[Spoiler Alert] About the endings

[I_Willenbrock_I]

If magic exist hat would make the game a Fantasy mixup and V should quest for a magic scroll, or even better the holy grail which should be easy to find thanks to Misty's divination powers.

To be fair, Neuromancer (obviously a big inspiration) had lots of voodoo elements.
Granted those voodoo elements were AI that were interpreted by people of karabean descent as classic figures in voodoo.


Btw. I was pretty let down by the fact that we could not delve deeper into that classic rabbit hole. It was hinted but dropped.

 

[i-Czer]

If magic exist hat would make the game a Fantasy mixup and V should quest for a magic scroll, or even better the holy grail which should be easy to find thanks to Misty's divination powers.

If magic existed, the game would be called Shadowrun.

Also, CDPR says they want to regain gamers trust. Does literally NOTHING that gamers ask of them.
Classy.

 

[MandyZGaming]

Tho Hellman is just another Kojima/Death Stranding Easter egg this time with naming the character

or the name of your first gun "Dying (K)Night"

 

[I_Willenbrock_I]

If magic existed, the game would be called Shadowrun.

Also, CDPR says they want to regain gamers trust. Does literally NOTHING that gamers ask of them.
Classy.

Some of the things they pulled off made me want this game to be a sci fantasy story.

 

[taiwanluthiers]

If magic existed, the game would be called Shadowrun.

Also, CDPR says they want to regain gamers trust. Does literally NOTHING that gamers ask of them.
Classy.

If magic existed then V should be called Geralt of Rivia and the game should be called The Witcher 4.

Actually I kinda wished Geralt of Rivia can be gay.

 

[RedSpotSylphina]

SPOILERS. First of all I need endings without any absurd. Let's for example look at the ending where V takes Rogue's place. It's written poorly. V becomes the boss, and the boss's job is to plan and manage, not to take a solo mission job with almost no chances to survive. But somehow V takes this mission and says she/he have nothing to loose anymore, while she/he actually has plenty to loose at this point, especially with successfully completed Judy's and Panam's stories.

 

[Kikinho]

If magic existed then V should be called Geralt of Rivia and the game should be called The Witcher 4.

Actually I kinda wished Geralt of Rivia can be gay.

The writer of the books would go mad if they made Geralt even just bi-curious lmao.

 

[Draconifors]

Sapkowski is not the topic here.

 

[Witzzard]

If magic exist hat would make the game a Fantasy mixup and V should quest for a magic scroll, or even better the holy grail which should be easy to find thanks to Misty's divination powers.

Well they could have gone a funny "Is V actually the whole time in a simulation already?"-route -with the Tarto Cards and other wierdness, but they didn't.

 

[cyths]

Meh, their statements came too late, time for a refund is over . Guess i'll just drop cp77/gog and move on, they had their chance.

 

[EuphoricM]

They really did it.
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The bioware response.

I think most of us didn't think there would be story changes per se, however major expansions will have major story content from what I could gather, content that probably will conclude/expand current story.

I also understand how that's not enough in this case. I myself have PTSD from ME3 endings and the Bioware response, if anything I consider it a worst case scenario. TBF, at this moment any public communication from CDPR is buried in a heap of red tape; kinda feel bad for them. My recommendation: take it with a grain of salt (as you seem to be doing anyway). At this point results are the only thing that will speak for them, I think we agree on this.

I kinda empathize with your frustration. I share it in the sense that, if the game launched in a better state, it would be easier to discuss the themes, progression and details about the endings/story and the like, instead, there are glaring issues that unavoidably permeate every discussion because, in one way or another, they are related to almost every topic of the game.

 

[Simuxas]

We don't need story changes, what we wanted slight alterations to endings. Because now they pretty much proved that those 3 tarot cards in character menu means jack crap.

Which could mean, there will be mostly bug fixes and little content put into. Just cars and maybe new clothing with guns, that is about it.

