where V can live and heal up damage that shard did to him/her.

I mean how can you make 6 endings, not not give even one happy one.... So all endings are meaningless because we either die before last missions, we die during last mission by losing our body or we die few months after winning our body and mind back.

WTF?

Did CDPR have too many razors in office?

The nomad ending is happy, u live, ur gf panem calls her contacts to help you out, then you ride out into the desert with your nomad fam I say that's a happy ending

 

[Vejsa]

The nomad ending is happy, u live, ur gf panem calls her contacts to help you out, then you ride out into the desert with your nomad fam I say that's a happy ending

Though it is still implied you die anyway, only *hoping* to find a cure for it.

 

[Retro-_-]

The nomad ending is happy, u live, ur gf panem calls her contacts to help you out, then you ride out into the desert with your nomad fam I say that's a happy ending

For me personally, that's the ending I want to see expanded upon. Marry Panam and rip up Arizona with wife and the nomads

 

[MeinChurro]

Thing about RDR2 is Arthur knew his condition was incurable, he knew he would die. This realization would change his life, making his last days meaningful, giving him a new perspective on life - what truly mattered. He was also his own man. Arthur chooses of his own volition to have John carry on for him - his brother, and a much better, honorable, likeable character than Johnny. This game lies to you all game, you are trying to save yourself, and the game makes you think you can. There is no accepting this fate like with Arthur, there is no meaning. You get all these cars, all this money, you continue on with romances that will never go anywhere because you are fated to die. Worthless. I've already made my grievances with Johnny clear here. I cannot believe these are the same writers who gave us The Witcher 3 and it's expansions. This is insane to me.

 

[Vejsa]

Thing about RDR2 is Arthur knew his condition was incurable, he knew he would die. This realization would change his life, making his last days meaningful, giving him a new perspective on life - what truly mattered. He was also his own man. Arthur chooses of his own volition to have John carry on for him - his brother, and a much better, honorable, likeable character than Johnny. This game lies to you all game, you are trying to save yourself, and the game makes you think you can. There is no accepting this fate like with Arthur, there is no meaning. You get all these cars, all this money, you continue on with romances that will never go anywhere because you are fated to die. Worthless. I've already made my grievances with Johnny clear here. I cannot believe these are the same writers who gave us The Witcher 3 and it's expansions. This is insane to me.

Exactly this. Even during the ending you're like "I've got the biochip removed. Great!" and then suddenly it's thrust upon you "you're gonna die all of a sudden definitely in the next few months" and completely kills the possibility for any further continuation of V. There is no fucking point to playing as V, we may as well have just played as Silverhand and his exploits in the 2020s.

 

[MeinChurro]

Exactly this. Even during the ending you're like "I've got the biochip removed. Great!" and then suddenly it's thrust upon you "you're gonna die all of a sudden definitely in the next few months" and completely kills the possibility for any further continuation of V. There is no fucking point to playing as V, we may as well have just played as Silverhand and his exploits in the 2020s.

No joke. They pushed Silverhand so hard on us in the story, they might as well have just had us play as him in the 2020s. He even went out with a bang (literally). V goes out depressing as heck no matter what way you look at it. Arthur in comparison dies a redeemed man staring off into the sunrise. With V, "That's it?".

 

[Vejsa]

No joke. They pushed Silverhand so hard on us in the story, they might as well have just had us play as him in the 2020s. He even went out with a bang (literally). V goes out depressing as heck no matter what way you look at it. Arthur in comparison dies a redeemed man staring off into the sunrise. With V, "That's it?".

And then they have the audacity to show us recorded messages from the characters we interacted with in the credits which really got to me because my romance option was like "I'm leaving Night City... Goodbye V" and I was like.. What? Why would you do that to me? Why would you put that character through even more pain too? Everything was good and there was love for us both. But nah, CDPR are like "Cyberpunk genre means everything must go wrong at every turn".

Everything I did and all I got was sadness from this game, and now I don't even wanna play it.