I'd argue that, profession wise, yes they are.
It's just such a person would be dead within a few weeks and most Witchers would consider it highly offensive.
It's just such a person would be dead within a few weeks and most Witchers would consider it highly offensive.
Agreed!
Witchers are created to deal w/ monster at any cause.
People who come posting on forums etc are like tiny minority of fans. Hard to base what "mainstream" wants by polls on reddit or here, you can get some idea of things, but context is important too. Us fans (who vote on polls) are gonna buy the game regardless of protagonist, its the gamers in general who "matter" in this regard, especially those who haven't played the games yet. And you can't really think that throughout these threads that's the only argument worth talking about whether Ciri is likely to be a protagonist in future or whether it would make sense or should happen. Gerald01, inanimate_object have made better arguments than I in this regard.
I understand why people "like" ciri or would like to play her, but that's about it. Think CDPR would need to twist ass-backwards to make that happen, rather than natural and logical transition that they always intended to have (which they didn't almost certainly).
Monster Hunter is already under copyright. Also Witchers do more than just kill monsters.
There's also this conversation regarding whether Geralt can give it up.
Dandilion crossed his legs and examined his worn sole with interest. “You remind me, Geralt, of an old fisherman who, toward the end of his life, discovers that fish stink and the breeze from the sea makes your bones ache. Be consistent. Talking and regretting won't get you anywhere. If I were to find that the demand for poetry had come to an end, I’d hang up my lute and become a gardener. I’d grow roses.”
“Nonsense. You're not capable of giving it up.”
“Well,” agreed the poet, still staring at his sole, “maybe not. But our professions differ somewhat. The demand for poetry and the sound of lute strings will never decline. It's worse with your trade. You witchers, after all, deprive yourselves of work, slowly but surely. The better and the more conscientiously you work, the less work there is for you. After all, your goal is a world without monsters, a world which is peaceful and safe. A world where witchers are unnecessary. A paradox, isn't it?”
“True.”
“In the past, when unicorns still existed, there was quite a large group of girls who took care of their virtue in order to be able to hunt them. Do you remember? And the ratcatchers with pipes? Everybody was fighting over their services. But they were finished off by alchemists and their effective poisons and then domesticated ferrets and weasels. The little animals were cheaper, nicer and didn't guzzle so much beer. Notice the analogy?”
“I do.”
“So use other people's experiences. The unicorn virgins, when they lost their jobs, immediately popped their cherry. Some, eager to make up for the years of sacrifice, became famous far and wide for their technique and zeal. The ratcatchers…Well, you'd better not copy them, because they, to a man, took to drink and went to the dogs. Well, now it looks as if the time's come for witchers."
During my conversation with Triss, Geralt also has the option of saying, "Can I still be a Witcher in Kovir?"
You can also say you'll give up being a Witcher and be a normal person.
Dandilion crossed his legs and examined his worn sole with interest. “You remind me, Geralt, of an old fisherman who, toward the end of his life, discovers that fish stink and the breeze from the sea makes your bones ache. Be consistent. Talking and regretting won't get you anywhere. If I were to find that the demand for poetry had come to an end, I’d hang up my lute and become a gardener. I’d grow roses.”
“Nonsense. You're not capable of giving it up.”
“Well,” agreed the poet, still staring at his sole, “maybe not. But our professions differ somewhat. The demand for poetry and the sound of lute strings will never decline. It's worse with your trade. You witchers, after all, deprive yourselves of work, slowly but surely. The better and the more conscientiously you work, the less work there is for you. After all, your goal is a world without monsters, a world which is peaceful and safe. A world where witchers are unnecessary. A paradox, isn't it?”
“True.”
“In the past, when unicorns still existed, there was quite a large group of girls who took care of their virtue in order to be able to hunt them. Do you remember? And the ratcatchers with pipes? Everybody was fighting over their services. But they were finished off by alchemists and their effective poisons and then domesticated ferrets and weasels. The little animals were cheaper, nicer and didn't guzzle so much beer. Notice the analogy?”
“I do.”
“So use other people's experiences. The unicorn virgins, when they lost their jobs, immediately popped their cherry. Some, eager to make up for the years of sacrifice, became famous far and wide for their technique and zeal. The ratcatchers…Well, you'd better not copy them, because they, to a man, took to drink and went to the dogs. Well, now it looks as if the time's come for witchers."
During my conversation with Triss, Geralt also has the option of saying, "Can I still be a Witcher in Kovir?"
You can also say you'll give up being a Witcher and be a normal person.
Really are you even nuking this lore or just wanted to win an argument that is not debatable??
Crinfrid Reavers are not even the best monster slayer in the lore at all. There expertise is dealing dragon even doing there profession they suck compared to a Witcher who is knowledgeable w/ monster.
Just look what happen to Skellige warriors trying to kill Morvak the immortal werewolf in the game. Yes they could catch him, kill him and chain him but only Geralt knows how to deal a monster like him.
How about Menge?? Menge knows the lore about Doppler and how to deal w/ them but can he catch a doppler quite efficiently like Geralt.
You're the ones arguing the only thing defining a witcher is monster hunting professionally. Not me.
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You are quite confused and arguing against your own position.
Eh, thanks for discussing the issue. I've said my position and you remain unconvinced.
Time to move on!
Time to move on!
Dude i think you never know why are Witchers created. They are created to deal w/ monster and as a Witcher they are quite knowledge w/ dealing monster and performing ceremonies about monster.
Ciri is quite capable enough.
Ciri is quite capable enough.
So, would you want the Empress ending to be canon for a Ciri game w/ a focus on politics or a Witcher Ciri ending?
