[SPOILERS] End-Game And Suspicions About The First DLC

[Aetrion]

For me personally the endings give me very little hope that there will be a DLC that actually allows you to find a cure for your condition because the endings are all too drastically different, with some leaving you without a body at all.

Also, what about the fact that the space suit seems to malfunction in the Crystal Palace ending? As far as I can tell it's implied that you never even make it on board.

 

[Solidus2kill]

For me personally the endings give me very little hope that there will be a DLC that actually allows you to find a cure for your condition because the endings are all too drastically different, with some leaving you without a body at all.

Also, what about the fact that the space suit seems to malfunction in the Crystal Palace ending? As far as I can tell it's implied that you never even make it on board.

oh my god, the ending have only two outcomes:

1) Arasaka > heist
2) Fixer V > heist

3) panam > ?

the suicide ending is a meme.

In the end, did you read the email in the computer in the V' s mansion? who's mr B (yes he is mr blue eyes ok but)? c'mon guys this a dlc material

 

[Blaz1us]

Ineed, get the idea of them completely 'dropping' 77 after February out from your head , this was confirmed in the emergency meeting call ( https://www.cdprojekt.com/en/wp-content/uploads-en/2020/12/call-transcript_en.pdf , here it is if you wanna read it ).

 

[Aetrion]

oh my god, the ending have only two outcomes:

1) Arasaka > heist
2) Fixer V > heist

3) panam > ?

the suicide ending is a meme.

So anyone who chooses to become a digital construct just doesn't get DLC because you think people putting their faith in technology to live on is a meme ending? Ok then.

 

[JubJub154]

The only two outcomes with Mr Blue Eyes is this. We either get a post game DLC with him as the main focus OR This was set up for another future title. Making a whole entire game based around 1 heist again seems repetitive. That's literally what the whole game of 2077 is based on. Another game just doesnt make sense. The story would be almost the same and as this. So its overwhelmingly likely that we receive a DLC for blue eyes. It ties together the main endings of the game and it just makes sense from a story perspective. Adding mid game story, that will expand on the map just doesn't make sense at all.

On a side note thank you Blaz1us for providing us with the Transcript it answers a couple questions that have been brought up here. They plan on supporting the game for about the next 3 years. Per the transcript on CDPR's website provided by Blaz1us: "thinking forward to your additional content that you’re planning to launch over the next 2-3 years – how do you feel about your ability to release a couple of DLCs next year, and, obviously, multiplayer in 2022?" Which now gives us an ETA on when MP is expected. Which they also go on to state "we don’t know yet, and we’re now focused on improving Cyberpunk. We’ll discuss this early next year. " So as expected DLC might take a while to be announced and also as I had mentioned in a prior post we likely wont be getting an update for a couple months. If they plan on supporting a game like this for 2-3 years I cant see them being able to co-develop a whole entire second game on the side. They got patches coming out, DLC in the works, and eventually a multiplayer. Where could they ever get the recourses to create a second game? They really cant afford the first game just came out and on top of that it was rushed to release. This doesn't give any indication of a second game happening any time soon, nor does it even come close to pointing towards development of another title.

 

[Solidus2kill]

Lmao guys the MP will be released AT LEAST in 2023, Before they have to repair the actual state of the game and give us the cut content

 

[JubJub154]

Lmao guys the MP will be released AT LEAST in 2023, Before they have to repair the actual state of the game and give us the cut content

Agreed, Tbh I wish they'd just forget multiplayer.

 

[poldengonyboy]

the post story dlcs are a thing, they're not impossibile 'cause the game has too many plotholes and every endings sounds like a new lifepath for new content.

Why spent more than 100+ hours into a character and then piss it off?

the people who want a dlc only for panam/judy etc are really pissing me off now, every content in which we will see our romance will be side content and V is still the "incomplete" main character.

The Heist part should let us intend that a post story is a thing and seems like many of you never played CDpr games in the past. The game in this actual state makes no sense, pre ending content make no sense for the logic of the story. So let's wait and stop this "I want panam as main character" 'cause this is a fucking rpg not a life sim or an ass simulator

Chill fam, I don't think anybody is asking for a DLC that only focuses on Panam or Judy ahhaha. It's just that they're the most popular characters right now and people want more of them and want them to be included in the story of the expansions. They don't want the expansions to come out and everything to be said and done and all we have is the vanilla content with the two of them.