 

[cannabination]

Yeah, the endings are... disappointing. Like, they're all fine for what they are, but for a game like this I want a legendary ending that opens up a whole prologue chapter where you can rule NC for a while as a major player. Tear down Arasoka and Militech with Rogue and Panam, go after the people puppeting Jefferson Peralez with River, side with Wakako or Padre and instigate a war between the Tyger Claws and Valentinos... I mean, this big ole sandbox has a LOT of toys that we've only begun to play with.

Moreover, the choices are disappointing. I shouldn't need to fulfill special conditions to go at it myself, that doesn't even make sense. You mean to tell me that Johnny can Rambo that but V can't figure out a better play? I could clear Arasoka tower from the building across the street but I can't plan my own op? Why did I cultivate a relationship with all these fixers if I can't bring any of their assets to the table? Idk, from the point of no return onward this game kinda falls off the cliff for me.

Regarding the secret ending, why can I not choose to go with Panam? What a weird railroad.

 

[naddaya]

Moreover, the choices are disappointing. You mean to tell me that Johnny can Rambo that but V can't? I could clear Arasoka tower from the building across the street but I can't plan my own op? Why did I cultivate a relationship with all these fixers if I can't bring any of their assets to the table? Idk, from the point of no return onward this game kinda falls off the cliff for me.

The closest you get to that is the secret ending, V pulls a Rambo on Arasaka. You have to be pretty close to Johnny to unlock it though (I had 70%).

 

[DROZD01]

The closest you get to that is the secret ending, V pulls a Rambo on Arasaka. You have to be pretty close to Johnny to unlock it though (I had 70%).

No need for 70%. The only requirement are the right choices during dialogue with Johnny at the oil fields. It gets you up to 40%, and that's enough. Having 60% without that won't give you the ending.

 

[naddaya]

No need for 70%. The only requirement are the right choices during dialogue with Johnny at the oil fields. It gets you up to 40%, and that's enough. Having 60% without that won't give you the ending.

Right, you need to pick "The guy that saved my life" and some other lines in Chippin' In. The thing is, V needs to trust him and give him control at least once in the Afterlife to unlock that quest.

 

[Boselli555]

The Nomad ending is by far the one that gives more hope. Maybe V, alongside with Panam will find someone to cure him, who knows.

The Arasaka ending where V gives his/her mind to the corporation is also a ending that gives hope for V to appear in a sequel. Maybe they will find him a new body.

The other endings are all too sad and dark for me. The suicide ending actually made me cry.

 

[I_Willenbrock_I]

The Nomad ending is by far the one that gives more hope. Maybe V, alongside with Panam will find someone to cure him, who knows.

The Arasaka ending where V gives his/her mind to the corporation is also a ending that gives hope for V to appear in a sequel. Maybe they will find him a new body.

The other endings are all too sad and dark for me. The suicide ending actually made me cry.

Oh the endings made me cry as well. But for other reasons.

 

[Eritros]

I just realised a thing, maybe it has already been pointed out, but in the E3 2018 demo when we connect do Sandra there's no virus.

In the final release CDPR writers decided to include it, so it has to have a very important meaning to the changed history.
As I've said before, I think that virus is us, the player, a rogue AI who got hold of a body, which could explain why the engram wasn't able to overwrite V in the moment he/she got killed (as Hellman expected it would do); the AI, us as players were fighting it.

That could also explain why in the Arasaka ending Hanako agrees to us entering the Mikoshi; Arasaka gets to controll a powerfull AI.

What do you think guys?

 

[DROZD01]

Personally, i prefer the "Don't Fear The Ripper" ending out of all these dissapointing ones. At least we do not sacrifice anyone else, because the raid didn't change shit anyway. Giving body to Johnny was kinda "obvious" decision at this point, at least something will be left of Vi after that, not some stupid walking corpse with an expiration date of 6 months. I kinda hope there will be an option to play as Johnny-Vi after the endings, whether those will be changed or will have continuation.