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(Spoiler) How Saskia can be...

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ziguehart

Rookie
#1
Jan 13, 2014
(Spoiler) How Saskia can be...

How Saskia can be poisoned if she is a dragon? In the journal entry the say the following: ''Dragons are immune to poisons, unworried by oils which increase bleeding, and unaffected by traps or bombs.''

Can someone explain this to me?
 
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Maerd.298

Forum veteran
#2
Jan 13, 2014
Simple: a plot hole/description bug :)
 
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CostinRaz

Banned
#3
Jan 13, 2014
Because she was in human form, and thus is affected by anything that could affect a regular human, at least to a degree.

Also she directly ingested the poison, as opposed to being cut a poisoned blade.
 
Shavod

Shavod

Wordrunner
#4
Jan 13, 2014
Well, the dragoness (Saskia's mother) in Sword of Destiny also get poisoned. I think you can explain that by saying that they used some really strong poison, that normally would kill a regular human being, and her immunity has it's limit.
 
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ziguehart

Rookie
#5
Jan 13, 2014
About the human form, in chapter III after she is impaled by that tree trunk, she says she heals fast...and for god sake she had her heart impaled D:
 
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Maerd.298

Forum veteran
#6
Jan 13, 2014
Ziguehart said:
About the human form, in chapter III after she is impaled by that tree trunk, she says she heals fast...and for god sake she had her heart impaled D:
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Yeah, that was really stupid design decision. First time I even killed her thinking I'm doing her a favor to end the pointless suffering being impaled by the tree in the heart. :) I totally didn't expected her to make it after that.

Probably, by design the devs positioned her to die anyway and then changed their mind but decided to keep the original animation.
 
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Whetmore

Forum regular
#7
Jan 13, 2014
I don't know when it is explained, but I'm almost sure that this thing is explained...
Someone says that if not for being a dragon, she would have died (maybe Filippa?)
 
Bellator Pius Gratus

Bellator Pius Gratus

Forum veteran
#8
Jan 13, 2014
Maerd said:
Yeah, that was really stupid design decision. First time I even killed her thinking I'm doing her a favor to end the pointless suffering being impaled by the tree in the heart. :)/>/> I totally didn't expected her to make it after that.

Probably, by design the devs positioned her to die anyway and then changed their mind but decided to keep the original animation.
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I actually thought long and hard of that decision, even if I knew what kind of Geralt I was playing as. And I left her there(with her I mean Saesenthessis, I had at the time no idea she was Saskia) fully knowing that I was sparing her and that she was to live, and that the choice wasn't between her suffering to death or ending that suffering yourself. Sure enough, she flew away. Geralt later states to Triss that he doesn't kill dragons, ergo he knew, or at least had a hunch, that she would survive.
 
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SystemShock7

Senior user
#9
Jan 13, 2014
Ziguehart said:
How Saskia can be poisoned if she is a dragon? In the journal entry the say the following: ''Dragons are immune to poisons, unworried by oils which increase bleeding, and unaffected by traps or bombs.''

Can someone explain this to me?
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It doesn't say they are immune to magic potions. They are not immune to magic.
 
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val.mitev

Senior user
#10
Jan 13, 2014
Ziguehart said:
About the human form, in chapter III after she is impaled by that tree trunk, she says she heals fast...and for god sake she had her heart impaled D:
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How do you know where a dragons' heart is? It's pure speculation based on human anatomy, is could easily be somewhere else.

As for the poison, it was created with magic, so it's no ordinary poison. And dragons, for all their might, can still be killed.

As far as dragons go, I want to see the gold dragon from the books in the game. He was pretty awesome. :)
 
A

avydia1.388

Rookie
#11
Jan 13, 2014
Because the poison was magical, made by a powerful sorceress.
 
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ziguehart

Rookie
#12
Jan 13, 2014
Sorry, i don't remember they say the magepain think is a magical poison anywhere in the game. And who created that think, if a i remember Stennis and his priest poison her.
 
Shavod

Shavod

Wordrunner
#13
Jan 13, 2014
Ziguehart@

Some priests in The Witcher world also know how to use magic.

Also it's strongly impied that Philippa may had something to do with it.
 
B

Blothulfur

Mentor
#14
Jan 13, 2014
Personally I think she would have recovered given time, but Philippa when she discovered her secret froze her in stasis and sought for a means of control, ergo Geralt and the Aen Seidhe searching for a Rose of Rememberance.
 
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vivaxardas2015

Rookie
#15
Jan 13, 2014
As I understand it, dragons can't be killed by using poisoned blades (they are resistant), but if they ingest large quantities of poison, they die. It was how peasants hunted them. The same happened with Saskia - she drank it. Contrary to some other things, it is not a plot-hole.
 
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secondchildren

Forum veteran
#16
Jan 14, 2014
I actually never meant that Philippa's mixture was a "poison". It was a magic potion to control her mind, not meant to poison Saskia and kill her.
 
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vivaxardas2015

Rookie
#17
Jan 14, 2014
secondchildren said:
I actually never meant that Philippa's mixture was a "poison". It was a magic potion to control her mind, not meant to poison Saskia and kill her.
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Actually, it was an antidote + mind-control potion. Poison was what Saskia drank during the War Council. Who exactly was behind the poisoning is something we can argue for quite some time. :) Or is it so obvious that it was Philipa who orchestrated Saskia's poisoning by manipulation Olcan and Stennis?
 
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