As for everyone who is worried about CDPR abandoning the game and just going straight to the second one. It's not gonna happen so don't worry. The fact is, a lot of people are going to pay for DLC with this game regardless of how it launched or even what state it's in when the DLC comes out. CDPR knows this, and it's happened with games like Fallout 76 as well. It takes too much $$$ to make a game like this, even if it was trash (which it's not) they would still try and milk every dollar out of it that they could before they moved onto the next title. DLC and especially multiplayer will be delayed, but we will be good, we will get our expansions and a bunch of new free content alongside of it!

 

[Solidus2kill]

Chill fam, I don't think anybody is asking for a DLC that only focuses on Panam or Judy ahhaha. It's just that they're the most popular characters right now and people want more of them and want them to be included in the story of the expansions. They don't want the expansions to come out and everything to be said and done and all we have is the vanilla content with the two of them.

As for everyone who is worried about CDPR abandoning the game and just going straight to the second one. It's not gonna happen so don't worry. The fact is, a lot of people are going to pay for DLC with this game regardless of how it launched or even what state it's in when the DLC comes out. CDPR knows this, and it's happened with games like Fallout 76 as well. It takes too much $$$ to make a game like this, even if it was trash (which it's not) they would still try and milk every dollar out of it that they could before they moved onto the next title. DLC and especially multiplayer will be delayed, but we will be good, we will get our expansions and a bunch of new free content alongside of it!

Indeed! I strongly agree

(they don't want abandon it)

 

[sinkiy]

Hey so I'm new to these forums and I don't know exactly if this is the right place to post this, but if it is I really want to hear all you thoughts on this, and any insights you might have!

So to start this off, this has heavy spoilers about multiple endings and romance options.

With that being said I have a couple what I think are pretty reasonable assumptions about what the first or at least one of the major expansion pack DLC's will be about. I know the game has only been out for 4 days so I recognize that there's no way to truly know, but based on some foreshadowing in the story and even some little easter eggs I think I have an Idea.

So I think one of the major DLC's will be about trying to save V's life again a second time. Once you finish the game, if you decide to let V live and let Johnny go with Alt, you learn that you only have 6 months to live. This happens regardless of who you decide to complete the last quest with. As long as you don't give the body to Johnny, Kill yourself, or Sell your soul you are stuck w 6 months left to live. We know that V obviously doesn't care when people tell them they're as good as dead, they've cheated death more than once at this point.

Now the reasons why I feel so strongly that this will be the DLC is because of a few subtle and maybe not so subtle hints the game gives you throughout, and especially near/at the end of the game.

Number 1. The ending with Panam and the Nomads. Whether you romance her or if you're a female and romance judy, you leave night city to go to Tucson, Arizona with the nomads. If you romanced Judy you bring her along with you. If you romanced Panam you just leave with her. (IDK about River and Kerry yet). In one of the last dialogue options you say to Panam you are going to figure out how to cure your sickness, and she says that the Aldecaldo's have people in Arizona that have helped their folks out of deep cesspits. Implying that you will be able to indeed find someone out there who can help you out. Obviously this could just be a little glimmer of hope for the player so that they can Imagine that their V doesn't actually die, But I'm gonna get to why I think it's more than that in a sec. Also before you get back in your body, Johnny tells you "Never stop fighting!" Meaning don't just lay down and die after 6 months, try to find a new cure.

Number 2. The ending with Johnny, where you take back your body from Johnny. Personally I took this path the first time, and having romanced Panam, you find her in the shower of your mansion that you now have. Again with 6 months left to live, She's mad that you're not coming with her to Arizona. Anyways y'all get into a little argument, and again there's an option where you can say that this is not the last time you will see each other. Also If you romanced River or Kerry, they show up in the mansion with you before you go to "Crystal Palace". Not sure about Judy on this one.

Finally Number 3. A bit less direct imo but it also still teases us that there will be post end game content in the DLC regarding this new health condition, and also maybe alluding that it will be in Arizona and have a lot to do with Panam and the Nomads. When you finish the game with the Nomads, at the very last scene before you drive off in the tank, you can pick up a whole legendary set-piece of armour in one of the lockers. The thing is, you can't even equip it, because the action is blocked at that point. Idk if it's just a bug at this point, but I don't really think it is, because why would they give you 3 amazing legendary tier pieces of armour right before the literal end of the game?

Another thing that is convincing is if you ever try to drive out of the map, in the badlands it says something like "Turn back, this area is not available... Yet..." Which obviously is pretty heavy foreshadowing that we will get an expansion outside of night city in the future.

The final piece of evidence is kind of small, but it's during Panam's last side quest. Right before you leave her at the new camp, you can say "Too bad this is our last time together" and she responds with, "who say's it has to be our last?". Again idk if this is alluding to the final mission with her, or if it's just some filler line, but after seeing all of this other evidence I feel like it might be a bit more than that.

