He talks about joining up with trauma team so it looks like he's running the same service old Delamain did
hey what do you think about temperance after completing zen master sidequest
he said that two souls belongs to v
and misty opened card of death that means rebirth
a doll from clouds tell about it
if u open quest description u can find line about that js feel that v is still here
alt also said that she couldn't clear engrams completely
it's just broken 4th wall?
so vague so open
he said that two souls belongs to v
and misty opened card of death that means rebirth
a doll from clouds tell about it
if u open quest description u can find line about that js feel that v is still here
alt also said that she couldn't clear engrams completely
it's just broken 4th wall?
so vague so open
The implication, which is reinforced by dialogue with Hellman in the motel, is that Johnny isn't a conscious being separate from V, but one half of V's split personality as a result of the biochip's nanites carving in their white and gray matter. So when V and Johnny are talking to each other, it's really V talking to themselves.
Yes, V is reborn as Johnny Silverhand. To clarify: the person in the Temperance ending is V with Johnny's memories and personality, not Johnny's consciousness in V's body.
Are you referring to their description of death as a form of change?
That's because they are. Just how Alt couldn't completely remove all the parts of Johnny from V's engram, she also couldn't remove all the parts of V from Johnny's engram. So V and Johnny form a kind of yin and yang duality.
Exactly.
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absolutely agree.
anyway, no blaze of glory, in the words of this bastard Dex DeShawn.
However, never forget; the friendship between V and Johnny is tracked, and that; throughout the game with a hidden stat.
was that suppose to do anything? aside from dialogue changes that is. it really did not affect the final outcome yes?
unbelievable did cdpr not learn from Mass Effect 3's ending? i mean ME3 among several others should have served as guidelines on how to NOT do XYZ?
don't worry, anyway I don't like the proposed endings. I do, like all of you, with it.
there was something else to think about but most important, depending on the storyline of the game; a sacrifice was inevitable.
CP-2077 is not a fairy tale.
There's supposed to be a Delamain epilogue...? I didn't get one. Then again, Judy's epilogue in the Arakasa return-to-Earth ending is obviously wrong, as are Misty's and others (i.e. talking as if V had stayed on Mikoshi) and there are quite a number of bugs and inconsistencies with the endings in general, so I guess I shouldn't be too surprised. Shame they messed up though. I mean presuming they didn't deliberately go all Mass Effect 3 on us.
If you pick The Sun ending (either through Path of Glory or the secret ending), Delamain is driving the AV outside V's mansion:
- Default Delamain
- Excelsior/Junior
The dialogue is slightly different if you shot the core/merged the AIs or reset it, but in all cases it implies that Delamain (whatever version) is still running the taxi service even though Excelsior and Junior are only V's driver after the Don't Lose Your Mind Mission, and Excelsior is particularly clueless (video).
It made me think my version was bugged but it wasn't, I just expected a bigger difference in the outcomes since old Delamain and the new kids seemed to have very different personalities.
Apparently you don't actually need to bother with that. The only requirement to unlock the secret ending is to pick the correct dialogue choice(s) when visiting Johnny's alleged grave.
i think delamain was bored in cyberspace and decided to return or mb he run away from alt
but he still should have another voice of course
it looks like they just forgot to change it
Okay, so I was wrong, Junior is not Excelsior in the AV.
After you you make the calls in the space station, there's a montage of V doing tests for days, or maybe even weeks, so it's not wrong at all. A lot of people gloss over that and say that Judy's message is inconsistent, which I don't think it is.
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I dunno, that doesn't really make sense to me; a few days or even weeks still wouldn't explain that complete about-turn with Judy. That's a matter of opinion, of course, but there's also other people talking to V as if she decided not to return to Earth so something is up with it.
Ah yes this is the one that I got. It's been a while so I didn't remember the exact dialogue, but Excelsior sounds a lot more upbeat than Junior. Still running the taxi service though ("If you would believe my customers..").
Yeah, they could've definitely made new messages instead of reusing the other ones. But also, we don't know the exact time gap between the epilogue and the voice messages, so that's something to think about as well.
That's true; that said, I played the other Arasaka ending just now, the "stay on Mikoshi" one (I made a permanent save just before Goro arrives) and the messages left for V in the epilogue are exactly the same. They actually make much more sense in this context (including Judy's; especially hers, perhaps) in contrast to the "return to Earth" ending where they really don't make any sense at all. I can understand Judy's response in this case: V isn't coming back, maybe not even in her lifetime. Vik and Misty (and perhaps Mamá Welles) directly refer to V still being in space regardless of the choice you make, so I'm confident the epilogue for turning down Hanako's offer is simply the wrong one. I dunno if there's another ending buried in the assets, but even if it's not there it doesn't mean it shouldn't be...
the messages, are just messages that are on Vs phone, they aren't all from the same exact time. You can see this in certain endings where some of the messages are happening while V is actually with the character at the time of recording. Basically you can think of it as the saved messages on Vs phone. some are from a week ago, some are yesterday, some maybe a month ago.
Also, Judy is not patient. She is also prone to feel like V isn't serious easily. In the sun ending Judy decides to leave V rather than stay with them for a few more months. If V doesn't give Judy exactly what she needs, Judy ends the relationship. She doesn't even present the possibility of continuing the relationship later. When V leaves she has been in recovery for more than a month, and thats apparently too long for Judy, Maybe she actually just wants to avoid seeing V die, who knows, but she ain't sticking around unless you go on the road with her.
they never tell you specifically how long it is, but people who datamined it see that the VA files are labeled by how many days V is in recovery. You can probably count the cube cuts.