Yes. It's as if "Witcher" is a multifaceted word containing different shades of meaning.(!)
Has a specific definition though, inclusive and exclusive.
For a Witcher giving up or "stop being one" means giving up monster hunting in this case. It has nothing do do with his status as a being.
Like the witcher assassin guy you meet in Novigrad who's now leading a normal life.
While the opposite is not true.
Someone cannot become a witcher by picking up professional monster hunting as a job, simply.
And before any more confusion, it was you who said that the professional activity of monster hunting, was the defining characteristic of a Witcher.
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I think you're making a huge mess of things. As I initially said, IF YOUR CRITERIA FOR A WITCHER is being "capable monster hunter" then anyone could do it if capable enough. By.. definition. You now want to add knowledge about monsters to that?
Ok so Ciri is a witcher because she's "capable enough". What about a Sorcerer? What about Avallach? Imlerith? A Crone?
What about a the guy who slained 3 actual witchers and carried around his medallions? He had the capability obviously. So let's say he studies all witchers' bestiaries and whatnot.
Would he be a witcher?
You understand why this is ridicolous right?
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I don't think anyone "should" want any ending to be canon. People ought to want all endings to be canon, and don't go reminding me "but they already did that with TW2 and TW3!" - not entirely and that doesn't mean its right nor that they should keep doing that in the future. Making decisions of previous games irrelevant or meaningless is one of the bigger criticisms. Hence that's not something people should support, like some do - "Make my ending canon, cuz its the beeest!"
@Gerald01 Just watch this link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJ8fRMLqdN8
There mutant abilities and alchemy only enhance them how to deal a monster.
The guy who slain witcher can he perform any monster ceremonies at all?? Anyone could kill a witcher but it is quite extraordinary. That guy is the mortal enemy of Ciri. Even Geralt almost died w/ peasant's pitchfork. Also not most sorcerer in the lore knows how to deal a monster. Crone also need Geralt to deal w/ Tree spirit even the Crone are monster. Imlerith and Avallach are different dimension elves.
There mutant abilities and alchemy only enhance them how to deal a monster.
The guy who slain witcher can he perform any monster ceremonies at all?? Anyone could kill a witcher but it is quite extraordinary. That guy is the mortal enemy of Ciri. Even Geralt almost died w/ peasant's pitchfork. Also not most sorcerer in the lore knows how to deal a monster. Crone also need Geralt to deal w/ Tree spirit even the Crone are monster. Imlerith and Avallach are different dimension elves.
You make a good point. I just checked out Twitter though, which is as close to the typical casuals as you can get, and it's the same thing there pretty much. Ciri game or being able to customize your own Witcher. I'd take Ciri over a blank slate any day though. Not that I think W4 or Witcher spinoff is happening anytime soon mind you. I'm all ready for PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY.
Ciri is a breakout character from this game. I wonder if CD_Projekt Red ever expected her to be this popular.
Is that your source for the definition of Witcher? Merciful Allgod, not even the Wiki?
Could you please care to follow through with a logical thought for a second... just to understand how nonsensical your ephemeral definition is.
What if the entities/people I mentioned were to LEARN the bestiary and rituals and whatnot, then begin to do contracts, would they be witchers?
If your conclusion is YES, you have a problem, try to figure out WHY:
If your conclusion is NO, then it must mean your definition sucks Mahakaman genitals, and needs to be revised.
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I'd wager she wouldn't be popular at all if she wasn't aesthetically pleasing.
I noticed a lot of people here are the product of Bioware's recent school of "rpg"
Here's the problem with that though: Eventually the narrative collapses under the weight of your choices. You can't have the games diverge too much, else you have to make two different games for two different endings. TW2 had two divergent Act 2's but even that led to the same place, and most of the choices on the Iorveth path were rendered null by the Nilfgaardian invasion. Bioware is ironically perhaps the best at carrying your choices from game to game, but we all know that even they will render your choices meaningless if they must.
I chose to enjoy and explore the choices within the game rather than hold unrealistic expectations about CDPR carrying them forward. I would like Witcher Ciri to be canon, but I'm not going to drop the series if CDPR uses Empress instead.
Probably not, though that's not exactly a major issue either. Alistair is the breakout character of Dragon Age: Origins because of his female fanbase.Gerald01 said:
Ditto Garrus, which was surprising but people just LOVED his voice.
Hence why he's a romance option in Mass Effect 3.
Both Final Fantasy and Bioware/Obsidian both have marketed characters based on attractiveness (Carth Onasi, Bastila, Handmaiden, Vissa Marr, Atton Rand)--pretty much always trying to make romances which will be popular with major characters. Sephiroth, one of the most famous villains of all time, is only that way because so many fangirls wanted to bone him.
Most famous Skyrim character? Lydia. Why? Male gamers wanted her.
Thankfully, they haven't QUITE hocked Ciri's sexuality the same way they did with Triss.
Especially given she's a survivor of sexual abuse.
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Most people seem to like her due to her and Geralt's interactions being the best in the series. Quite a few were uncomfortable with how you could see her bra in her default outfit, and would prefer she had amour like Geralt. Not saying everyone, but she seems more popular due to her status as surrogate daughter than as eye candy. IMO anyway.
Really :troll:??
CD Project Red created this video not a fan made video. Also Wiki is not site that can be trust due it could edited by anyone w/ Wiki account.
Personally your just creating a very stupid argument
Seriously freaking Witchers are created to deal w/ monster. If you wanted to create a fan fiction lore about Witcher go for it.:huh:In your previous post your it seems your telling me Crones, Avallach and Wild Hunt are also monster slayer. Really
Also going overboard w/ petty insult:rly?:
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