Anyways, that's all I really got for now. Hope it wasn't too long. Let me know what your thoughts are, if you guys have anymore supporting my theory or evidence that this is absolutely not the case and I'm an idiot lol. I personally hope this is the case and I hope we go to Arizona with Panam, because I'm deeply in love with her and I feel as though we did not get enough content with her and our other romance options like Judy (Who would also be coming with us to Arizona if you romanced her). Only way I see this idea for the DLC being messed up is if you Sold your soul to Arisaka, or if you gave the body back to Johnny. But even with Johnny's story he leaves night city on a bus to who knows where.

TLDR: First or At least one of the major expansions is going to be about us trying to save our own lives again after the main game ending, by going to Arizona and looking for someone who has a cure with the Aldecaldos'.

Judging from the pathetic length of the main story I promise you they are sitting on DLCs right now. They had to have chopped the main story up you can litteraly tell from the pacing it's been cut up. Way way too short for all the hype it created. They already have the DLCs made I bet because they probably ripped it out the main story.

 

[Luks796]

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So its overwhelmingly likely that we receive a DLC for blue eyes. It ties together the main endings of the game and it just makes sense from a story perspective.

I like this one + all major side missions (such as relationships).

 

[chadesh]

That is the biggest plot-hole of this game!

The whole point about you dying in 6 months feels so shoe-horned and contrived that it becomes ridiculous. The plot has to go out of its way to pull out some contrived bullshit reason you have to die -- "no compatible phenotype" etc..

Hello? Didn't we have Johnny in our heads for the whole story and his chip was perfectly fine with changing you for Johnny?
V and Johnny are different beasts entirely so don't give me this shit about types not being compatible and that it wouldn't work.

Furthermore Relic's are becoming advertised as something that is possible and from what we see in the game it is, so why wouldn't it work for V makes zero sense.

It's just set up so you have to get a sad ending because "it's cyberpunk" but it really feels convoluted for the sake of having a sad ending.

I do not mind sad endings but this does not feel earned.

actually it was mentioned during the arasakas ending when you talking to hellman there is an dialogue choice to ask hellman about that very thing. I believe he says it is possible if you have a genetic match. A child, brother, sister, but since V doesnt have either well DOA

 

[stndn]

it's obvious we will have two big expansions with new stories and expanded romances.

But we will be certanly V, they literally said that Cyberpunk 2077 will be treated like The witcher 3

V is the perfect "Player's avatar" to tell new stories about cyberpunk world, the "six months" is a placeholder for a dlcs and the endings have the same outcome (except the panam ending): the heist. So? did you really play the game or have only take panam ass pics?

I think the Panam ending can somehow be incorporated into the Night City Legend ending with Mr Blue Eyes. Maybe they meet a contact in Tuscon who leads them to the Crystal Palace or something.

The suicide ending is the only one that's a deadend.


Here's a quote from the other thread:
The 6 months endings could all lead to the same result:

1. The space heist. You do a small mission, in exchange, Mr.Blue Eyes tells you where you can find a cure
2. Nomad. You meet Panams contacts, they tell you where to find a cure.
3. Arasaka and back to earth. You meet someone else (maybe Mr. Blue Eyes), who tells you where to find a cure.

All 3 branches would be one again.

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Also I think people are sleeping on the potential of the Aldecaldos and their connections, or even what's out there beyond NC. It's more than just Panam's booty.

 

[DRaptor-1]

actually it was mentioned during the arasakas ending when you talking to hellman there is an dialogue choice to ask hellman about that very thing. I believe he says it is possible if you have a genetic match. A child, brother, sister, but since V doesnt have either well DOA

He said that with the DNA is sure that it works, but this doesnt mean that you must have same dna to let it work. Infact as he said, johnny was able to overwrite our person and we dont have same Dna. So why the opposite shouldnt work? We are always the same 2 persons that before were compatible. Why not now?

 

[chadesh]

heh I got both panam and judy with me for my last 6mo

 

[DRaptor-1]

I think the Panam ending can somehow be incorporated into the Night City Legend ending with Mr Blue Eyes. Maybe they meet a contact in Tuscon who leads them to the Crystal Palace or something.

The suicide ending is the only one that's a deadend.


Here's a quote from the other thread:
The 6 months endings could all lead to the same result:

1. The space heist. You do a small mission, in exchange, Mr.Blue Eyes tells you where you can find a cure
2. Nomad. You meet Panams contacts, they tell you where to find a cure.
3. Arasaka and back to earth. You meet someone else (maybe Mr. Blue Eyes), who tells you where to find a cure.

All 3 branches would be one again.

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Also I think people are sleeping on the potential of the Aldecaldos and their connections, or even what's out there beyond NC. It's more than just Panam's booty.

Well, panam booty is always important

Anyways yes, i think people understimate aldecaldos potential and the potential of the badlands. If is not NC doesnt mean that we cant find nothing there. I actually think we have more probability to find a cure outside of NC that at NC

 

[chadesh]

He said that with the DNA is sure that it works, but this doesnt mean that you must have same dna to let it work. Infact as he said, johnny was able to overwrite our person and we dont have same Dna. So why the opposite shouldnt work? We are always the same 2 persons that before were compatible. Why not now?

The relic V has jammed in his/her head is a prototype( is broken kinda) and is lets say a different version and more invasive. Also the only reason the relic with johnny on it is activated was because V was mostly dead, but not completely dead and the chip started fixing the damage, but it was rewriting everything for the construct which was johnny.

The current gen needs a genetic marker that is of V. So no incompatibility if you remember when alt is explaining things she also mentions that V's construct isn't compatible with his/hers own body, because the chip has rewrote it for johnny.
which is why V has only 6 months left. It's kind a like when you get a new kidney or heart. Your body will always see the new organ as a invading body and as such will continually try to get rid of it. which apparently these chips will actually kill the body.

It's the same reason Hananko ask that you make sure Yorinobu lives and if he doesnt then the deals off. Yorinobu was going to be used as his fathers vessel. genetic match.

 

[DRaptor-1]

The relic V has jammed in his/her head is a prototype( is broken kinda) and is lets say a different version and more invasive. Also the only reason the relic with johnny on it is activated was because V was mostly dead, but not completely dead and the chip started fixing the damage, but it was rewriting everything for the construct which was johnny.

The current gen needs a genetic marker that is of V. So no incompatibility if you remember when alt is explaining things she also mentions that V's construct isn't compatible with his/hers own body, because the chip has rewrote it for johnny.
which is why V has only 6 months left. It's kind a like when you get a new kidney or heart. Your body will always see the new organ as a invading body and as such will continually try to get rid of it. which apparently these chips will actually kill the body.

It's the same reason Hananko ask that you make sure Yorinobu lives and if he doesnt then the deals off. Yorinobu was going to be used as his fathers vessel. genetic match.

Yes exactly. Relic was rewriting our body with johnny construct also if Alt said we are not compatible. So why we cant do the same? V was almost dead or dead when nanites started to rebuid and rewrite us with johnny, but V still had the same dna, a bullet in the head doesnt change dna. So if this is the solution, johnny can just shot his self while he has our chip in his head and nanites will rewrite us again, also if we are incompatible. Is the same thing but in reverse. We overwrite johnny instead of him. But no, alt says is not possible (never trusted alt anyways. I have an idea of her intentions tho). For this i say it is a Bs, and incoherent

 

[chadesh]

Yes exactly. Relic was rewriting our body with johnny construct also if Alt said we are not compatible. So why we cant do the same? V was almost dead or dead when nanites started to rebuid and rewrite us with johnny, but V still had the same dna, a bullet in the head doesnt change dna. So if this is the solution, johnny can just shot his self while he has our chip in his head and nanites will rewrite us again, also if we are incompatible. Is the same thing but in reverse. We overwrite johnny instead of him. But no, alt says is not possible (never trusted alt anyways. I have an idea of her intentions tho). For this i say it is a Bs, and incoherent

I guess you could look at it like this. V and johnny were different file system. The relic rewrote V's files system to match johnnys. Unfortunately the original chip(the relic) was damage and couldnt be let say reformated, So V was copied to a broken drive and unsupported file system and said file system saw V as a virus .
Now if V was copied to a new version of the (relic) chip then yes she could be put into another body that matched her dna which apparently is a requirement of the new chips.
I would have to re watch the cut screen of how hellman explains it.

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@DRaptor-1

where hellman explains the reason 3:55

 

[DRaptor-1]

I guess you could look at it like this. V and johnny were different file system. The relic rewrote V's files system to match johnnys. Unfortunately the original chip(the relic) was damage and couldnt be let say reformated, So V was copied to a broken drive and unsupported file system and said file system saw V as a virus .
Now if V was copied to a new version of the (relic) chip then yes she could be put into another body that matched her dna which apparently is a requirement of the new chips.
I would have to re watch the cut screen of how hellman explains it.

Ooh well, i restarted the game to play again panam quests and im following the AV right now, so im near to hear it again

But maybe later, is night here and gonna sleep, maybe tomorrow i can say something more specifically

Well, goodnight, have a nice day